Fake News - Global Warming Consensus

[Joules MM1]

Peter Brannen‏Verified account @PeterBrannen1 Feb 21
Peter Brannen Retweeted Am Geophysical Union

Fun facts about 56 million years ago: 1) No ice on Antarctica. 2) Sand tiger sharks, palm trees and crocodiles in the arctic. 3) 104°F seawater in tropics. 4) Lethally hot on many places on land. 4) Global reef collapse. 5) Geological evidence for megastorms and floods.

Earth may be 140 years away from reaching carbon levels not seen in 56 million years.
News out of #AGUpubs https://news.agu.org/press-release/earth-may-be-140-years-away-from-reaching-carbon-levels-not-seen-in-56-million-years/ …

https://news.agu.org/press-release/...g-carbon-levels-not-seen-in-56-million-years/

 

[Joules MM1]

Calving is a normal part of the life cycle of ice shelves, but the recent changes are unfamiliar in this area. The edge of the Brunt Ice Shelf has evolved slowly since Ernest Shackleton surveyed the coast in 1915, but it has been speeding up in the past several years.

Cracks growing across Brunt Ice Shelf are poised to release an iceberg about twice the size of New York City. https://go.nasa.gov/2Sbh0m5 #Antarctica #ice #Landsat

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/144563/countdown-to-calving-at-brunt-ice-shelf

 

[Joules MM1]

3 of 3 for today

Anomalously low sea ice conditions continue around Alaska in the Bering Sea region. Well above average temperatures and relentless storms (wind & waves) have significantly affected the southern extent of the ice again this winter. More info: https://earther.gizmodo.com/why-americas-northernmost-city-is-having-a-weird-hot-w-1832619602 …

https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2019/02/why-americas-northernmost-city-is-having-a-weird-hot-winter/

Something strange is happening to the northernmost city in the United States. It’s the dead of winter, and temperatures in Utqiaġvik (formerly Barrow) should be well below zero. Late last week, they soared into the 20s and 30s—practically beach weather for Arctic Alaska.

On February 7, temperatures in Utqiaġvik flirted with the freezing mark, possibly setting a new daily high record as the normally-solid wintertime sea ice offshore gave way to open water.

The heat wave wasn’t isolated—the entire North Slope of Alaska was running a fever -1 to 10 degrees Celsius above normal. Meanwhile, to the south, levels of ice in the Bering sea were plummeting. Since January 25, Bering sea ice has receded 35 per cent, according to Rick Thoman, a climate scientist with the Alaska Center for Climate Assessment and Policy.

All of this, Thoman says, is related to a series of storms that moved from the North Pacific into the central and western Bering starting in late January. Some of those storms continued north into the Chukchi sea as well, and in doing so “transported very warm air up to the North Slope,” Thoman told Earther. The heat wave backed off this week, with temperatures dropping back into bone-rattlingly cold (aka normal) territory, although the respite from could be short-lived.

Either way, the sudden midwinter thaw falls in line with an pattern of heat and icy woes for northern Alaska, reminding us that the region continues to be ground zero for the impacts of climate change. Data Thoman shared with Earther shows Februarys in Utqiaġvik have warmed a staggering 11 degrees Celsius over the past 50 years — the highest jump of any month, although autumns on the North Slope are also seeing very rapid warming, which helps explain why the sea ice that forms offshore as the sunlight wanes has been weak as hell lately.

That the sea ice was already in a weakened state this year almost certainly contributed to its disintegration near the shoreline last week as storms blew in, Thoman said. He noted that historically, easterly winds during the winter would cause breaks in the ice a mile or two offshore, but this year’s icy breakup was a different beast entirely.

“This event was brought to you ultimately by warm sea surface temperatures that are keeping the ice thinner so it can fracture, ” he said.

In a climate sense, the rest of the state is also sweating. Februarys along the west coast, the southwest, and in the Alaskan interior are running about 12 degrees warmer than they used to, while late winter temperatures in the south and southeast have risen anywhere from a degree and a half to nearly 14 degrees.

Four of the past five years have been the warmest on record for the Alaska, with 2018 coming in as the second warmest on record.

It’s February, the coldest month of the year. We have open water in front of Utqiagvik. It is 30 F out at 11:20 at night. Strange days indeed.

 

[sptrawler]

I was just reading on the SMH, that solar panels have in large, been installed by those in the lower to middle socio economic groups.
I would post the article but I'm on a steam operated android device.
But it does go to show all the crap about only the wealthy would be able to afford to install solar, was garbage, as usual.
Once the facts come in, the wealthy are the least likely to install solar, but the loony left got a lot of mileage out of the miss information as usual. Lol

 

[Darc Knight]

I was just reading on the SMH,l

Not again! Jesus Homer, you're in Sydney, put down the SMH and go and enjoy The Cross or something

 

[sptrawler]

Not again! Jesus Homer, you're in Sydney, put down the SMH and go and enjoy The Cross or something

Too old for that $hit, I would get bashed, I upset everyone.lol
Can't help myself, growing up in mining towns, you always take the pizz some don't take it well.
There are a lot of godfather looking blokes here, I'm keeping schtum. Lol
The oldest son arrives tonight, with the grandkids, I might go out with him he's 6'3" and fights light heavyweight.lol

 

[basilio]

Perhaps the Global Warmer promoters need a little soft drink to offer to the Children as they are organized to march....

Climate strike: thousands of students take to UK streets in call to stop ...
The Guardian-15 Feb 2019
The climate change strikers have found an unusual source of support: ... School students who spoke to the New Scientist during the protests in ...
Thousands of UK students skip school for climate change
Aljazeera.com-15 Feb 2019
Climate strike: Schoolchildren protest over climate change
BBC News-15 Feb 2019
'Climate Change Is Forever.' Thousands of British Schoolchildren Walk ...
TIME-15 Feb 2019
Climate strike: Thousands of UK schoolchildren walk out of classes to ...
International-The Independent-15 Feb 2019
How a 7th-grader's strike against climate change exploded into a ...
In-Depth-Washington Post-16 Feb 2019

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Perhaps we could hear what they have to say about a world that is becoming rapidly warmer.
How to cut to the heart of the CC crisis in 2 minutes.


But if you want to hear the full version check this out. Certainly cuts through the baloney of CC denial

 

[basilio]

Maybe worth learning more about Greta Thunberg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greta_Thunberg

 

[qldfrog]

In nazi germany, little Gretchen were parading as well to praise the national socialism.Propaganda was born
I find it shameful to influence and brainwash kids that age.As a teacher Basilio, you know that more than anyone else.
"the ends justify the means" is usually used by dictator and autocrats, not people i can respect but in the media washdown and social media sea of garbage, why stop there..ethics what ethics

 

[rederob]

In nazi germany, little Gretchen were parading as well to praise the national socialism.Propaganda was born
I find it shameful to influence and brainwash kids that age.As a teacher Basilio, you know that more than anyone else.
"the ends justify the means" is usually used by dictator and autocrats, not people i can respect but in the media washdown and social media sea of garbage, why stop there..ethics what ethics

It's folly to suggest a well educated student who understands climate better than the average person is doing other than state the problem, and demand that those with the power to do something begin to act responsibly.
I think you need to revisit the garbage you posted.

 

[basilio]

In nazi germany, little Gretchen were parading as well to praise the national socialism.Propaganda was born
I find it shameful to influence and brainwash kids that age.As a teacher Basilio, you know that more than anyone else.
"the ends justify the means" is usually used by dictator and autocrats, not people i can respect but in the media washdown and social media sea of garbage, why stop there..ethics what ethics

Your way out of line here QldFrog. Your comparing a single young swedish girl articulating the concern of almost all climate scientists about an issue which threatens the whole world with a NAZI germany movement attempting to justify it's internal political agenda?

Madness mate. Please think again.

 

[qldfrog]

Your way out of line here QldFrog. Your comparing a single young swedish girl articulating the concern of almost all climate scientists about an issue which threatens the whole world with a NAZI germany movement attempting to justify it's internal political agenda?

Madness mate. Please think again.

Not really sorry Basilio but using teens for propaganda is sick and a sign of utter madness and fanatism.
Sorry but if a teacher does not realise it, i know where the problem is.
If the nazi example who created that trend and the first footages recordedrof this method shocks you, feel free to replace by north korea, chinese CCP or Ussr models.
same same
Carefully chosen young girl, a masterpiece of manipulation.
I pity her

 

[qldfrog]

But we will be saved by eating less meat
https://www.afr.com/news/world/the-...mpany-profits-than-the-planet-20190225-h1bof5

 

[basilio]

Not really sorry Basilio but using teens for propaganda is sick and a sign of utter madness and fanatism.
Sorry but if a teacher does not realise it, i know where the problem is.
If the nazi example who created that trend and the first footages recordedrof this method shocks you, feel free to replace by north korea, chinese CCP or Ussr models.
same same
Carefully chosen young girl, a masterpiece of manipulation.
I pity her

You have absolutely no idea Qldfrog.
Or you are being quite mischievous.
Greta Thunberg is totally self directed. If you read anything about her, see her Ted Talk, see her interviews you would recognise there is no external manipulation.
If anything she overtly rejects the school and social systems that say she should "get an education" "learn stuff" . In fact she has been very quick to kick away organisations that have attempted to latch onto you passion for their own reasons.

Her passion about the effects of CC and the effect this will have on her future and everyone's future comes from an exceptionally clear eyed reading of the science. If you read a bit about her you would know she has Asbergers syndrome. She sees things very clearly.

It seems clear you have no time for the science and reality behind CC.

 

[explod]

The teenagers are driving themselves because they know the situation for them is dia.

Anyway, back to partying, it's a waste of time trying to get through the emptiness.

 

[basilio]

But on a less confrontaational note, what evidence you have Qfrog for saying Greta Thunberg has been manipulated ?

 

[Darc Knight]

Anyway, back to partying, it's a waste of time trying to get through the emptiness.

Can you stop advocating partying and drinking please Plod. It's only Monday

 

[Ann]

But on a less confrontaational note, what evidence you have Qfrog for saying Greta Thunberg has been manipulated ?

This poor mentally fragile Thunberg child who has In December 2018, Thunberg described herself as having been "diagnosed with Asperger syndrome, OCD, and selective mutism" has been used dreadfully and it wouldn't surprise me if her parents are thrilled with her rising profile as mum is an opera singer and dad is an actor. This will do no harm to their careers. No doubt the GW lobby will continue to use her until she has run her course and is no longer an appealing child, they will find a replacement child star to champion their cause when she is past her use-by-date.
Now to how she has been manipulated and used by the unscrupulous....

Start-up used teen climate activist to raise millions: Swedish paper

A Swedish entrepreneur who claims to have been “the first to pay attention to” Swedish child climate activist Greta Thunberg, used her name to bring in almost SEK 10m for a new share issue, according to an investigation by the Svenska Dagbladet newspaper.

Ingmar Rentzhog, founder of We Don’t Have Time, asked Thunberg in October if she wanted to sit a Youth Advisory Board for his social media start-up We Don’t Have Time, which she accepted.



He then used her more than eleven times in the promotional material for a share issue announced on November 27.



The prospectus promised investors that the venture, which channels just 10 percent of its profits to a charitable fund, has potential to be "extremely profitable” by creating viral environmental content to pull in money via digital adverts.



Thunberg’s father Svante Thunberg told the newspaper that Rentzhog, who has a background in financial PR, had never informed the family that her name would be used.



“No, we haven't received any information about that. Neither has Greta,” he told the newspaper. “It is unfortunate if she was used commercially. But she hasn't known anything about this. None of us have known this.”



Rentzhog founded the company in 2017, aiming to create “the world´s largest social network for climate action".



On the same day that Thunberg started her school strike last August, he came with a freelance photographer, posting her photo on his Facebook page and Instagram account, and making a video in English that he posted on the company’s YouTube channel.



The film has been watched almost 88 000 times.



In the 120-page prospectus, the company makes a claim to have discovered Thunberg.



"Leading representatives from We Don’t Have Time were the first to pay attention to Greta Thunberg's protest through Facebook and Twitter posts as well as Youtube films that received viral spread,” it reads.



“The company thus played a central role in giving Greta Thunberg's protest great national and international attention.”



Rentzhog defended his decision to make We Don’t Have Time a for-profit company.



“Look, this is the situation: I am an entrepreneur and have become aware of the climate crisis,” he said.



“We want to build a platform with modern technology. This is not free, a lot of money is needed. We have so far received just over SEK 20 million from 500 investors through two new issues, of which 10 million was from the last one in December."



"The importance for us is that we can solve the climate crisis. In order for it to succeed, we must have financial resources. Then we cannot just depend on donations. I see nothing wrong with this."

 

[basilio]

Try again Ann. Great and her family disowned "We don't have time". This company had no impact on the fact that millions of people have recognised the power of her message. They were trying to jump on her back but certainly wern't manipulating her.

Gretas Asperger ? Quite real and in fact a key part of seeing the issue as clearly as she does. As she points out given the seriousness of CC one would think it would be an absolute priority. But no. Just a lot of feet shuffling and pious talk.

And of course the deniers.

 

[cynic]

Try again Ann. Great and her family disowned "We don't have time". This company had no impact on the fact that millions of people have recognised the power of her message. They were trying to jump on her back but certainly wern't manipulating her.

Gretas Asperger ? Quite real and in fact a key part of seeing the issue as clearly as she does. As she points out given the seriousness of CC one would think it would be an absolute priority. But no. Just a lot of feet shuffling and pious talk.

And of course the deniers.

If other Asperger sufferers are found to be pushing a more skeptical message, will you be as cognisant of their mental acuity?