Has the 100 year Jihad (war) begun ... ???

[Tisme]

Zeman, a 71-year-old leftwinger and the first-ever directly elected president of the Czech Republic, has repeatedly spoken out against the surge of migrant and refugee arrivals in Europe.

[/B]

This can't be...lefties are the anathema of national pride aren't they?

I wonder if it is all possible for people to have opinions that aren't pigeon holed by lazy journalists into one of two polarised groups.

 

[Tisme]

This 2500 rounds per minute (metal storm can produce 1000000 rounds per minute)

 

[luutzu]

This 2500 rounds per minute (metal storm can produce 1000000 rounds per minute)

Unless the bad guys all lined up, not much use for it. So either 2500 rounds for one or a couple of bad guys or all of it missed the target. Guess they sell the gun cheap but the bullets dear.

 

[DB008]

UK is stuffed, we aren't far behind...

The Jihadist Next Door​

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[DB008]

Sweden, what happened to you?

Refugee centre worker stabbed to death by migrant in Sweden​

Stockholm (AFP) - A young asylum seeker on Monday allegedly stabbed to death an employee at a refugee centre in Sweden as police demanded more resources to stem rising violence linked to the migrant crisis.

Police spokesman Thomas Fuxborg said the assailant was a young man residing at a centre for youngsters aged between 14 and 17 in Molndal near Gothenburg on Sweden's west coast.

He did not give details about the suspect's age or nationality but said he had been arrested for murder. Swedish news agency TT said he was 15 years old.

The victim was a 22-year-old woman, and the motive was not immediately clear.

http://news.yahoo.com/migrant-fatally-stabs-swedish-refugee-centre-worker-police-151706582.html​

 

[SirRumpole]

Sweden, what happened to you?

Refugee centre worker stabbed to death by migrant in Sweden​

http://news.yahoo.com/migrant-fatally-stabs-swedish-refugee-centre-worker-police-151706582.html​

They will never get rid of them.

They're stuffed.

 

[DB008]

Glimmer of hope....

EU migrant crisis: Sweden may reject 80,000 asylum claims​

Sweden may reject the asylum applications of up to 80,000 migrants and should prepare to deport them, the interior minister says.

Anders Ygeman said charter aircraft would be used to deport the migrants but it would take several years.

Some 163,000 migrants applied for asylum in Sweden in 2015, the highest per capita number in Europe.

The numbers have fallen significantly since Sweden imposed tighter border controls this year.

Along with Germany, the Scandinavian country is a prime destination for refugees and other migrants entering the EU illegally.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35425735​

 

[luutzu]

Glimmer of hope....

EU migrant crisis: Sweden may reject 80,000 asylum claims​

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35425735​

Not sure why they don't all stay home in Syria.








Refugee camps in Jordan. Was a desert in 2011, now it's what? 4km by 3km tent city?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-10/inside-zaatari-one-of-worlds-largest-refugee-camps/5506792



Those are the luckier ones.

This boy not so lucky trying to illegally enter Lebanon from Syria.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/middleeast/article4316751.ece


Might want to make inform opinions. Just saying.

 

[Tisme]

Not sure why they don't all stay home in Syria.

Like the poms did in London/England during and after the blitz? Might be a factor of the right stuff, right customs, right beliefs?

 

[SirRumpole]

Like the poms did in London/England during and after the blitz? Might be a factor of the right stuff, right customs, right beliefs?

And the Brits weren't being bombed by their own government.

 

[luutzu]

Like the poms did in London/England during and after the blitz? Might be a factor of the right stuff, right customs, right beliefs?

Character... or maybe being on an island surrounded by seas that's now blockaded mean there's no place to go...

Why are the Irish here is Australia (and other places), not staying around during the Potato Famine? Why are you being part of the empire? I thought Ireland was only freed from the poms not too long ago - a decade?

The Blitz lasted 57 days? During which time the children were sent to the farm, Royalties to their country estates, politicians their bunkers and everyone else will have to make do with shelters everytime the alarm goes on right?

A few more days and England would have collapsed. And that's with dumb bombs, a handful of dive bombers... not the new hardware all the countries of the world (it seem) are using in Syria since 2011 isn't it - for 5 years now?

But let's not go down that path and call those who risk everything to bring their family to safety people of poor character while we rich a holes enjoy our crickets and looking for any excuse to tell them desperate people to scram.

 

[luutzu]

And the Brits weren't being bombed by their own government.

There weren't any civil war in England, ever? I thought civil wars does happen in just about all countries throughout just about all of recorded history.

 

[SirRumpole]

There weren't any civil war in England, ever? I thought civil wars does happen in just about all countries throughout just about all of recorded history.

We were talking about WWII.not ancient history. Anyway , historically, the Brits seemed to stick together and fight back rather than run away.

 

[luutzu]

We were talking about WWII.not ancient history. Anyway , historically, the Brits seemed to stick together and fight back rather than run away.

You can't pick a point in time that favour your argument.

During WW2, England couldn't run away. It's an island. That and the Nazi have their blitzkrieg - the kind of rapid war that allow them to take over most of Europe in a matter of months. Took France in 3 weeks if I remember right.

It probably boggles British planners mind that Hitler could invade England so quickly. Being surrounded and shocked, they have to put up a fight. And if we remember, mother England pretty much abandon all her children to the barbarians while she save herself from the Nazi: Burma, Malaysia, Singapore, Australia and its colonies...

We shouldn't be in a rush to judge people. IF we're in their shoes, what would we do? Would we join the tyrant, or join the terrorists? Would we join at all when our siblings are all dead and only our parents are alive and need our care; would we join the warriors while our children starve? Are we going to stand there with slingshots while the enemy carpet bomb the entire city?

 

[SirRumpole]

You can't pick a point in time that favour your argument.

I'm actually agreeing with you that the Syrians have more reasons to run away that the Brits.

 

[noco]

And thanks to Gillard and Rudd, we now have plenty of jihadists here in Australia...And those who did sneak in via Indonesia have recruited second and third generation Muslims.

Thanks to Tony Abbott, the bad policy laid down by Rudd/Gillard/Rudd was put to rest.

 

[Tisme]

And thanks to Gillard and Rudd, we now have plenty of jihadists here in Australia...And those who did sneak in via Indonesia have recruited second and third generation Muslims.

Thanks to Tony Abbott, the bad policy laid down by Rudd/Gillard/Rudd was put to rest.

You want to study the numbers who are coming in via the migration route Noco?

 

[noco]

You want to study the numbers who are coming in via the migration route Noco?

Do you have some details or a link to what you claim?

I assume you are referring to jihadists.

 

[Tisme]

Character... or maybe being on an island surrounded by seas that's now blockaded mean there's no place to go...

Yeah they could catch a boat to USA

Why are the Irish here is Australia (and other places), not staying around during the Potato Famine? Why are you being part of the empire? I thought Ireland was only freed from the poms not too long ago - a decade?

They weren't leaving because of war, they left because of hunger, and traditionally (like the Scots) Celts are historically a wandering race who like to think they have a monopoly on the spiritual and drink. 1919 for formal independence...... still a pagan 3rd world country within a sea of industrial might.

The Blitz lasted 57 days? During which time the children were sent to the farm, Royalties to their country estates, politicians their bunkers and everyone else will have to make do with shelters everytime the alarm goes on right?

London is only now reaching the level of population when the Blitz was on (8.6 m) ... that's a lot of country estates and bunkers that never existed to fulfill your argument luutzu.

A few more days and England would have collapsed. And that's with dumb bombs, a handful of dive bombers... not the new hardware all the countries of the world (it seem) are using in Syria since 2011 isn't it - for 5 years now?

Revisionist historians, everyone knows the poms were incapable of retreat back in those days; their dna was 500 years of conquering and fighting the good fights.Anything that kills, kills doesn't matter the means and London was a tinderbox of wood floors and timber trusses.

But let's not go down that path and call those who risk everything to bring their family to safety people of poor character while we rich a holes enjoy our crickets and looking for any excuse to tell them desperate people to scram.

The path was that the UK didn't allow it's rule of law be easily given away to vandals of civilisation and they were prepared to be stubborn in the face of an oppressive enemy.

The burden, post war, on us dinky di Aussies having to accommodate the whinging Poms has taken its toll, but we soldier on regardless.

 

[qldfrog]

And the Brits weren't being bombed by their own government.

you make you choice fight with IS or any of the glorious freedom fighters supported by the west and its "allies" or you fight with Assad";
in which case your family is in Damascus and you are fighting to protect them and some basic freedom, maybe not democracy but more or less freedom otherwise.
In any case, if you have only so much of pride and courage..as a male between 18 and 40 you are fighting in Syria.
or are these traits linked only to the depraved western culture?
anyway