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Imminent and severe market correction

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No, markets are forward 'hoping' at best in this climate - we are supposed to be smack bang in the middle of a 'second half recovery', yet US foreclosures have hit yet another record the last month, and if the beer and skittles mob can recall all of 2 years back, this is what started the whole thing off in the first place.
Forward 'expecting' more like it. Both up and down. Second half recovery by whose accounts? Are we in the middle of the 'second half recover?' Once again, maybe the records are factored in. Foreclosures at a record what?
 
Forward 'expecting' more like it. Both up and down. Second half recovery by whose accounts? Are we in the middle of the 'second half recover?' Once again, maybe the records are factored in. Foreclosures at a record what?

'Expecting' based on the probability that things can't get any more worse, which is not yet certain, so they hope & pray :D

Um....house mortgage foreclosure in the US......the highest it's ever been ie a record?

Every second story on Marketwatch or Bloomberg or ??? quote some analyst or economist who is predicting recovery. For some reason they all seem to have selected this half of the year for the recovery, but a nagging little thing called the real economy keeps getting in the way? Do a Google for "second half recovery"
 
'Expecting' based on the probability that things can't get any more worse, which is not yet certain, so they hope & pray :D

Um....house mortgage foreclosure in the US......the highest it's ever been ie a record?

Every second story on Marketwatch or Bloomberg or ??? quote some analyst or economist who is predicting recovery. For some reason they all seem to have selected this half of the year for the recovery, but a nagging little thing called the real economy keeps getting in the way? Do a Google for "second half recovery"

Damn Green Shoots.

Unca ObamaSan needs a good dose of Rudds Red Roots!!!

:D
 
This thread is most probably redundant. It seems those who are convinced of "imminent and severe" are conservatives who can't get their arms around the notion that the "left" in the form of China, Obama and Rudd are steering us through the crisis created by the privileged (and often clueless) of this world. What's more these interlopers are spending our hard earned taxes, goddam it.

Unless China/Asia fall over, another 9/11 event or along those lines, we won't see the ASX at 3900 again. So hop on board fellas or wait for a few hundred of points rest at some time, but imminent and severe ain't going to happen.

Comprehensive economic policies with some debt when it is needed (get over it, won't kill us) will also fix some schools, hospitals and those things the conservatives couldn't give a rat's **** about. It's win win guys :):)
 
This thread is most probably redundant. It seems those who are convinced of "imminent and severe" are conservatives who can't get their arms around the notion that the "left" in the form of China, Obama and Rudd are steering us through the crisis created by the privileged (and often clueless) of this world. What's more these interlopers are spending our hard earned taxes, goddam it.

Unless China/Asia fall over, another 9/11 event or along those lines, we won't see the ASX at 3900 again. So hop on board fellas or wait for a few hundred of points rest at some time, but imminent and severe ain't going to happen.

Comprehensive economic policies with some debt when it is needed (get over it, won't kill us) will also fix some schools, hospitals and those things the conservatives couldn't give a rat's **** about. It's win win guys :):)

Aha...obviously a young'n of a socialist persuasion soon to be lining up at the nearest soup kitchen.:):)

Cheers
 
This thread is most probably redundant. It seems those who are convinced of "imminent and severe" are conservatives who can't get their arms around the notion that the "left" in the form of China, Obama and Rudd are steering us through the crisis created by the privileged (and often clueless) of this world. What's more these interlopers are spending our hard earned taxes, goddam it.

Unless China/Asia fall over, another 9/11 event or along those lines, we won't see the ASX at 3900 again. So hop on board fellas or wait for a few hundred of points rest at some time, but imminent and severe ain't going to happen.

Comprehensive economic policies with some debt when it is needed (get over it, won't kill us) will also fix some schools, hospitals and those things the conservatives couldn't give a rat's **** about. It's win win guys :):)



Hahahaha
I laughed so hard reading your post beer came out my nose!!! Hahahaha.
Thanks, I was having a down night but the combination of beer and your post has shocked me out of it!!
Best of Luck

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This thread is most probably redundant. It seems those who are convinced of "imminent and severe" are conservatives who can't get their arms around the notion that the "left" in the form of China, Obama and Rudd are steering us through the crisis created by the privileged (and often clueless) of this world. What's more these interlopers are spending our hard earned taxes, goddam it.

Unless China/Asia fall over, another 9/11 event or along those lines, we won't see the ASX at 3900 again. So hop on board fellas or wait for a few hundred of points rest at some time, but imminent and severe ain't going to happen.

Comprehensive economic policies with some debt when it is needed (get over it, won't kill us) will also fix some schools, hospitals and those things the conservatives couldn't give a rat's **** about. It's win win guys :):)

The only thing I can't get my arms around is the Fat Debt Lady (Mrs Creosote ?)
Look into the data from China - made to order to what ever the Central Committee require?

Some debt - please sir, can I have some more??
 

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Note, most debt occurred during supposedly conservative reigns of Republicans. Obama is between a rock and a hard place. I think what he is doing is good and will allow the debt to be reduced over the medium term.
 
How will he/they do that :confused:

Raise taxes!! Won't be popular such as the medicare levy that we have.
There is plenty of wealth in the US. Firstly he has to kickstart the economy.

Bush lowered taxes and raised spending.

I would expect Obama to raise taxes and lower spending eventually by getting out of all the wars they are engaged in and reduce defence spending. The old different priorities routine.

If you look at the budget in relation to defence spending it is astounding the USA can afford it. Just shows what a superpower they are.
 
(apologies for adding to the bear pr0n)
but Mr Black Swan say Obama taknig wrong way

http://www.businessinsider.com/henry-blodget-taleb-you-fools-dont-understand-that-were-doomed-2009-8

Bear pr0n - conjures up an interesting image ;)

Taleb summary(from link)
  • We're all in denial
  • We're replacing private debt with public debt.
  • We're not dealing with the cancer in our banking system.
  • We're not making the structural changes we need to make.
  • We're not being aggressive enough about restructuring debt (debt for equity swaps).
  • Bernanke is a wimpy Greenspan sycophant
  • Obama's rewarding the fools who got us here (Summers, Bernanke, Geithner)
  • The banksters are taking over again
Other vid opinion

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/32385463#32385463
 
Bear pr0n - conjures up an interesting image ;)

oo-er don't want to go there! :)

this bearish f-undie stuff makes for a great story, but as Ivant knows you can't trade off it, gotta respect the market and wait for signals

Of which McHugh today reckons the markets are lining up a batch of Hindenburg's for us, but likely not till later in the year
 
this bearish f-undie stuff makes for a great story, but as Ivant knows you can't trade off it, gotta respect the market and wait for signals

Agree.... best to trade what is in front of you. But because I have a bearish outlook, people seem to think I can only trade in one direction:rolleyes:

I also agree with a lot of what UF is saying about the debt.

On taxes:eek:

Washington (CNSNews.com) – Americans had to work from January 1 until August 12 this year just to cover the cost of government. That is 26 days more than they had to work last year to cover the cost of government.

“Cost of Government Day” this year fell on Wednesday, August 12, according to Americans for Tax Reform, the conservative group that calculates when the day occurs. Cost of Government Day is the day in the year when the American people have earned enough income to pay the total cost of the spending and regulatory burden imposed by government at the federal, state, and local level.

The August 12 date is 26 days later than Cost of Government Day came last year, when it fell on July 16.

In fact, this is the first time the day has fallen in August. Until this year, July 20 was the latest date marking Cost of Government Day. That happened in 1982.
 
China Stocks Enter Bear Market as Index Falls 20% From High

"China follows Russia among the so-called BRIC bloc of major emerging economies to have entered bear markets."


Didn't I hear the BRIC economies were going to get us all out of this mess?:eek:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=auVL4UJfdoJU

Well, SHOOT!

GREEN shoots, that is!!

Pardon my inane ignorance, but IF the *world* is relying on China to help pull its head out of its :arsch: , why the response of "No Big Deal" when the 2nd Shock Wave from a recent Chinese Market Quake appears to be breaking over us?

Oh yeah. Everyone is sipping their dailly tincture of Obama'sGreenShoots & Rudd'sRedRoots?

Anyone care to explain what is happening to the CSI300 (volumes tanking, values tanking)?

IF markets are forward looking (as we are told by experts), then surely, what is happening in China NOW is going to flow through into the REAL economy within 6mths?

Man, I am so dumb. Enlighten me....
 

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