Gay Marriage

[Calliope]

How would I know?

How do you know?

Have you seen Keating in a steam bath house or the like?

One of the things I admire about you Mac is your naivety. You may be surprised to know that most Gays are above the bath-house culture and are more interested in the fine arts.

 

[Macquack]

One of the things I admire about you Mac is your naivety. You may be surprised to know that most Gays are above the bath-house culture and are more interested in the fine arts.

I know a few gay people and they are all very nice.

Just for clarification, have you previously posted, that your brother is gay?

 

[trainspotter]

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[Calliope]

I know a few gay people and they are all very nice.

Just for clarification, have you previously posted, that your brother is gay?

Clarification of what? He's also an avid whale watcher. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

 

[Macquack]

Clarification of what? He's also an avid whale watcher. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I was making the point, that if your brother is gay, then you would have more experience in spotting a "gay".

 

[Tink]

This is probably off topic, but I read an article a while back that said, they were trying to remove the gender box being ticked when a baby is born in Germany.
Parents can choose whether they tick the box or not.

Where are we heading with this, that we will no longer be ticking the gender box?

 

[Trembling Hand]

This is probably off topic, but I read an article a while back that said, they were trying to remove the gender box being ticked when a baby is born in Germany.
Parents can choose whether they tick the box or not.

Where are we heading with this, that we will no longer be ticking the gender box?

To hell I would imagine if people don't bother to check their facts and just use any half story to confirm their bias,

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/10/germany-third-gender-birth-certificate

 

[Tink]

To hell I would imagine if people don't bother to check their facts and just use any half story to confirm their bias,

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/10/germany-third-gender-birth-certificate

Oh OK, there are 3 boxes now, my mistake.

 

[noirua]

All marriage should be abolished and therefore solve the problem. Instead, a partnership contract, done on the cheap, both partners sign, jump or hop over a broomstick, and job done.

If either partner wants to dissolve their contract, they turn up, pay the fee, jump backwards over the broomstick and thats that.

There will be the option of circling the broomstick or being carried over it, for those who cant hop or jump.


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[Trembling Hand]

Oh OK, there are 3 boxes now, my mistake.

For very good reason. Did you read what an intersex child is?

 

[bellenuit]

For very good reason. Did you read what an intersex child is?

That's an interesting article. I hadn't heard of intersex children before, those that can't be identified as either male or female when they are born.

Some very sad stories I have become aware of in the last few years are children who physically are distinctively one sex, but emotionally/psychologically the other. They often have very distressing childhoods, feeling completely out of place in their "skin" and in the gender roles they are expected to fulfil. Suicide is high amongst those children when they enter their teenage years and gender becomes such an important issue. The problem is often resolved by hormone treatment followed by a sex change, which is not only expensive, but requires very caring and understanding family and friends. However, doctors are reluctant to undertake such treatment when the kids are in their younger years, because many such kids are known to emotionally and psychologically revert to match their physical gender as they grow older, so such treatment might backfire. Such children would obviously not be helped by the German law, as their physical gender is obvious at birth, but their mental alignment takes a while to be recognised. I don't know if those who successfully change sex can have their birth certificate altered in later life, but it would help them avoid embarrassing situations following their sex change when dealing with officialdom.

 

[trainspotter]

We'll have none of that around here you know !

THE High Court has struck down the ACT's same-sex marriage laws.
The court unanimously ruled that the ACT's Marriage Equality (Same Sex) Act 2013 could not operate concurrently with the federal Marriage Act 1961.
The ACT enacted its same-sex marriage legislation in November with the first couples marrying at the weekend.
About 30 couples have tied the knot.

http://www.news.com.au/national/bre...ay-marriage-laws/story-e6frfku9-1226781458937

 

[Calliope]

We'll have none of that around here you know !

Nor in India.

Homosexual sex is illegal, and punishable by life in prison, India’s highest court has ruled.
In setting aside a 2009 judgment by the Delhi High Court that decriminalised homosexual sex, the Supreme Court of India on Wednesday ruled that Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code was constitutionally valid.
Section 377 - ‘‘Unnatural offences’’ - states that ‘‘carnal intercourse against the order of nature with any man, woman, or animal’’ shall be punishable by life imprisonment.

Framed by the British in 1860, Section 377 does not specifically define ‘unnatural offences’, but it is has historically been interpreted as an anti-sodomy law. Petitions brought before the Supreme Court appealing the lower court’s ruling, argued that gay and lesbian sex are against the order of nature.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/gay-sex...ghest-court-20131211-hv5b7.html#ixzz2nE4tIqcf

 

[orr]

That's an interesting article. I hadn't heard of intersex children before, those that can't be identified as either male or female when they are born.

Some very sad stories I have become aware of in the last few years are children who physically are distinctively one sex, but emotionally/psychologically the other. They often have very distressing childhoods, feeling completely out of place in their "skin" and in the gender roles they are expected to fulfil. Suicide is high amongst those children when they enter their teenage years and gender becomes such an important issue. The problem is often resolved by hormone treatment followed by a sex change, which is not only expensive, but requires very caring and understanding family and friends. However, doctors are reluctant to undertake such treatment when the kids are in their younger years, because many such kids are known to emotionally and psychologically revert to match their physical gender as they grow older, so such treatment might backfire. Such children would obviously not be helped by the German law, as their physical gender is obvious at birth, but their mental alignment takes a while to be recognised. I don't know if those who successfully change sex can have their birth certificate altered in later life, but it would help them avoid embarrassing situations following their sex change when dealing with officialdom.

Half a dozen years ago I had to explain the morphology of indeterminate sex at birth to an incredulous building site worker, who then, in his mid 30's reading had never progressed past the sports pages of the 'Telegraph', on his hearing 'the Greens' policy proposal to include sex reassignment surgery on Medicare.
'Black and White' sexual determination of humanity, either as it is physically expressed or in the much more subtle neurological manifestations expressed, is a tool of oppression.

To see that general ignorance on the subject is still a useful political lever you only need to be assailed by the cretinous blathering's of senator Cory Banardy.

 

[ftw129]

 

[bellenuit]

 

[sydboy007]

Bellenuit

you forgot the mormons - Alien Invasion

 

[>Apocalypto<]

Now, just to change tac a little and open another can of worms not specifically related to Al Qaeda - gay marrage.

Bob Brown was in parliament today arguing that gay marriage should be accepted because it is natural and just and should be a legitimate way for two loving, caring people to express their desire to live together for the rest of their lives, under the full legal auspices of the Australian constitution.

Now, the religious and not so religious out there will have vastly different opinions on this and it will be interesting to see how each camp plants their feet. I have the feeling that those out there following the Good Book will say, Holy Sheet, that is just not playing darts! While the athiests and agnostics will be mixed.

Me, I used to be homophobic because it is part of my cultural background but now I am more open minded. I am now leaning towards ANY relationship that is a permanement recognition of someones union with another to be judged as a 'marriage'. After all, marriage was not an invention of the church but it was an invention of the culture of the day. It was just a way of regulating society and making sure everything was ordered in some way. (Actaully, I am more cynical about marriage - I think men have used this as a way of 'capturing' virgin women). Somewhere along the way though, the church highjacked it and made it religiously ritualistic.

I'm sure this is linked to Al Qaeda somehow.....

Admin note: This thread was split off from 'Al Qaeda': https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2913

i have no idea why this is even an issue... just let them get married it's 2013 not 1922... allowing does no harm at all.

 

[ftw129]

Our kids, the next generation and our future, tell Abbot how it is.

http://youtu.be/yBZwu5bAEdo

"Let's have a blokes question" He says at the end LOL

 

[ftw129]