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Aspartame_ Sweet Misery What a Poisened World looks Like

Just watched this....I had no idea....How many people have they killed? Yet still...its in all the diet crap...

My intake is from Diet Cola and Sugar Free Gum...no more. This is the link to the whole video not just the trailer....

CanOz

 
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CanOz said:
Just watched this....I had no idea....How many people have they killed? Yet still...its in all the diet crap...

My intake is from Diet Cola and Sugar Free Gum...no more.

CanOz

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Are you serious? About a minute of nothing in particular, no specific study quoted, and you suddenly implicitly believe that aspartame is going to kill you.

I have no idea whether a lifetime of using any sort of artificial sweetener will be harmful or not, but I've seen a lot of studies which conclude there is no particularly adverse effect from most of them.
Almost certainly, if artificial sweeteners have any role to play in ameliorating the exponential rise in obesity, that in itself would make them worthwhile when one considers the diseases which are all but inevitable as a result of obesity.

If you have any concerns, avoid all artificial sweeteners and just drink water instead of crappy Cola drinks etc.
 
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Julia said:
Are you serious? About a minute of nothing in particular, no specific study quoted, and you suddenly implicitly believe that aspartame is going to kill you.
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The entire doco goes for over an hour Julia...its actually quite old. The kicker though was when i discovered that Donald Rumsfeld was involved and that he did nothing and in effect acknowledged that there had been a massive cover up of the real research into the affects of this additive and went ahead and accelerated the marketing of it, bringing us to our present day situation. If you have any shred of a science background, you would not use the sweetener again....

I'm very serious. I wouldn't have posted it if i didn't think it was valuable.

CanOz
 
OK, thank you for explaining. I'm sure, however, if you do a few searches you will find plenty of studies that are reasonably positive re artificial sweeteners.
As I said before, however, better still to drink plain water.
 
Julia said:
OK, thank you for explaining. I'm sure, however, if you do a few searches you will find plenty of studies that are reasonably positive re artificial sweeteners.
As I said before, however, better still to drink plain water.
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Absolutly, or tea....

My new drink for hot weather is soda and lemon on ice...

Posted the whole thing...

CanOz
 
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Julia said:
Are you serious? About a minute of nothing in particular, no specific study quoted, and you suddenly implicitly believe that aspartame is going to kill you.

I have no idea whether a lifetime of using any sort of artificial sweetener will be harmful or not, but I've seen a lot of studies which conclude there is no particularly adverse effect from most of them.
Almost certainly, if artificial sweeteners have any role to play in ameliorating the exponential rise in obesity, that in itself would make them worthwhile when one considers the diseases which are all but inevitable as a result of obesity.

If you have any concerns, avoid all artificial sweeteners and just drink water instead of crappy Cola drinks etc.
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A few years ago I was advised by a nurse who visits my local chemist and does free blood pressure tests that Aspartame was harmful and that the US Government were covering up the facts. So I did some research on the net and found that nothing was being covered up and that tests by many reputable bodies found that Aspartame had no harmful effects.

As with all these issues confronting lay people, who do you believe? In this case I decided that as I rarely drink soft drinks there was no point worrying about it.
 
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bellenuit said:
A few years ago I was advised by a nurse who visits my local chemist and does free blood pressure tests that Aspartame was harmful and that the US Government were covering up the facts. So I did some research on the net and found that nothing was being covered up and that tests by many reputable bodies found that Aspartame had no harmful effects.

As with all these issues confronting lay people, who do you believe? In this case I decided that as I rarely drink soft drinks there was no point worrying about it.
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I did consume enough of it to be concerned, especially in that I've lost vision in my right eye and the best Australian Doctor's could not explain why...:eek:

Since then i have dropped my consumption only because the additive is very hard to get here in China....:xyxthumbs

All the research i did today after the video pointed to a problem with the research....nothing conclusive but i am now skeptical enuf to just do water....

CanOz
 
Aspartame: we don't consume artificial sweeteners esp aspartame. In the early years of it's release I read enough of the studies to be concerned about the formation of brain tumours. Nor was there any data available on long-term use. We had young children & decided not to expose growing bodies to aspartame. Coke was a rare treat - we leant towards lemonade - no colours, no aspartame - in moderation. I now think this was a wise decision. All 3 kids have good teeth too.

This is an old study & the evidence long term since then is not conclusive about cancer or tumour formation. But I prefer to err on the side of caution with sweeteners.
J Neuropathol Exp Neurol. 1996 Nov;55(11):1115-23. : Increasing brain tumor rates: is there a link to aspartame?

I'm wary of food additives. If weight is an issue then avoidance or moderation in consumption of regular soft drinks is a better choice. even better is Julia's choice of water. And cheaper from the tap. Though Canoz might not like tap water where he is!
 
Aspartame -

I went to a specialist a while ago about a foot problem, he told me he had a patient who had trouble walking, quite bad, they tested her for motor neurone disease it was so bad, nothing was found.

He saw her in the waiting room drinking diet coke, he asked her how many of those she drank in a day..........about 8 she replied.

When she stopped her symptoms disappeared, she had aspartame poisoning.

He also said if anyone tries to alert the public they get sued, not sure about that part but apparently they are very aggressive.

I drink it with brandy but I don't think I consume enough to effect me...........I hope.

Google is full of it.

http://www.sweetpoison.com/aspartame-information.html
 
Where there is conflicting information better to err on the side of caution and avoid all together. Anything artificial is problematic in any case.


The taste of many of those lo cal or diet drinks is disgusting in any case so if I drink soft drinks which I do occasionally it is the sugar based ones.

As for the weight issue the majority of people I see drinking these diet drinks are already overweight so it makes me wonder :confused:
 
There's talk that tumeric has health benefits. More precisely the component of tumeric called curcumin. I think it was the lower incidence of colon cancer amongst the south asian population segment in Britain that put researchers onto the scent. For a while I was adding tumeric to everything, then I found an 'activated' curcumin capsule product that I now use more. You can buy it cheaper at online pharmacies than at health food shops. I passed it by the family GP and got no adverse comment

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17959521

Scientists trial curry chemical in dementia fight
abc.net.au/news

Scientists are investigating how curcumin - a chemical compound found in the powdery curry spice turmeric - can help in the fight against dementia.

A clinical trial has started at a Sydney retirement village where 100 residents will take supplements of curcumin and be given MRIs.

Curcumin is the compound that gives turmeric is rich yellow colour. Scientists have found it is also a powerful antioxidant, an anti-inflammatory, and may halt the onset of Alzheimer's and dementia by clearing the body of a protein called beta amyloid within the region of the brain associated with memory and learning.

Ralph Martins, a professor of ageing and Alzheimer's disease at Edith Cowan University, is conducting the clinical trial in
Sydney with the McCusker Alzheimer's Research Foundation, the Brain and Mind Research Institute and the Royal Prince Alfred Medical Imaging Services.

"I would liken what amyloid is to Alzheimer's disease to what cholesterol is to heart disease," he told PM.
"If you get too much beta amyloid, you get Alzheimer's disease."

Professor Martins says a lot of research in the past has been directed towards how to treat Alzheimer's disease when symptoms appeared.
"What we currently know as clinical Alzheimer's disease is probably the end stage of disease," he said.
"So the disease is cooking in people's brain for as much as 20 years and what we're finding in the healthy normal people is that a third of them will have this toxic amyloid in their brain.

The ABC page link for the above extract no longer active ^^^
 
finicky said:
There's talk that tumeric has health benefits. More precisely the component of tumeric called curcumin. I think it was the lower incidence of colon cancer amongst the south asian population segment in Britain that put researchers onto the scent. For a while I was adding tumeric to everything, then I found an 'activated' curcumin capsule product that I now use more. You can buy it cheaper at online pharmacies than at health food shops. I passed it by the family GP and got no adverse comment

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17959521

Scientists trial curry chemical in dementia fight
abc.net.au/news

Scientists are investigating how curcumin - a chemical compound found in the powdery curry spice turmeric - can help in the fight against dementia.

A clinical trial has started at a Sydney retirement village where 100 residents will take supplements of curcumin and be given MRIs.

Curcumin is the compound that gives turmeric is rich yellow colour. Scientists have found it is also a powerful antioxidant, an anti-inflammatory, and may halt the onset of Alzheimer's and dementia by clearing the body of a protein called beta amyloid within the region of the brain associated with memory and learning.

Ralph Martins, a professor of ageing and Alzheimer's disease at Edith Cowan University, is conducting the clinical trial in
Sydney with the McCusker Alzheimer's Research Foundation, the Brain and Mind Research Institute and the Royal Prince Alfred Medical Imaging Services.

"I would liken what amyloid is to Alzheimer's disease to what cholesterol is to heart disease," he told PM.
"If you get too much beta amyloid, you get Alzheimer's disease."

Professor Martins says a lot of research in the past has been directed towards how to treat Alzheimer's disease when symptoms appeared.
"What we currently know as clinical Alzheimer's disease is probably the end stage of disease," he said.
"So the disease is cooking in people's brain for as much as 20 years and what we're finding in the healthy normal people is that a third of them will have this toxic amyloid in their brain.

The ABC page link for the above extract no longer active ^^^
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That's quite interning...the compound is also an approved color agent....we used it for color trials in potato products at one company I worked for in the past.

CanOz
 
Turmeric is also reputed to have anti inflammatory properties.

Coincidentally, I came across mention of what is described as "a 100% natural sugar free sweetener".
"It looks and tastes just like sugar but has less calories and carbs than sugar. 'Perfect Sweet' has little effect on blood sugar levels and helps prevent sugar and carb cravings. It is the perfect substitute for sugar and artificial sweeteners.

Generic is Xylitol. A brief search shows it has about two thirds the calories of sugar, so maybe not that exciting in weight loss capacity. Interesting effect is that it has apparently been proven positive for dental health.
 
Julia said:
Turmeric is also reputed to have anti inflammatory properties.

Coincidentally, I came across mention of what is described as "a 100% natural sugar free sweetener".
"It looks and tastes just like sugar but has less calories and carbs than sugar. 'Perfect Sweet' has little effect on blood sugar levels and helps prevent sugar and carb cravings. It is the perfect substitute for sugar and artificial sweeteners.

Generic is Xylitol. A brief search shows it has about two thirds the calories of sugar, so maybe not that exciting in weight loss capacity. Interesting effect is that it has apparently been proven positive for dental health.
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Hey that's what's in my chewing gum here in china ! That's great news....thanks julia!
 
CanOz said:
Hey that's what's in my chewing gum here in china ! That's great news....thanks julia!
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So now with every chomp you can revel in the fact that you are creating dental health, a slender silhouette, and not risking nasty tumours etc.:):)
 
Julia said:
So now with every chomp you can revel in the fact that you are creating dental health, a slender silhouette, and not risking nasty tumours etc.:):)
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Yes, exactly....will do some research into Sorbitol as well.

thanks again Julia!

CanOz
 
Turmeric - contraindicated with some medications (Aspirin, NSAIDs). Possibly with some blood pressure & cholesterol meds. I thought about this but because of the meds I take I will stick to eating it in curries etc. But I would try it if it wasn't for this.

Xylitol - excess use may have a laxative effect. It's not calorie free.
 
Thought this would be the most relevant thread...

Few days ago my friend found out he has gallstones and will now most probably have surgery. He described the pain as like "a knife inside you trying to stab its way out". That was enough information to make me reflect on my diet, so now I have made a conscious effort to avoid really fatty foods.

I used to have Macca's and KFC probably around once a week or once a fortnight, but I will try to go cold turkey on those now. I exercise regularly, but my dad also had gallstones when he was younger, and I read that it can be hereditary.

Anyone had any experience with gallstones?
 
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