>Apocalypto<
20.03.2012
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Uncle, you think too much. Just because things should do something, doesn't mean they will.
Who gives a sweet flying rats ass what happens to China?! The questions is....can you profit from it?
CanOz
My dad has done business with china for 15 years now, he was told be a manufacturing company there told him they were starting to have a labor shortage! yes a labor shortage in China! He could not find the right works with the experience he needed.
I just about fell of my seat when I heard that.
However, the composition of China's growth has undergone a potentially treacherous change: in the absence of expanding foreign demand for its exports, it has instead come to rely on a massive surge in domestic bank lending to fuel its growth rate.
Beijing’s office vacancy rate of 22.4 percent in the third quarter of last year was the ninth-highest of 103 markets tracked by CB Richard Ellis Group Inc., a real estate broker. Those figures don’t include many buildings about to open, such as the city’s tallest, the 6.6-billion yuan ($965 million) 74- story China World Tower 3.
Empty buildings are sprouting across China as companies with access to some of the $1.4 trillion in new loans last year build skyscrapers. Former Morgan Stanley chief Asia economist Andy Xie and hedge fund manager James Chanos say the country’s property market is in a bubble.
“There’s a monumental property bubble and fixed-asset investment bubble that China has underway right now,” Chanos said in a Jan. 25 Bloomberg Television interview. “And deflating that gently will be difficult at best.”
A glut of factories in China is “wreaking far-reaching damage on the global economy,” stoking trade tensions and raising the risk of bad loans, the European Union Chamber of Commerce in China said in November.
The risks are so great that a decade of little or no growth, as Japan experienced in the 1990s, can’t be dismissed, said Patrick Chovanec, an associate professor in the School of Economics and Management at Beijing’s Tsinghua University, ranked China’s top university by the Times newspaper in London.
“You have state-owned enterprises using borrowed funds from the stimulus bidding up the price of land ”” not even desirable plots of land ”” in Beijing to astronomical rates,” Chovanec said. “At the same time you have 30 percent-plus vacancy rates and slumping rents in commercial property so it’s just a case of when you recognize the losses ”” or don’t.”
China’s lending surged to 1.39 trillion yuan in January, more than in the previous three months combined.
“The liquidity bubble last year went to the property market,” said Taizo Ishida, San Francisco-based lead manager for the $212-million Matthews Asia Pacific Fund, in a phone interview. “I was in Shanghai and Shenzhen three weeks ago and the prices were just eye-popping, just really amazing. Generally I’m not buying Chinese stocks.”
Chanos, founder of New York-based Kynikos Associates Ltd., predicted that China could be “Dubai times 100 or 1,000.” Real estate prices there have fallen almost 50 percent from their 2008 peak as the emirate struggles under at least $80 billion of debt. The economy may shrink 0.4 percent this year, Shuaa Capital, the biggest U.A.E. investment bank, says.
The commercial property space under construction in China at the end of November was the equivalent of 6,800 Burj Khalifas ”” the 160-story Dubai skyscraper that’s the world’s tallest.
Overcapacity may be looming in manufacturing as well. China’s investments in new factories and properties surged 67 percent last year to 15.2 trillion yuan, more than Russia’s gross domestic product. Excess steel capacity may have reached about 132 million tons in 2009, more than the 87.5 million tons from Japan, the world’s second-biggest producer. The Beijing based EU Chamber of Commerce report said a “looming deluge” of extra cement capacity is being built.
If every country is in debt then who are the creditors?
Mr Printing Press
jog on
duc
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&sid=aR0UEJblAXgcFeb. 18 (Bloomberg) -- China may let its currency appreciate by 5 percent as early as next month to prevent economic growth from stoking inflation, according to Stephen Jen of BlueGold Capital Management LLP.
Policy makers may also raise interest rates this year to cool an economy that expanded by 10.7 percent in the fourth quarter, the fastest increase in two years, Jen said in an interview this week. The central bank last week ordered lenders to boost the amount of cash they must put aside as reserves for the second time this year in an attempt to curb growth in loans.
Mr Printing Press
jog on
duc
The first paper banknotes appeared in China about 806 CE.
The most famous Chinese issuer of paper money was Kublai Khan, the Mongol who ruled the Chinese empire in the 13th century. Kublai Khan established currency credibility by decreeing that his paper money must be accepted by traders on pain of death. As further encouragement, he confiscated all gold and silver, even if it was brought in by foreign traders. Marco Polo was impressed by the efficiency of the Chinese system, as he chronicles in his The Travels of Marco Polo (Il Milione).
"All these pieces of paper are issued with as much solemnity and authority as if they were of pure gold or silver; and on every piece a variety of officials, whose duty it is, have to write their names, and to put their seals. And when all is prepared duly, the chief officer deputed by the Khan smears the seal entrusted to him with vermilion, and impresses it on the paper, so that the form of the seal remains imprinted upon it in red; the money is then authentic. Anyone forging it would be punished with death. And the Khan causes every year to be made such a vast quantity of this money, which costs him nothing, that it must equal in amount all the treasure of the world."Yet for all the threats, paper money did not succeed everywhere. In Persia, its forcible introduction in 1294 led to a total collapse of trade. By the 15th century even China had more or less given up paper money. Over this period, paper notes grew in production to the point that their value rapidly depreciated and inflation soared.
Chinese exports dived by about 20% in 2009 so China is using it's foreign reserves to pump prime the economy. This strategy is similar to the spending policies of the Fed and European Central Banks except the Chinese don't have to borrow any money until their reserves run out. The problem for the Chinese is that they cannot convert to a consumer economy overnight. If the export market does not recover soon then they are in trouble and unfortunately for them growth rates in developed countries are likely to be lowish for the next few years so a pull back is likely. That means lower commodity prices.
By Marshall Auerback, a fund manager and investment strategist who writes for New Deal 2.0 and Yves Smith,,
Reducing investment and exports could create a severe recession in China. China has gone too far this time. They appear to be in a box that they and others don’t recognize. The “Black Swan” event this year, as far as China true believers are concerned, could well be a devaluation of the RMB. Were that to happen, the political consequences could be as significant as the economic.
Of course the real question is how the hell are they going to do it? The often thrown around line of about 25% undervalued is a huge amount. How do you go from that level without causing huge problems if you move too fast?
But then if you start to do it slowly you have signaled before hand a HUGE winning trade to all those nasty greedy speculatorsD) what your moves are and they will cause just as many problems.
They are in trouble on this one. Which of course is what capitalise would always predict but all the Capo's have relied on the Como's to keep their half baked Capitalism system alive.
They are in trouble on this one. Which of course is what capitalise would always predict but all the Capo's have relied on the Como's to keep their half baked Capitalism system alive.
The Kangbashi district began as a public-works project in Ordos, a wealthy coal-mining town in Inner Mongolia. The area is filled with office towers, administrative centers, government buildings, museums, theaters and sports fields””not to mention acre on acre of subdivisions overflowing with middle-class duplexes and bungalows. The only problem: the district was originally designed to house, support and entertain 1 million people, yet hardly anyone lives there.
Building a city for un-present residents?
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