Fake news and its effect on the community

[rederob]

Just a point baz, real news is cancelled.

Fake news (eg the horse punch) is du rigeur.

A punch is usually from a closed fist and the victim usually has a visible sudden reaction when it's to the head, as shown below:

The irony is that @wayneL works with horses and I doubt he would ever think that was appropriate to use a clenched fist on a horse.
Everyone knows a push is usually from an open hand.

Onto fake news proper:

 

[cynic]

Possibly not quite the right thread for this posting, given that the content appears to closely align with reality, but, would anyone care to guess, the source of the underquoted statement/admission?

"(Modelling can tell you anything you want - it all depends on the input)"

 

[mullokintyre]

Possibly not quite the right thread for this posting, given that the content appears to closely align with reality, but, would anyone care to guess, the source of the underquoted statement/admission?

"(Modelling can tell you anything you want - it all depends on the input)"

Yogi Berra??
Mick

 

[sptrawler]

Possibly not quite the right thread for this posting, given that the content appears to closely align with reality, but, would anyone care to guess, the source of the underquoted statement/admission?

"(Modelling can tell you anything you want - it all depends on the input)"

So true cynic, same as polls, a different outcome can be determined by the way the questions are phrased.

 

[cynic]

Yogi Berra??
Mick

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...086dda4ef5f3d4#block-625de73f8f086dda4ef5f3d4

 

[wayneL]

A punch is usually from a closed fist and the victim usually has a visible sudden reaction when it's to the head, as shown below:
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The irony is that @wayneL works with horses and I doubt he would ever think that was appropriate to use a clenched fist on a horse.
Everyone knows a push is usually from an open hand.

Onto fake news proper:
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Watch the video Red.

 

[rederob]

Watch the video Red.

Given the video shows what the photo shows, what is your point?
The bottom jaw of the horse clearly shows contact was made!

 

[cynic]

The photo captures little more than a moment in time(one which appears to have been disengenuously cherry picked).

Whilst I understand how a casual observer might easily misinterpret the image shown - a more careful examination reveals that the man's hand was only partially closed at that point in time (definitely not closed/clenched into a fist!!).

Fortunately there exists, video footage ,shedding just a little more light, on what was really happening at that time.

https://caldronpool.com/watch-police-accused-of-fake-news-after-video-emerges-of-man-punching-horse/

 

[wayneL]

The photo captures little more than a moment in time(one which appears to have been disengenuously cherry picked).

Whilst I understand how a casual observer might easily misinterpret the image shown - a more careful examination reveals that the man's hand was only partially closed at that point in time (definitely not closed/clenched into a fist!!).

Fortunately there exists, video footage ,shedding just a little more light, on what was really happening at that time.

https://caldronpool.com/watch-police-accused-of-fake-news-after-video-emerges-of-man-punching-horse/

Red sees what he wants to see not what is there in front of his eyes.

 

[cynic]

Red sees what he wants to see not what is there in front of his eyes.

'tis a common failing, prevalent throughout our society. So much so, that one might consider it a trait that is intrinsic to the human condition.

Indeed it is not the ones arrogantly claiming infallibility/perfection who earn my respect, but they, who, on some occasions, come to recognise and acknowledge their mistakes! (Those belonging to the former, in their hubris, typically fail to recognise that they are repeatedly displaying personal insecurities to those in the latter.)

Anyhow, I've drifted off topic, so if anyone has objection to this post, I am more than happy for it to be moved to a more fitting thread.

 

[rederob]

Red sees what he wants to see not what is there in front of his eyes.

police prosecuted based on evidence.
I clenched fist striking another surface is called a punch, and you are simply choosing to ignore the obvious.

The photo captures little more than a moment in time(one which appears to have been disengenuously cherry picked).

There are separate videos of the incident, so nothing was cherrypicked.

Whilst I understand how a casual observer might easily misinterpret the image shown - a more careful examination reveals that the man's hand was only partially closed at that point in time (definitely not closed/clenched into a fist!!).

You are an inept judge of what occurred.
Mr "Free Speech" retained clenched fists for some duration before and after the incident, and for a supposed animal lover, striking at a horse with a clench fist is just not on. If he was genuinely concerned for his safety then...
Mr Free Speech had many opportunities to move away from the police horses when everyone else did, but instead he chose to stand his ground. It's also a blatant lie that the horse was about to trample him. In fact horses are adept at not trampling on people!

Fortunately there exists, video footage ,shedding just a little more light, on what was really happening at that time.

There are a number of videos and quite a few photos.

Looks like we cannot counter people who believe in fake news because they simply don't accept evidence.

 

[cynic]

....
There are a number of videos and quite a few photos.
....

Okay then!! Let's view them!!!

 

[rederob]

Okay then!! Let's view them!!!

Talk to the police if you are so concerned that there is better evidence and the man did not do what everyone saw happen.
I will play with the grand children as they seem smarter than you.

 

[cynic]

Talk to the police if you are so concerned that there is better evidence and the man did not do what everyone saw happen.
I will play with the grand children as they seem smarter than you.

Yes!! Just like yourself, my puppy dog ate the homework also. But not to worry, because, again like yourself, I can assure you that the cheque's already in the mail!!

 

[Smurf1976]

I think it's high time that everybody stops categorising those on the absolute extremes, as representative of everybody on that side of the spectrum.

Indeed.

There are plenty of reasonable ideas from both ends of the ideological spectrum if the extremists are left out.

 

[wayneL]

Okay here is the MSM report... if we ignore the narrative and study the footage, that was no punch.

Or... it was the whimpiest punch
ever recorded in the last 500 years. I reckon even rederob could do better.

Actually nah, pretty clear it was a push away to protect his own face

 

[rederob]

Okay here is the MSM report... if we ignore the narrative and study the footage, that was no punch.

Or... it was the whimpiest punch
ever recorded in the last 500 years. I reckon even rederob could do better.

Actually nah, pretty clear it was a push away to protect his own face

Accidentally shooting someone is still a shooting.
As I have said, despite evidence it was a "punch" you want to downgrade it because you believe it was self defence or some BS. Self defence is not a protection when a person is where they were not allowed to be, and ordered immediately beforehand to disperse.
The moron compounded his error by also striking the horse with his right hand a moment later. As anyone can see from the overhead footage, Mr Free Speech chose to stand his ground rather than move away, and in doing so had cause to strike the horse only if he did not move, so after throwing his left he then struck "Tobruk" again with his right hand:

Here's what an instinctive action looks like in a similar circumstance:

 

[wayneL]

Red sees what he wants to see not what is there in front of his eyes.

Like I said...

 

[rederob]

Like I said...

Take it up with the police who prosecuted the idiot protester and who were physically present.
It is you who is in denial of what happened, and it's why there are so many gullible to believe what they prefer rather than what is apparent.
Your ilk are the fertile ground of fake news proliferation, and you - personally - were equally poor with the obvious over a decade ago when you scoffed at the evidence of climate change.

 

[wayneL]

Take it up with the police who prosecuted the idiot protester and who were physically present.
It is you who is in denial of what happened, and it's why there are so many gullible to believe what they prefer rather than what is apparent.
Your ilk are the fertile ground of fake news proliferation, and you - personally - were equally poor with the obvious over a decade ago when you scoffed at the evidence of climate change.

Yes the police acted with absolute integrity and honour throughout the whole covid lockdown, arresting pregnant soccer mums and pepper spraying old ladies lying injured on the ground.