Basilio when so many condone Jihad via their silence, vis a vis unwillingness to condemn the violence of the Jihadists, the whole community, bar a few individuals, remain suspect. That is the pragmatic truth.
Go for it folks. You want a war. Just keep accusing a quarter of the worlds population of being in the thrall of fanatics who want to rule the world in their image.
That of course is completely different to how the US behaves isn't it ? Democrat, rational, fair, liberal, and they never blast the bejesus out of people "they think might be threat at sometime in the future". Pre emptive warfare I believe it is called.
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Ffs basilio. Is it possible for you to intellectually venture beyond the narrow blinkered binary world in which you live?
Regarding with suspicion does not mean - yeah let's nuke the bastids, then we'll invade and bayonet their charred corpses and driver wooden stakes through their hearts.
It means - let's see some evidence that the greater number of you are not in thrall to extremists. Some have done so explicitly, but not many. It means, we want to trust you but need you to show trustworthiness.
Just like in the climate debate where you see all except those who agree with your extreme Apocalyptic view as deniers.
For Goodness sake man, try debating with some maturity!
Ffs basilio. Is it possible for you to intellectually venture beyond the narrow blinkered binary world in which you live?
Regarding with suspicion does not mean - yeah let's nuke the bastids, then we'll invade and bayonet their charred corpses and driver wooden stakes through their hearts.
It means - let's see some evidence that the greater number of you are not in thrall to extremists. Some have done so explicitly, but not many. It means, we want to trust you but need you to show trustworthiness.
Just like in the climate debate where you see all except those who agree with your extreme Apocalyptic view as deniers.
For Goodness sake man, try debating with some maturity!
I suspect the USA, GB and Israel are absent at the moment while they build their respective arsenals in readiness. I also suspect it won't only be the ISIS dudes who get the treatment, but other pests who think they still have the clout they did in the cold war.
There's not much of an image mod to imagine Slim Pickens replaced by Donald Trump ... they look the same to the casual eye.
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I thought them three are in the thick of it?
Does weapons have an expiry date?
Daniel Defoes solution to the Irish problem.
Is there a new Middle East war brewing ?
Iran v Iraq killed a million +, this one looks definitely one for us to stay out of.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-04/saudi-arabia-severs-ties-with-iran/7065624
The Yanks and the Aussies should never have been involved in the first place......They should have stayed in their own backyards 20 years ago....You don't see any involvement of the Chinese or the Japanese in the middle east.
It is all about Muslims fighting Muslims.....let them cut each others throats metaphorically speaking.
As Tony Abbott said about Syria, it is baddies fighting baddies
The USA tried to force democracy on the middle east and democracy just does not work.....They only know one thing and that is dictatorship.......They should have left Bin Laden, Colonel Gadaffi and Hussein in charge of their appropriate countries.
The USA tried to force democracy on the middle east and democracy just does not work.....They only know one thing and that is dictatorship.......They should have left Bin Laden, Colonel Gadaffi and Hussein in charge of their appropriate countries.
It would also if if the US, Russia and China were not as greedy for the money from arms sales to the tinpot dictators and didn't sell them any weapons.
There are no words to add to this, but Churchill saw it coming. Read his ending comment.
IRAN 1970
IRAN 2012
AFGHANISTAN
EGYPT (Cairo University) 1959
EGYPT (Cairo University) 2012
NETHERLANDS (Amsterdam) 1980
NETHERLANDS (Amsterdam) 2012
And some people still do not see a reason to worry!
Winston Churchill 1899. "Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world."
This is amazing. Even more amazing is that this hasn't been published long before now.
CHURCHILL ON ISLAM Unbelievable, but the speech below was written in 1899.
The attached short speech from Winston Churchill, was delivered by him in 1899 when he was a young soldier and journalist. It probably sets out the current views of many, but expresses in the wonderful Churchillian turn of phrase and use of the English language, of which he was a past master.
Sir Winston Churchill was, without doubt, one of the greatest men of the late 19th and 20th centuries. He was a brave young soldier, a brilliant journalist, an extraordinary politician and statesman, a great war leader and British Prime Minister, to whom the Western world must be forever in his debt.
He was a prophet in his own time. He died on 24th January 1965, at the grand old age of 90 and, after a lifetime of service to his country, was accorded a State funeral.
HERE IS THE SPEECH
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.
The effects are apparent in many countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture,sluggish methods of commerce and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity.
The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinctionof slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.
No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.
Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."
Sir Winston Churchill; (Source: The River War, first edition, Vol II, pages 248-250 London)
Churchill saw it coming.
The Islamic State group on Thursday claimed responsibility for deadly shootings and suicide bombings that have rocked the Indonesian capital.
In a statement published online, the jihadist group said that a number of bombs “detonated at the same time as attacks from four soldiers of the caliphate… with light weapons and suicide belts.”
The statement said the attacks targeted a gathering of citizens from the “Crusader coalition,” referring to the US-led alliance of countries combatting IS in Iraq and Syria.
Five extremists launched Thursday’s assault in the heart of the Indonesian capital, apparently copying the Paris attacks as they detonated explosives and shot at people in a district packed with malls, embassies and United Nations offices.
Police declared the attack over after several hours, and said no more assailants were on the loose.
The Czech President, Milos Zeman, calls the illegal immigrants into Europe as an invasion...I referred to it on several occasions over the past 6 or 7 years as infiltration.......It has been an organized plot to take over Europe and the rest of the world.
Thanks to Tony Abbott for putting and end to the disastrous Australian Labor Party policy of open borders.......If it had been allowed to continue, we could have found ourselves in the same situation now being experienced in Europe.
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A recent report by Oxfam, An Economy for the 1%, has found that in 2015, just 62 individuals had the same wealth as 3.6 billion people.
The wealth of these 62 people has risen by 44% in the five years since 2010, at an increase of $542 billion, to $1.76 trillion. Meanwhile, the wealth of the bottom half fell by just over a trillion dollars in the same period -– a drop of 41%.
This elite group of wealthy individuals has also fallen from 388 people to 62 in just five years.
Australia hasn’t escaped this trend. Here, the richest 10% of people own more wealth than all other Australians combined, and our richest individual has the same amount of wealth as the poorest 10% of Australians.
“The big winners in our global economy are those at the top. Our economic system is heavily skewed in their favour. Far from trickling down, income and wealth are instead being sucked upwards at an alarming rate,” the report says....
Sorry to disappoint you noco but this is what "modern" warefare and invasion looks like:
REPORT: 62 people have the same wealth as the poorest half of the world
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/report-62-people-have-the-same-wealth-as-the-poorest-half-of-the-world-2016-1
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See, you get friendly politicians who know ecnomics to lower interest rates to zero or even below zero.
That mean it costs the big guys almost nothing to "borrow" people's money and buy stuff and pay for that political influence.
Those savers and small little plebs who put savings into banks instead of under the mattress saw their cash being used and they got jack for it. Well, they will have their company taken over and their job made redundant.
As they say, it's always the quiet one.
What has all your BS got to do with the Muslim Invasion into Europe?:topic
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