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Those who could afford a ticket would have been on a boat out; those who stay are too poor or have too much to gain and have a boat waiting for them if it all goes to heck.Yeah they could catch a boat to USA
They weren't leaving because of war, they left because of hunger, and traditionally (like the Scots) Celts are historically a wandering race who like to think they have a monopoly on the spiritual and drink. 1919 for formal independence...... still a pagan 3rd world country within a sea of industrial might.
London is only now reaching the level of population when the Blitz was on (8.6 m) ... that's a lot of country estates and bunkers that never existed to fulfill your argument luutzu.
Don't think that DNA only exists in English blood though. All race and culture could point to certain time in their "glorious" history when they butchered and colonised other races and countries. Some more than most of course.Revisionist historians, everyone knows the poms were incapable of retreat back in those days; their dna was 500 years of conquering and fighting the good fights.Anything that kills, kills doesn't matter the means and London was a tinderbox of wood floors and timber trusses.
That may be true. But the Yanks were already drawing up plans for a world where Nazi Germany rule the entirety of Europe and they themselves will have to be satisfy with the Western Hemisphere.The path was that the UK didn't allow it's rule of law be easily given away to vandals of civilisation and they were prepared to be stubborn in the face of an oppressive enemy.
The burden, post war, on us dinky di Aussies having to accommodate the whinging Poms has taken its toll, but we soldier on regardless.
you make you choice fight with IS or any of the glorious freedom fighters supported by the west and its "allies" or you fight with Assad";
in which case your family is in Damascus and you are fighting to protect them and some basic freedom, maybe not democracy but more or less freedom otherwise.
In any case, if you have only so much of pride and courage..as a male between 18 and 40 you are fighting in Syria.
or are these traits linked only to the depraved western culture?
anyway
"War is not glorious or bravery."
Definitively not, it is horror
"Any idiot can pick up a gun and go shoot at something."
but most idiots run away when they realise what war is.
"I don't know about you, but I admire such people more than these empty talks of bravery and courage by killing people or be kill yourself."
I am sad to read this Luutzu, even if not born here, I would fight for the right to live in Australia and protect my family /home here, and yes die for it.
If you can not understand this, you are just a floating self, ready to move on and parasite any place where the grass will be greener. So what if the taxes increases, the RE is too high or low, you move to NZ, US or wherever?
Your family can not be safe if you flee, the Jews leant it in a terrible way in WWII,
it seems the lessons have not been learnt by many when facing the new plague
if you are Syrian and flee, what about uyour uncle, your grandmother, the old aunt?And what about the land, you do not have any attachment to your land?
You do not give a **** because you, and MAYBE your wife and kids are OK?
When a war is over and you have lost, then it is useless to go to slaughter for the sake of it, but right now, the future of Syria/Irak are in the hands of its people (yea yea we can talk about bad evil US etc)
but overall : the choice is theirs and sorry to offend you there, but this is treason to run when you have the choice to fight for the right (in your eyes) cause.
IS would not be where it is now with a bit more spine from the local inhabitants.
Anyway, happy not to have to fight by your side (and happy not to have to fight at all indeed)
Tell you what. When the barbarians are literally at the gates, I'll stand and fight.
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Apologies, this is a very sensitive subject, I have the feeling that a WWII event nowadays would result with a nazi victory with no fight and I personnally see the situation today as as bad.Please accept my apologies Luutzu for the personnal attack.I had to cool down a day before even coming back here.I will abstain to comment on these subject, my view is clear.I will stick to the economics/technical threads.there is no way i can even understand Luutzu nor can he understand me.Qld Frog I think that is a pretty mean post you have made attacking Luutzu thoughts on war and family.
The fighting in Syria is very complex. Who is killing who and for what purpose isn't easily answered.
But the devastation that is being caused to millions of people and their communities are the results and the facts on the ground.
Trying to create something better for your family elsewhere instead of being bombed or starved to death is having a go.
Apologies, this is a very sensitive subject, I have the feeling that a WWII event nowadays would result with a nazi victory with no fight and I personnally see the situation today as as bad.Please accept my apologies Luutzu for the personnal attack.I had to cool down a day before even coming back here.I will abstain to comment on these subject, my view is clear.I will stick to the economics/technical threads.there is no way i can even understand Luutzu nor can he understand me.
I think they are are knocking on it as we argue the toss luutzu. I would suggest this is what qldfrog is trying to point out ... not us as the invaders, but the huge wave of primitive culture that is on the march.
Appeasement has has a long history of failure when it comes to barbarians at the gate.
We seem to be content to reinvent the Sack of Rome in our own western backyards.
Apologies, this is a very sensitive subject, I have the feeling that a WWII event nowadays would result with a nazi victory with no fight and I personnally see the situation today as as bad.Please accept my apologies Luutzu for the personnal attack.I had to cool down a day before even coming back here.I will abstain to comment on these subject, my view is clear.I will stick to the economics/technical threads.there is no way i can even understand Luutzu nor can he understand me.
My missus has just returned from a trip to Europe. The people she spoke to had two basic concerns.
1/ That their magnanimity had been abused.
2/ That they feared an exponential trend of ideology towards neo-naziism.
They felt for the people who wanted to come and be good productive citizens, but were alarmed at the number of villains that come as well. It is negatively impacting their lives, culture and feelings of safety, from BOTH aspects mentioned above.
As I see it there is only one way this will all finish and it's going to be very mucky.
Another mess that Islamic idiots have started and we are now expected to fix.
How are we expected to get children out of Syria when we can't go in there ourselves ?
Islamic State fighter Khaled Sharrouf's wife, Tara Nettleton, dies in Syria
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-11/islamic-state-fighter-khaled-sharrouf's-wife-tara-dies/7158340
Is that one of the kids who was holding a head or was that a photoshop jobbie?
One of these kids was pictured holding a severed head I believe.
Ms Nettleton married Sharrouf when she was 15 and followed her husband, a convicted terrorist, to Syria in 2014, taking their children.
THE heart of the European capital Brussels has been rocked by multiple bomb explosions at its international airport and its underground metro train line close to the European Commission headquarters.
Although reports of casulaties vary, it appears at least 13 people were killed at the airport and another 10 at the metro station. More than 30 people have been reported injured.
The city went into immediate lockdown and its terror alert raised to the maximum “level 4” after the blasts at the transport hubs, causing widespread panic.
Authorities have officially labelled the blasts terror attacks.
There were two apparent large explosions shortly after 8am local time, believed to be carried out by suicide bombers, at a check in desk at Brussels Zaventem Airport, immediately grounding all flights in and out of the air hub and causing panic among the thousands of passengers, many covered in dust and in distress, and running from the scene.
The religion of peace strikes again...
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