Gold Price - Where is it heading?
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"Buy PHYSICAL Gold. NOW: The Discount of a Lifetime:
Or Why You Must Abandon the Fake Paper Gold Market"
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In my view, we are obviously bracketing here for now. Markets bracket before trending. If we don't scare some shorts in an uptrend (1st target 1441.6), then the next bracket isn't that far way, the center being 1250 ish....
FWIW, the range of late, has a 100% extension equal to 1182 ish...so a little confluence there.
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CanOz
FWIW, the range of late, has a 100% extension equal to 1182 ish...so a little confluence there.
Cheers,
CanOz
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errrrr yes but.... the BLS has altered the way in calculates the CPI significantly across that time! Hedonic indexing and substitution are the norm now, not to mention other little statistical tricks to keep it as low as possible. Its not exactly what you call a constant data series, it is a little bit intellectually dishonest to base anything much on it.
.... errrr and, GOLD IS NOT AN INFLATION HEDGE! It never has been, it is a crisis hedge, it only rises in value when the system comes under pressure and safe returns are hard to find. Over the decades real estate has been a better inflation hedge... 99% of the time that is true, it is only when you get the sort of mess that we have today that its value comes to the fore.
That is crap "research" really, very shallow.
.... errrr and, GOLD IS NOT AN INFLATION HEDGE! It never has been, it is a crisis hedge, it only rises in value when the system comes under pressure and safe returns are hard to find. Over the decades real estate has been a better inflation hedge... 99% of the time that is true, it is only when you get the sort of mess that we have today that its value comes to the fore.
That is crap "research" really, very shallow.
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LOL, spoken like a true Gold Bug...if the research doesn't fit the view....
I just posted it because it was on topic, i hold NO VIEW.
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Interesting?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-17/us-mint-sells-record-63500-ounces-gold-one-day
fits with what most are saying about bullion being in huge demand.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-17/us-mint-sells-record-63500-ounces-gold-one-day
fits with what most are saying about bullion being in huge demand.
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Afternoon: Mr Z
Okay, there was no bubble. The price reached a point where support dwindled and then dissipated causing gold to track sideways in a volitile range subject to the optimism of buyers or pessimism of sellers. Then a major player sold down 50% of his holding (took profits, deployed his capital elsewhere?) and the big banks tested their "sell down gold program". It tested well, so the big banks announced that they were out of gold, recommended to their clients to get out of gold, provided a basis for getting out (long term price drop due to recovering economy) then unleashed their program on an unsuspecting market.
See above, no bubble just a huge market rout conducted in a manner to maximise profits for the big banks.
I suspect US$2,000.00 per ouncet will be a long time comming, mainly because I can't see too many people willing to bet against the big banks. All they have to do is turn their program on again one night and repeat the exercise pushing, the market down to their previously stated level for 2014.
As mentioned before, I don't trade gold. I stick to equities and trade a short list where there is liquidity, spread and recuring opportunity. I know the ones I trade fairly well but that doesn't stop me from being surprised from time to time. Oh... and I'll leave the postulating to others.
Okay, there was no bubble. The price reached a point where support dwindled and then dissipated causing gold to track sideways in a volitile range subject to the optimism of buyers or pessimism of sellers. Then a major player sold down 50% of his holding (took profits, deployed his capital elsewhere?) and the big banks tested their "sell down gold program". It tested well, so the big banks announced that they were out of gold, recommended to their clients to get out of gold, provided a basis for getting out (long term price drop due to recovering economy) then unleashed their program on an unsuspecting market.
See above, no bubble just a huge market rout conducted in a manner to maximise profits for the big banks.
or pessimistic?...
Oh yeah and 2K.... conservative to say the least ... if gold goes by its past patterns, which it pretty well is now, it will end the next major rally circa 4K..... but that is a purely technical projection given past data, it could always get "irrational"
I suspect US$2,000.00 per ouncet will be a long time comming, mainly because I can't see too many people willing to bet against the big banks. All they have to do is turn their program on again one night and repeat the exercise pushing, the market down to their previously stated level for 2014.
As mentioned before, I don't trade gold. I stick to equities and trade a short list where there is liquidity, spread and recuring opportunity. I know the ones I trade fairly well but that doesn't stop me from being surprised from time to time. Oh... and I'll leave the postulating to others.
LOL, spoken like a true Gold Bug...if the research doesn't fit the view....
I just posted it because it was on topic, i hold NO VIEW.
CanOz
Call me a goldbug at your peril! I aint no such thang boy!
Fact is it is crap research, you take a look for yourself, the US CPI has been stuffed around no end since the 70's, basically it has been invalidated for any long term comparison.
Add to that the fact that if you do a simple correlation study you will find that there is little correlation between inflation and rising gold prices. We had a 25 year gold bear market and there was inflation across the whole of that period, yet gold went $8xx to $250. You will not find many goldbugs pointing that out!
Re: Afternoon: Mr Z
Yes, well. I will be here to remind you
You assign too much power to the banks in determining the price of gold, a mistake that makes you sound just like a goldbug These episodes are short term events for fun and profit... normally... mind you this smells a little desperate.
Yes, well. I will be here to remind you
You assign too much power to the banks in determining the price of gold, a mistake that makes you sound just like a goldbug
These episodes are short term events for fun and profit... normally... mind you this smells a little desperate.
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It's rather odd how gold is the inflation hedge yet as you say, the moment inflation was mentioned, gold started getting caned because inflation meant higher interest rates and gold pays no interest!
Oh but now deflation is the problem, with deflation there is no reason to own gold because real assets like gold will deflate go down, that's deflation.
Economics has always been a bit of mystery to me.
Maybe if your currency is up against a basket of others like the US and gold is down against the US(benchmark) then you should buy gold. It's not like that is the case now though is it!
Hey the AU must be going to 150 against the US. Yeah it's going up isn't it.
Oh but now deflation is the problem, with deflation there is no reason to own gold because real assets like gold will deflate go down, that's deflation.
Economics has always been a bit of mystery to me.
Maybe if your currency is up against a basket of others like the US and gold is down against the US(benchmark) then you should buy gold. It's not like that is the case now though is it!
Hey the AU must be going to 150 against the US. Yeah it's going up isn't it.
Re: Afternoon: Mr Z
Just another small point that you will not be aware of since you don't follow gold. Bubbles tend to pop with an over supply, yet we have a stock shortage as physical buyers have cleaned the shelves across the world. Every dealer that I have seen report so far has said --> running out of metal FAST. Now don't you find that a little strange if it truly where a bubble.... just sayin, should the shelve be overloaded with the crap that no one wants anymore?
Just another small point that you will not be aware of since you don't follow gold. Bubbles tend to pop with an over supply, yet we have a stock shortage as physical buyers have cleaned the shelves across the world. Every dealer that I have seen report so far has said --> running out of metal FAST. Now don't you find that a little strange if it truly where a bubble.... just sayin, should the shelve be overloaded with the crap that no one wants anymore?
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Insolently I have just sold my last house cause it really is a bubble and with miners tanking Ausi economy aint going nowhere that means banks, houses everything. I am seriously considering going to the Perth mint in a few months and buying the real deal!
Think I'll live in a tent with my gold for a pillow at night and a napsack in the day, I won't shower and will dress like a bumb.
Anyone got a room? I'm good company
I will look happy to see you but don't get too excited that will just be my sorn off if I see you reaching for my sack.
Think I'll live in a tent with my gold for a pillow at night and a napsack in the day, I won't shower and will dress like a bumb.
Anyone got a room? I'm good company
I will look happy to see you but don't get too excited that will just be my sorn off if I see you reaching for my sack.
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No it isn't {sigh} its a crisis hedge damn it! It is insurance.... jeeez
That's right, I forgot.
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Rubbish anyone worth his salt understands that important essentials are renoved from the CPI calculation.
And in the US now they are so bad that they revise down the previous months figures and get away with it because few notice and those that do are not heard.
And on unemployment if a person has not been able to get a job after 12 months they are taken off the figures. (Without checking it) officially is about 7% but in fact some established comentators say it is more like 22%.
Oh, and we do know that 65 million are on food stamps.
Could go on but cooking dinner. Will do some real stuff later
LOL, spoken like a true Gold Bug...if the research doesn't fit the view....
I just posted it because it was on topic, i hold NO VIEW.
CanOz
Rubbish anyone worth his salt understands that important essentials are renoved from the CPI calculation.
And in the US now they are so bad that they revise down the previous months figures and get away with it because few notice and those that do are not heard.
And on unemployment if a person has not been able to get a job after 12 months they are taken off the figures. (Without checking it) officially is about 7% but in fact some established comentators say it is more like 22%.
Oh, and we do know that 65 million are on food stamps.
Could go on but cooking dinner. Will do some real stuff later
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