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Well worth a read.

Subject: Fwd: FW: A German's view----Interesting
A German's view,


Please take a moment of your time and read this article. A German's
View on Islam - worth reading. This is by far the best explanation of
the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read. His
references to past history are accurate and clear. Not long, easy to
understand, and well worth the read.
The author of this email is Dr. Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and
well-respected psychiatrist.


A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to orld War II, owned
a number of large industries and
estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer
he gave an guide our attitude toward fanaticism. 'Very few people
were
true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and
many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought
the Nazis were bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let
it all happen. Then,
before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of
the world had come.’ ‘My family lost everything. I ended up in a
concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.


‘We are told again and again by 'experts'
and 'talking heads' that Islam is a religion of peace and that the
vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this
unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is
meaningless fluff meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow
diminish the spectre of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the
name of Islam.’


‘The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at
this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the
fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the
fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups
throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an
Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honour-kill.
It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the
fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims
and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and
to become suicide bombers.’


The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent
majority,' is cowed and extraneous. Communist Russia was comprised of
Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists
were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The
peaceful majority were irrelevant. China's huge
population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a
staggering 70 million people.’


‘The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a
warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way
across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the
systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by
sword, shovel, and bayonet. And who can forget Rwanda, which
collapsed
into butchery? Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans
were 'peace loving'?


‘History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all
our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated
of points: peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their
silence. Peace-loving Muslims will become our
enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany,
they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the
end of their world will have begun.’


‘Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs,
Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many
others have died because the peaceful majority did not
speak up until it was too late.’


‘Now Islamic prayers have been introduced in Toronto and other public
schools in Ontario, and, yes,
in Ottawa too, while
,
the Lord's Prayer was removed (due to being so offensive?). The
Islamic way may be peaceful for the time being in our country until
the fanatics move in.’


‘In Australia, and indeed in many countries around the world, many of
the most commonly consumed food items have the halal emblem on them.
Just look at the back of some of the most popular chocolate bars, and
at other food items in your local supermarket. Food on aircraft
have the halal emblem just to appease the privileged minority who are
now rapidly expanding within the nation's shores.’


‘In the U.K, the Muslim communities refuse to integrate and there are
now dozens of "no-go" zones within major
cities across the country that the police force dare not intrude
upon. Sharia law prevails there, because the Muslim community in
those areas refuse to acknowledge British law.’


‘As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only
group that counts - the fanatics who
threaten our way of life.’


Lastly, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious , is contributing
to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand.


Extend yourself a bit and send this on. Let us hope that thousands
world-wide read this, think about it, and send it on before it's too
late, and we are silenced because we were silent!!!
 
Noco do you ever, ever choose to check the credibility of the stuff you post on these forums?

Again the post you just put up allegedly coming from "Dr. Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and
well-respected psychiatrist."
is a complete B/S . The smallest check of the net would have discovered that.

OK so some dark nasty person tried to dress up an anti Islamic story with a serious sounding originator. However if anyone is interested in a breakdown of the story check out another view.

Cheers


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Viral Claptrap "A German's View on Islam".

Hate Email.

Several misguided individuals sent me a copy of this viral email, "A German's View on Islam".

Firstly, it is important to state that the purported author, Emanuel Tanay, M.D had nothing to do with the article. Indeed he has expressed strong disagreement with both the content and tone of the writing.

The article was written by second generation Canadian Paul E. Marek and was first published in a right-wing Israeli newspaper Arutz Sheva, Israel National News. One of many such articles designed to appeal to an audience with hatred, bigotry and xenophobia carried proudly as part of their very soul.

http://honeymoonover.blogspot.com.au/2009/09/viral-claptrap-germans-view-on-islam.html
 
Noco do you ever, ever choose to check the credibility of the stuff you post on these forums?

Again the post you just put up allegedly coming from "Dr. Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and
well-respected psychiatrist."
is a complete B/S . The smallest check of the net would have discovered that.

OK so some dark nasty person tried to dress up an anti Islamic story with a serious sounding originator. However if anyone is interested in a breakdown of the story check out another view.

Cheers




http://honeymoonover.blogspot.com.au/2009/09/viral-claptrap-germans-view-on-islam.html

I read your link to the 'HONEY MOON IS OVER" and there does not seem to be a character who is prepared to put his name to it....It also appears to go back to December 2009....A lot can change in the world in 6 years.

I refer you to my high lights....So do you personally disagree of what has been written irrespective of the fact that it may have been written by Paul Merek.


Here follows the original viral email:

Subject: A German's View on Islam.

Whatever this writer's credentials might or might not be, what is written here is the way it is. No-one can afford to remain silent.

Subject: A German's View on Islam

This is by far the best explanation of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read. His references to past history are accurate and clear. Not long, easy to understand, and well worth the read. The author of this email is purported to be Dr. Emanuel Tanay, a well known and well respected psychiatrist.

I could find no affirmation nor denial of the validity of the letter in Snopes.com.
 
Noco the post you offered as an explanation of the current situation with Islam is simplistic and incendiary. In a nutshell it says that Islam is now a fanatic dominated institution which is on the march around the world to destroy and dominate our way of life - unless we stop them first.

It's a call to arms Noco. A call to hate, to totally distrust and to destroy everything to do with the Islamic religion because it is allegedly now in the hands of fanatics.

It's calling for a Christian Crusade. Do you want to see the outcomes of the last 6 Crusades ? Not pretty.

I could go into detail of the numerous lies and mis statements throughout the story. But the core is fear, hate and starting a war to cleanse the earth of Islam before they do it to us.

It's a poisonous dangerous lie.
 
Noco the post you offered as an explanation of the current situation with Islam is simplistic and incendiary. In a nutshell it says that Islam is now a fanatic dominated institution which is on the march around the world to destroy and dominate our way of life - unless we stop them first.

It's a call to arms Noco. A call to hate, to totally distrust and to destroy everything to do with the Islamic religion because it is allegedly now in the hands of fanatics.

It's calling for a Christian Crusade. Do you want to see the outcomes of the last 6 Crusades ? Not pretty.

I could go into detail of the numerous lies and mis statements throughout the story. But the core is fear, hate and starting a war to cleanse the earth of Islam before they do it to us.

It's a poisonous dangerous lie.

So Islam is "the religion of peace", full of goodwill and peace to all men, spreading love and kindness wherever they go?

I don't think that's quite accurate either basilio. Let's not be deluded by leftist naïveté. Islam, to a greater or lesser extent, is presenting a problem. It's partly our own doing on several fronts, but Islam is not all about fairy floss and angel dust mate. Elements of Islam are indeed controlled by extremists. Stuffed if I know how that escaped your notice... our the Guardian's.
 
Did I ever say Islam was ever about fairy floss or angel dust ? Yes we have a serious problem with religious fanatics. ISIS is well up there as a major problem. My point is NOT confabulating a virulent group of people with every person who is a Muslim.

Go that way and we are starting a world wide religious war. In fact this is exactly what ISIS is trying to achieve. To turn all Muslimis into defenders of ISIS because the rest of the world hates and fears all Muslims.
 
Did I ever say Islam was ever about fairy floss or angel dust ? Yes we have a serious problem with religious fanatics. ISIS is well up there as a major problem. My point is NOT confabulating a virulent group of people with every person who is a Muslim.

Go that way and we are starting a world wide religious war. In fact this is exactly what ISIS is trying to achieve. To turn all Muslimis into defenders of ISIS because the rest of the world hates and fears all Muslims.

They will be successful in that endeavour until purportedly moderate Muslims renounce the actions of ISIS and other fanatics, separating themselves ideologically. There is some motion on this, but not enough yet.

Ergo, the article is not far off the mark.
 
They will be successful in that endeavour until purportedly moderate Muslims renounce the actions of ISIS and other fanatics, separating themselves ideologically. There is some motion on this, but not enough yet.

Ergo, the article is not far off the mark.

I think basilio is getting carried away with himself in trying to discredit the author whether it be Paul; Meker or that other guy....The fact of the matter is the article irrespective of the source is factual and it is an indication the Islamic radicals will be defeated over time.

Some people are very naive and dense.......They will not always accept the facts as they are.

For basilio trying to discredit me is incidental and is just another attempt of character assassination....It does not work basilio.
 
So Islam is "the religion of peace", full of goodwill and peace to all men, spreading love and kindness wherever they go?

I don't think that's quite accurate either basilio. Let's not be deluded by leftist naïveté. Islam, to a greater or lesser extent, is presenting a problem. It's partly our own doing on several fronts, but Islam is not all about fairy floss and angel dust mate. Elements of Islam are indeed controlled by extremists. Stuffed if I know how that escaped your notice... our the Guardian's.

So all these terrorism stuff... if we take Islam out of the equation, will the same group of people commit terrorism in whatever name they then call it?

If they would, then what does Islam got to do with it?

I think we'd all be pretty upset if the Chinese or the Israelis or the Yanks or the Poms talk about replacing our leadership then send jets over our skies and bombing the bad guys on our soil, forcing us to flee to bloody New Zealand or Tasmania, haha...

The only people that get to change our leaders and force policies on us are Uncle Rupert and his empire, the Packers and the backdoor dealings in Canberra. Aside from those, no one else can tell us who our Captain is and what's good for us. Alright?


Anyway, just as we shouldn't justify crimes and violence perpetrated on us... we shouldn't justify violence we perpetrate on others.

To say that whatever azz our boots kick or our missiles shreds is acceptable because we're the good guys... well that's not much of an argument since they don't think they're the bad guys either.
 
Well worth a read .???


It is the
fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims
and homosexuals.


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Considering Abbott's and the Christian rights fall from influence we can be assured that we as a society are on the path from intolerence and toward social cohesion, this being an anathema it seems to fanatics of all stripes; a big step in the right direction.

Surely Tony could give George Pell to aid the aims of justice a double back from rome on his bicycle to avoid air travel health terrors ? Tony seems so quiet on the Institutional Child Abuse RC issue... and Cory ... and Eric...

Are oysters halal??? they're certainly not kosher ... goat prices are up but you can tell from reading the above here, that they haven't got any smarter.
I mean;
‘The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at
this moment in history.
........from the 4th paragraph...
Really do they??? Care to name them and the groups they rule so we can get a percentage of influence noco? or any of your fellow xenoph(... oops) travellers.

I was in a Lebanese bakery yesterday, Xmas day, arfternoon. I'll have to admit I felt terribly unthreatened by the experience even with the halal sticker on the window. Mmmm .... what would I rather give my children ?? An unpunished violent sexual rape by the clergy. Or a spinich and cheese triangle.
 
Considering Abbott's and the Christian rights fall from influence we can be assured that we as a society are on the path from intolerence and toward social cohesion, this being an anathema it seems to fanatics of all stripes; a big step in the right direction.

Surely Tony could give George Pell to aid the aims of justice a double back from rome on his bicycle to avoid air travel health terrors ? Tony seems so quiet on the Institutional Child Abuse RC issue... and Cory ... and Eric...

Are oysters halal??? they're certainly not kosher ... goat prices are up but you can tell from reading the above here, that they haven't got any smarter.
I mean;
‘The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at
this moment in history.
........from the 4th paragraph...
Really do they??? Care to name them and the groups they rule so we can get a percentage of influence noco? or any of your fellow xenoph(... oops) travellers.

I was in a Lebanese bakery yesterday, Xmas day, arfternoon. I'll have to admit I felt terribly unthreatened by the experience even with the halal sticker on the window. Mmmm .... what would I rather give my children ?? An unpunished violent sexual rape by the clergy. Or a spinich and cheese triangle.

Some of you people just don't get it do you?

The Islamic movement want World domination whether they are moderates or radicals......The Islamic movement brainwash the kids in Muslims schools in Australia with the Koran 5 times a day.....That is, if you are a Christian or an infidel you must be eliminated......The Islamic movement want Sharia law through out the World ...Now I ask you the kids of today will be radicals tomorrow.......The radicals are the Islamic army in small and large cells scattered around the world and the West have been stupid enough to allow the flood of Muslim refugees to enter....They don't assimilate and they breed like rabbits.
Western Sydney has become a ghetto for Muslims and it will come a time when you won't be able to enter their community...They will have their Sharia law just as they have done in some UK towns...Even the the police daren't enter these areas.

The West needs to wake up before it is too late.
 
Considering Abbott's and the Christian rights fall from influence we can be assured that we as a society are on the path from intolerence and toward social cohesion, this being an anathema it seems to fanatics of all stripes; a big step in the right direction.

Surely Tony could give George Pell to aid the aims of justice a double back from rome on his bicycle to avoid air travel health terrors ? Tony seems so quiet on the Institutional Child Abuse RC issue... and Cory ... and Eric...

Are oysters halal??? they're certainly not kosher ... goat prices are up but you can tell from reading the above here, that they haven't got any smarter.
I mean;
‘The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at
this moment in history.
........from the 4th paragraph...
Really do they??? Care to name them and the groups they rule so we can get a percentage of influence noco? or any of your fellow xenoph(... oops) travellers.

I was in a Lebanese bakery yesterday, Xmas day, arfternoon. I'll have to admit I felt terribly unthreatened by the experience even with the halal sticker on the window. Mmmm .... what would I rather give my children ?? An unpunished violent sexual rape by the clergy. Or a spinich and cheese triangle.

Typical of the left to present such a biased false dichotomy. Really Orr, that's a ludicrous fallacy.

Muslims, in fact any group, once they reach a critical mass in numbers will agitate for change to their cultural biases. The question is, do we, a notionally Christian society want that change. Mate,I don't mind baklava and kebabs, but you can stick Sharia law where the sun don't shine.

I like our society and I t think we have a right to choose the extent of any outside influences.

You might disingenuously invoke sesquipedalian tags you don't quite know the true meaning of, such as xenophobia, but that just a straw man.

Xenophobia is not a true problem in this country
 
Typical of the left to present such a biased false dichotomy. Really Orr, that's a ludicrous fallacy.

Muslims, in fact any group, once they reach a critical mass in numbers will agitate for change to their cultural biases. The question is, do we, a notionally Christian society want that change. Mate,I don't mind baklava and kebabs, but you can stick Sharia law where the sun don't shine.

I like our society and I t think we have a right to choose the extent of any outside influences.

You might disingenuously invoke sesquipedalian tags you don't quite know the true meaning of, such as xenophobia, but that just a straw man.

Xenophobia is not a true problem in this country

Arrh well, hope you had a good one Wayne. :)

Anyhow things looking up for the Seppo's. In the paper today, "US arms deal up by $13 billion"... over the last 12 months even as the global weapons market remained flat. And we find emerging slips that a lot of this equipment is filtering into the so called enemies. The Jihad.

So not much changes, as old man Rothchild' s bank financed both sides of conflicts we continue to move on with the control of the sheeple under the icon of the medicine mans crucifix, media manipulation and have a great day sucked in by the cricket against the kids.
 
Yeh must be right. Can't be too careful about non believers. Never know what might happen.

Why don't we just jump straight to the old fashioned Red Indian solution ? Kill em all and let God sort out the goodies from the baddies........
 
While we are contemplating how we deal with the 23.4% of the worlds human beings who have a different religion it could be worth seeing how life is under ISIS and how some people (Muslims in fact) have responded.

'You will stay here until you die': one woman's rescue from Isis

When a Syrian family in southern Turkey heard a young Yazidi woman crying after she was captured by Isis, they spent months plotting to free her – then risked everything in the attempt

Emma Graham-Harrison

Sunday 27 December 2015 09.15 AEDT

Arezu came with a user guide and a list of defects, so that the buyer could not complain later about her disobedience or bad attitude. She was around 20 years old, and the sound of her crying through several months of Isis captivity had been so pitiful that it broke her neighbours’ hearts and could have splintered solid stone, the family that rescued her said.

Horrified by Arezu’s fate even before they met her, they ended up pooling their savings and putting their own lives on the line for the sake of a desperate stranger, in an extraordinary act of heroism and generosity.

It was the midnight weeping that alerted families in their quarter of Raqqa that there was a slave living nearby. The town was still adjusting to the bleak restrictions of life under Isis rule, even for free men and women.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/26/arezu-yazidi-woman-rescued-isis-neighbours-raqqa
 
Yeh must be right. Can't be too careful about non believers. Never know what might happen.

Why don't we just jump straight to the old fashioned Red Indian solution ? Kill em all and let God sort out the goodies from the baddies........

Such purulent thinking, so interesting that one so eager to take offense at trifles, would so casually say something so utterly offensive. So typical of the obnoxious double standard of the left.

I don't recall anyone suggesting genocide (apart from you of course basilio). Who would make the kebabs then dammit?

The fact is, limiting or vetting who we admit to our society has nothing to do with red Indians (a term they consider offensive btw. So be offended and demand an apology from yourself Mr PC). It is about preserving those parts of our culture we want to keep while enriching it via moderate infusions from elsewhere. Wholesale immigration Does not achieve that
 
Such purulent thinking, so interesting that one so eager to take offense at trifles, would so casually say something so utterly offensive. So typical of the obnoxious double standard of the left.

I don't recall anyone suggesting genocide (apart from you of course basilio). Who would make the kebabs then dammit?

The fact is, limiting or vetting who we admit to our society has nothing to do with red Indians (a term they consider offensive btw. So be offended and demand an apology from yourself Mr PC). It is about preserving those parts of our culture we want to keep while enriching it via moderate infusions from elsewhere. Wholesale immigration Does not achieve that

Clearly, CLEARLY, MOST MOST CLEARLY I should have put in some type of eye roll or similar notation to suggest that the proposal of eliminating 23% of the worlds population was akin to Daniel Defoes solution to the Irish problem.

The reference to the Redskins was again historical (perhaps hysterical ??) and requoting the famed Indian fighters of the day. But you all realised that didn't you ? You are far too intelligent and well read to be sucked in by such flagrant obnoxious stupidity arn't you ?

I am unimpressed with the whole discussion of a 100 year Jhid. Sounds far too close to the Crusades to be comfortable. And when Noco and co come out with poisonous dribble totally directed to attacking all Muslims and hastening the start of a Jihad/Crusade I just have to skip to the clearly obvious end game.

The alternative to an unholy war based on a generalised us/them argument is NOT attacking all Muslims on the basis of their religion. Can we stick to tackling the particular nasties rather than trying to make enemies of a quarter of the worlds people ?


"The only good Indian is a dead Indian" is a saying often attributed to General Phil Sheridan. In January of 1869, General Sheridan was in camp at Fort Cobb in Indian Territory (now Oklahoma) shortly after George Custer's fight with Black-Kettle's Cheyennes. Turtle Dove, or Toch-a-way, who was a chief of Comanches, trying to impress the General, struck himself in the breast and said "Me, Toch-a-way; me good Indian". The General smiled and answered "The only good Indians I ever saw were dead."

Phillip Sheridan repeatedly denied ever making such a statement, but several eye witnesses agree that he said it. Sheridan was well known as a bigot and Indian hater, and few that knew him doubted his agreement with the statement. In any case, the statement attributed to Sheridan evolved into the more generalize and powerful proverbial form "The only good Indian is a dead Indian." and became synonymous with the Indian policy of most of the military at that time. This opinion lingered on, and another infamous, Indian fighter made the following incredible remarks at a speech in January of 1886 in New York: "I suppose I should be ashamed to say that I take the Western view of the Indian. I don't go so far as to think that the only good Indians are dead Indians, but I believe nine out of every ten are, and I shouldn't like to inquire too closely into the case of the tenth." These words were spoken by Theodore Roosevelt less than 15 years before he became President of the United States.

http://everything2.com/title/The+only+good+Indian+is+a+dead+Indian
 
Clearly, CLEARLY, MOST MOST CLEARLY I should have put in some type of eye roll or similar notation to suggest that the proposal of eliminating 23% of the worlds population was akin to Daniel Defoes solution to the Irish problem.

Oh come on basilio! What you were doing is equating the filtering and limiting of immigrants, to their genocide, the implication that that's what we really want. An argumentative fallacy common with lefties and Guardianistas, taught by the moonbat et al.

The reference to the Redskins was again historical (perhaps hysterical ??) and requoting the famed Indian fighters of the day. But you all realised that didn't you ? You are far too intelligent and well read to be sucked in by such flagrant obnoxious stupidity arn't you ?

But you don't see the double standard and obnoxious hypocrisy of your poisonous political extreme, do you? If anyone else dare mention those words formerly used to denote various races, even in a historical context, you and your buddies are jumping up and down like bandicoots in faux outrage, inflaming the minorities concerned and demanding apologies.

I am unimpressed with the whole discussion of a 100 year Jhid. Sounds far too close to the Crusades to be comfortable. And when Noco and co come out with poisonous dribble totally directed to attacking all Muslims and hastening the start of a Jihad/Crusade I just have to skip to the clearly obvious end game.

I don't imagine too many people would give a crap what you are impressed, or unimpressed with. The fact remains that a Jihad is in place against the West, whether justified or not, and that has nothing to do with any goddam crusade! I am continuously astonished by how you conflate arguments, to bludgeon them into fitting your ideology.

Jihad <> Crusade. Get it?

The alternative to an unholy war based on a generalised us/them argument is NOT attacking all Muslims on the basis of their religion. Can we stick to tackling the particular nasties rather than trying to make enemies of a quarter of the worlds people ?

Basilio when so many condone Jihad via their silence, vis a vis unwillingness to condemn the violence of the Jihadists, the whole community, bar a few individuals, remain suspect. That is the pragmatic truth.
 
Go for it folks. You want a war. Just keep accusing a quarter of the worlds population of being in the thrall of fanatics who want to rule the world in their image.

That of course is completely different to how the US behaves isn't it ? Democrat, rational, fair, liberal, and they never blast the bejesus out of people "they think might be threat at sometime in the future". Pre emptive warfare I believe it is called.

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I just finished watching Elizabeth with Geoffry Rush, Cate Blanchett. Great story and it got me thinking about Queen Elizaebths response to the Catholic/Protestant war in the 1500's.

On the one hand the Spanish and the Catholic Church were very strong on eliminating heresy. If you didn't believe in the One True Faith you were looking a being the main attraction at the next open air BBQ.

Elizabeth on the other hand decided that discretion was the better part of valour and a lot more peaceful. She passed the Uniformity Act which established a common English payer book. However she did not attempt to pry into the conscience of her citizens. If you were trying to overthrow the Queen you went for the high jump but she did not attempt to attack Catholics for their private, personal beliefs.

Far more wholesome I thought.
 
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