Covid was declared a pandemic on the 11 March. First reported here about jan 24. I had to recheck their sell date and it was roughly feb 13.
Its not illegal.
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No not illegal. Its known that some people talk up the market while they are selling.
He didn't get in much trouble. Mainly annoyance with some Fox commentators who believed him as he had inside information and they didn't sell. All forgotten.
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I kind of look at it the other way around. One can have whatever version of facts or ideology or whatever that they want. However, what one thinks should be or should happen is irrelevant.
One must examine the ideological reality of government and central bank responses to a given situation and invest or trade accordingly, no matter what ones own political and economic schools think.
In the end the result is the same, invest for *is. Just be prepared to jump out of the way when the *real reality bites.
<Eta> Damn I hate autocorrect
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2 or 3d ago, not sure when, i saw a long article on the abc news website explaini g how a bill was being passed giving police ansd asio the ability to take over social media account of suspected terrorist,pedophile, the usual list of "baddies"
There were 3 specific bills detailed..so not a vague arricle, one was quoted and gsve the police asio the ability to not only delete but also modify data..
Just think about it: what i am typing here could be legally change by the state and turned into on incitation to murdering or sexual agression you nsme it.so the next day i could be sent to jail wo family or lawyer alerted if they so wish and maintained there indefinitively.
That really scared me, worse the fact that today, i can not find that article anywhere after quite a few searches
So, has anyone else read it?, and is Australia not only turning into a Stalinian republic, but is actually already there to the point of fully controlled media and Propaganda
Once again, probably 3 pages of scrolling, argument presented by a defender of human rights etc...
And happy to receive any link if still available.
It is not possible i was dreaming all this
There were 3 specific bills detailed..so not a vague arricle, one was quoted and gsve the police asio the ability to not only delete but also modify data..
Just think about it: what i am typing here could be legally change by the state and turned into on incitation to murdering or sexual agression you nsme it.so the next day i could be sent to jail wo family or lawyer alerted if they so wish and maintained there indefinitively.
That really scared me, worse the fact that today, i can not find that article anywhere after quite a few searches
So, has anyone else read it?, and is Australia not only turning into a Stalinian republic, but is actually already there to the point of fully controlled media and Propaganda
Once again, probably 3 pages of scrolling, argument presented by a defender of human rights etc...
And happy to receive any link if still available.
It is not possible i was dreaming all this
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I have seen news disappear before about 15 years ago.
Australia does not and never has had Freedom of speech as a right. We have never signed the charter with the UN and the Libs are against us signing and I agree, just be a lawyers picnic.
The Government attitude is that they need these abilities to combat other nations operating within this country.
If ASIO has the ability to arrest the operative and clandestinely operate the account to catch other perpetrators then I am for it.
Of course there are risks with this.
I am concerned with overreach as the government combats the new realities.
Britain and NZ operate the same though and in my opinion our democracies are better than others. We don't have a Presidential system where power can be easily abused (as we have seen).
We do have vigilance measures operating within Parliament and the 4th estate through the ABC are still effective.
It is important they are not weakened. The Afghanistan incident shows they are still strong at present.
As a democracy we need to be able to fight without one hand tied behind our back
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These policies were announced and debated in Parliament by the way
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Should be, they were votedi am ok with deleting data..imagine child pr0n images , etc but no way should they be able to create edit, that means open legal way to fabricate what is later used as evidence.just think about it.similar of having an overwrite mode on your speed camera
As for the media, seriously?
If ABC is a counterweight..not that strong as we can see in this very example see how they present the fact that a mayor who should be elected based on our democratic rules has seen a retrospective ruling passed in qld parliament to throw it out..and people laught at Trump allegations?
ABC investigations are very selective snd playing very well in the reset spirit: globalist attacking right wing..obviously nearly fair when you consider and accept they are a leftist media, pillars of national identity: christianity, army, a bit of anti china/russia and destroying unity and favoring globalism. That woll not save democracies or freedom
With democraties like us or the US, or even France which has de facto bypassed parliament and became a Macron dictatorship a few months ago, we can not blame Putin or Xi
None of these would have been accepted silently by amnesty international or unions/people 50 y ago
The great reset: sheeples by the millions fed FB craps, propaganda and cats pictures/pr0n..but they will all have universal income so what to complain about...
Yeap still unable to find the silenced article so far
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Disagree on some of contents but like the debateanyway time to get a life while i still can.not in lockdown yet
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This is how political threads work on ASF.........
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Many years ago while in Italy, a retired furniture designer gave me an insight into what makes a good furniture designer.
"The difference between good and brilliant design, is not the individual designs that make a difference, it is how often people are told one design is more brilliant than the other"
Nothing has changed, if you repeat a story often enough, even if it is not real/factually correct, people will believe it.
Humans are dumb.
"The difference between good and brilliant design, is not the individual designs that make a difference, it is how often people are told one design is more brilliant than the other"
Nothing has changed, if you repeat a story often enough, even if it is not real/factually correct, people will believe it.
Humans are dumb.
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Is this what "Freedom of Speech" looks like in the 21st Century
The President of the United States at a campaign rally flatly denying he has lost an election when the votes have been decisively counted against him and then proclaiming he would be a "gracious loser if he lost" ?
Truly this is beyond satire, beyond parody, beyond .... ?
The President of the United States at a campaign rally flatly denying he has lost an election when the votes have been decisively counted against him and then proclaiming he would be a "gracious loser if he lost" ?
Truly this is beyond satire, beyond parody, beyond .... ?
The content is closer to the truth. Or do you not read.
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I'm a bit slow, you were being satirical.
Wait I thought you were being satirical.I'm a bit slow, you were being satirical.
Too close to the truth....
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Apparently Labor want an inquiry into right wing extremists, I wish they would just have an inquiry into extremists.
www.watoday.com.au
From the article:
Labor home affairs spokeswoman Kristina Keneally said the pandemic increased the risk of right-wing extremism due to factors such as rising unemployment, an increase in time spent on screens and an outbreak of racist rhetoric about the source of COVID-19.
Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton has emphasised the importance of focusing on threats from all sources rather than the underlying ideology.
Hopefully they can find common ground and maybe stop extremists from being able to use social media to distort information and radicalise, people to their extreme views.
Labor pushes for inquiry into right-wing extremism
Federal Parliament’s peak security committee will be asked to open an immediate inquiry into right-wing extremism amid fears the coronavirus crisis is fuelling conditions that intensify the threat.
Labor home affairs spokeswoman Kristina Keneally said the pandemic increased the risk of right-wing extremism due to factors such as rising unemployment, an increase in time spent on screens and an outbreak of racist rhetoric about the source of COVID-19.
Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton has emphasised the importance of focusing on threats from all sources rather than the underlying ideology.
Hopefully they can find common ground and maybe stop extremists from being able to use social media to distort information and radicalise, people to their extreme views.
Ban social media if they were serious about tackling extremism. It would up productivity and lower mental health problems as well. Media needs a kick up the arse as well.Apparently Labor want an inquiry into right wing extremists, I wish they would just have an inquiry into extremists.
From the article:Labor pushes for inquiry into right-wing extremism
Federal Parliament’s peak security committee will be asked to open an immediate inquiry into right-wing extremism amid fears the coronavirus crisis is fuelling conditions that intensify the threat.
Labor home affairs spokeswoman Kristina Keneally said the pandemic increased the risk of right-wing extremism due to factors such as rising unemployment, an increase in time spent on screens and an outbreak of racist rhetoric about the source of COVID-19.
Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton has emphasised the importance of focusing on threats from all sources rather than the underlying ideology.
Hopefully they can find common ground and maybe stop extremists from being able to use social media to distort information and radicalise, people to their extreme views.
Bit rich coming from Labor. I've seen some of the loonytoons commenting on Scomos and other liberals social media. Noticed some clumsy attempts on dan andrews during covid.
Labor is well known to have organised groups doing its dirty work. Similar to the multiple groups in the US.
We are following a US trend that won't end well.
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Yes Labor seem to be like most extremists, extremely anti anyone who doesn't have the same beliefs as them, like you say moxjo banning social media would be the answer.
Social media does a lot of great things, but I feel the negative outcomes of social media, far outweigh the positive outcomes.
As for mainstream media, as I have previously stated, we don't watch any news, just read what interests us on the internet, with T.V they have captive audiences and is aptly named the 'idiot box'.
Our PVR gets a good work out lol, the old Tivo is still going strong.
I should add that once the right gets grassroots movements and they gain traction, we will end up as bad as the US.
Years ago I mentioned that the more the left pushed its PC, or extreme agenda that we eventually would see violence from the right.
This ideological war needs to be toned back. I don't like scomo but some of the ridiculous bs about him is obviously a targeted attack by certain groups. I thought Dan andrews absolutely stuffed up covid responses and was dangerously stomping on rights, but he managed to dial it back.
If all you think in is black and white then realised you have fallen prey to this outrage brainwashing going on.
Years ago I mentioned that the more the left pushed its PC, or extreme agenda that we eventually would see violence from the right.
This ideological war needs to be toned back. I don't like scomo but some of the ridiculous bs about him is obviously a targeted attack by certain groups. I thought Dan andrews absolutely stuffed up covid responses and was dangerously stomping on rights, but he managed to dial it back.
If all you think in is black and white then realised you have fallen prey to this outrage brainwashing going on.
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Labor extreme?
Not another Trump thread?
Australian security services have already clearly stated the largest risk of extremists are from the right, but then what would they know?
Not another Trump thread?
Australian security services have already clearly stated the largest risk of extremists are from the right, but then what would they know?
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