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ftw129 said:
Because a SIGNIFICANT portion of these children are gay.

10% or more.

Your views are completely outdated, irrelevant and inappropriate.
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Maaaaate

It is attitudes like yours which risk alienating passive supporters such as myself.

I'm in the what the hell it doesn't hurt me, so why not camp (but still on the fence really). But traditionalists have a right to their opinion also and your efforts to marginalize them smacks of hypocrisy.

You cannot win arguments about prejudice by being prejucided... And right or wrong, the onus is on the gay community to win the argument. Don't blow it by wishing old farts would die off man! That mean spirited.
 
This middle aged fart's opinion FWIW:

I think it only fair that committed life partners have equal rights and responsibilities under the law. Therefore it seems fitting that there is so officially recognized commitment ceremony equivalent to hetro marriage, for same sex couples, vis a vis, in effect marriage.

Whether the nomenclature is the same for same sex couples.... Dunno at this point in time. Lots of cultural impediments for the moment.

But certainly the rights should be equal IMO.

It might just take a bit more time to get to the "marriage" nomenclature, but I'm sure one day it will be accepted by all and sundry... but not via old farts dying off. ;)
 
wayneL said:
This middle aged fart's opinion FWIW:

I think it only fair that committed life partners have equal rights and responsibilities under the law. Therefore it seems fitting that there is so officially recognized commitment ceremony equivalent to hetro marriage, for same sex couples, vis a vis, in effect marriage.

Whether the nomenclature is the same for same sex couples.... Dunno at this point in time. Lots of cultural impediments for the moment.

But certainly the rights should be equal IMO.

It might just take a bit more time to get to the "marriage" nomenclature, but I'm sure one day it will be accepted by all and sundry... but not via old farts dying off. ;)
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Well said Wayne, pretty much what I've wanted to say but never knew quite how to articulate it....
 
ftw129 said:
Because a SIGNIFICANT portion of these children are gay.

10% or more.

Your views are completely outdated, irrelevant and inappropriate.
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That's just rude and entirely unnecessary. Tink is as entitled to her view as are you.

wayneL said:
Maaaaate

It is attitudes like yours which risk alienating passive supporters such as myself.

I'm in the what the hell it doesn't hurt me, so why not camp (but still on the fence really). But traditionalists have a right to their opinion also and your efforts to marginalize them smacks of hypocrisy.
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My position also. I don't really care and am getting pretty tired of all the noise about it.

wayneL said:
This middle aged fart's opinion FWIW:

I think it only fair that committed life partners have equal rights and responsibilities under the law. Therefore it seems fitting that there is so officially recognized commitment ceremony equivalent to hetro marriage, for same sex couples, vis a vis, in effect marriage.

Whether the nomenclature is the same for same sex couples.... Dunno at this point in time. Lots of cultural impediments for the moment.
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I think it's the nomenclature that's the problem. As I understand the situation, there are already equal rights in respect to legal and financial matters. It all seems to have now come down to just the word 'marriage'.

I don't know anyone who cares what anyone else does with or to whom in their private lives, as long as no children or animals are adversely affected.

What is wrong with "Civil Union", something that can be celebrated in whatever sort of ceremony the participants want?
 
The meaning of the word marriage is changing rapidly.

This English business arranges marriages with your pet :eek:

http://www.marryyourpet.com/ Quite a few people have done it!!!

Or if you find that a bit extreme, you can get a marriage arranged within the same genus. It's actually a bit cute and for charity in this case. :D

http://jezebel.com/5925750/call-it-puppy-love-two-dogs-marry-in-most-expensive-pet-wedding-ever

When I lived in Albert park there was a shop near me that specialised in dogs birthday parties so anything goes!

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Yes I admit my comments are out of line and are showing an emotional weakness which I am still working on.

Trading has definitely been eye opening experience, teaching me a lot about my own psychology and self control.

I have a way to go but I have faith that I'll get there.

Controlling my emotions that is.

I feel as though you guys are being respectful towards me which is why I'm taking on board your reactions and am using them to reflect on myself.

I know a lot of you are a lot older than me and I respect that.

Learn to practice what I preach is what I'm hearing...

All good :xyxthumbs

Peace.
 
I think its very sad to hear that, ftw, that families are outdated, irrelevent and whatever else you think and its a sad case when we hear children saying that.
Does this all come from the throw away society?

I am glad that my children still feel its important to keep these things for our children, they do believe in preserving things for future generations.

Gays should have equal rights for their commitment, and thats why everything was changed for their union.
Marraige it is not.

The family unit is worth saving.
Marraige may have changed through the years, but there are still traditional families with mum, dad and children, and thats what I believe should stay.
Children should still be taught this model in all schools.
I believe in celebrating our differences as male and female, and that we can have children to complete the family.
No one is excluded in this environment.

Gays on the other hand cant do this, so coming along and saying we want to be a part of this is wrong. Changing all models in schools to accomodate them is selfish on their part when they know that they cant have children and they are nothing like a hetro couple in that way.

I will be standing up for traditional marraiges as I think its important for our children and our future.
 
Dont worry, trainspotter, that will be next.

The normal gays are getting on with their lives, and there are few that dont agree with changing the marraige act, taking away parenthood (mother and father) and children rights from the equation.
I am very impressed to see them standing up for what they believe in too.

Its this Gay Lobby that is pushing to dominate the lot, which is destroying it for the normal ones.
Break up and redefine the family unit so anything goes.

These sexual activists are the problem, in my opinion.
 
Sorry I should have been a bit more clearer in my statement. I am all for same sex union, I am all for traditional marriage. I am NOT for the disintegration of the family unit. If it is a genuine love then what does it matter? As long as the children (if there are any) do NOT get hurt.

Would be a bit strange (not sure if this is the right word?) if say a gay couple (men or women) adopt, procure, surrogate, whatever, a child and this child is hetero. No doubt they will love and nurture the child etc etc BUT there would be a LOT of explaining to do along the way. Is this in the best interest of the child? I am not sure.:confused:
 
trainspotter said:
Would be a bit strange (not sure if this is the right word?) if say a gay couple (men or women) adopt, procure, surrogate, whatever, a child and this child is hetero. No doubt they will love and nurture the child etc etc BUT there would be a LOT of explaining to do along the way. Is this in the best interest of the child? I am not sure.:confused:
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I know a male couple who have adopted triplets. The kids are fine. They take it all in their stride, well looked after, happy and loved. It is the old staunch angry and fearful nutters that have the problem with it and construct outcomes in their own mind that suits their hatred and fear of the world.
 
Thanks trainspotter.
No one has denied same sex unions, its marraige that the public arent happy about, changing the whole structure for our children.
Their sexual lifestyle should not be put on par with mothers and fathers in schools.
Gender should not be taken out of marraige, children are born to a mother and father.

Anyway, I have said my bit in here about my whys and the votes have been NO to this point after the ninth attempt.
 
Ms Quentin Bryce yearns for the day when a gay PM and his/her gay partner may live openly in wedded bliss at the Lodge. We have had married gay P.M.s in the past but they have been in marriages of convenience, to maintain the facade.

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Yes, sadly we have a very unprofessional, GG.

She has used her position only given to her because Australia has a GG, to push in her son in law, Shorten.
She should never have said her opinion until March.

In hindsight, when she offered her resignation in September, Abbott should have taken it.

She has damaged the GG's office for her own agenda.
 

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