Electric cars?

[Humid]

Right on queue
https://www.news.com.au/national/ns...d/news-story/7d98a8cd0b1006b0386892d91964a832

 

[sptrawler]

New entrant to the electric car space, Fisker made from recycled products, where possible.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/m...e/news-story/ee94026dcdfc56c66e476c17bdf7814f

 

[sptrawler]

There is a lot of consolidation going on in the auto space, with the advent of the electric car.

https://www.drive.com.au/news/volvo...g-joint-engine-development-report-123047.html

From the article:
Engine co-development between Daimler and Volvo could start as early as March this year, when Volvo is set to merge its drivetrain operations with Geely's.

Geely and Daimler have a complicated relationship. In 2018, Geely founder and chairman Li Shufu bought a nearly 10 per cent stake in Daimler, making him the largest individual shareholder in the German automaker.

Daimler already has an existing relationship with BAIC, which is its 50/50 joint venture partner in China.

Since Geely effectively became a major stakeholder in Daimler, the two companies have embarked on a number of joint-venture projects, including a ride-hailing service in China.

 

[Value Collector]

Geez you talk about cars a lot for a bloke who has no interest in cars

Nope, I don’t talk about “cars” other than electric cars, and that’s not because I am a car guy, I am just interested in the disruptive nature of the new tech, and the fact that I see it as being so much more practical from a utility side of things and environmental.

What I mean is I probably talk about electric cars the same amount as I talk about solar panels and battery storage and that sort of thing.

Think about it, except for electric cars, have you every seen me talk about any other car or motor bike? Nope.

And when I talk about my electric car, have you ever heard me talk about it in any other way than except to explain the practical sides of it or to try and correct misinformed opinions? Nope.

 

[Value Collector]

Trouble with most who own Ferrari’s can’t drive them or are too scared to nail them due the cost of repairs

did you watch the video? This guy used to drive them till they blew up, and used to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars pimping out the engines and making them into super powerful cars and then flog them to death.

 

[SirRumpole]

not sure what you mean?

Are you saying I am becoming the EV version of a petrol head? If so, not even close, I enjoy the practical sides of Ev’s and the fact they are better for The environment.

The fact that they are super fast is just a side benefit, because that is normally the first arguement petrol heads use Eg. “Well I wouldn’t buy an EV, I only like fact cars”, when faced with stupid comments like that it’s fun to be able to show them their V8 is a clunker compared to the EV’s.

I doubt if the bogans will switch to EV's no matter how fast they are.

There is no "pose" value in an EV. No noise, therefore no "listen to me" value.

But that's their problem. People who only buy cars to show off have an intelligence deficit.

 

[basilio]

I doubt if the bogans will switch to EV's no matter how fast they are.

There is no "pose" value in an EV. No noise, therefore no "listen to me" value.

But that's their problem. People who only buy cars to show off have an intelligence deficit.

Maybe , maybe not..
I'm pretty sure you can set up "noises" for electric cars to mimic a car engine.
And frankly I suggest many, many car purchases have a "show off" element. It goes from outright elitism at the top end, quirky vehicles that are special to avoidance of daggy cars. I suggest most cars are sold on style as much as substance.
https://newatlas.com/soundracer-ev-engine-sound-eveess/54140/

 

[Humid]

Nope, I don’t talk about “cars” other than electric cars, and that’s not because I am a car guy, I am just interested in the disruptive nature of the new tech, and the fact that I see it as being so much more practical from a utility side of things and environmental.

What I mean is I probably talk about electric cars the same amount as I talk about solar panels and battery storage and that sort of thing.

Think about it, except for electric cars, have you every seen me talk about any other car or motor bike? Nope.

And when I talk about my electric car, have you ever heard me talk about it in any other way than except to explain the practical sides of it or to try and correct misinformed opinions? Nope.

Except beating your brother in-law at lights.....

 

[Humid]

I doubt if the bogans will switch to EV's no matter how fast they are.

There is no "pose" value in an EV. No noise, therefore no "listen to me" value.

But that's their problem. People who only buy cars to show off have an intelligence deficit.

I don’t think you’ll have much choice eventually but I do think the purple rinse set on here are ignorant enough to confuse car enthusiasts to bogans and live in $hit suburbs full of them

 

[qldfrog]

I doubt if the bogans will switch to EV's no matter how fast they are.

There is no "pose" value in an EV. No noise, therefore no "listen to me" value.

But that's their problem. People who only buy cars to show off have an intelligence deficit.

@SirRumpole:
existing ICE on high end cars already use fake sounds, so no surprise it is already here;
I am always surprised Sir by your optimistic view of mankind.

 

[SirRumpole]

I don’t think you’ll have much choice eventually but I do think the purple rinse set on here are ignorant enough to confuse car enthusiasts to bogans and live in $hit suburbs full of them

There is no confusion, there are enthusiasts and bogans, two generally separate groups but there could be overlaps.

Enthusiasts usually keep their cars well maintained in original condition and take them out for quiet Sunday drives without annoying people.

Bogans bolt on all sorts of modifications that make the loudest noise (audially and visually) and show these off to as many people as they can (mainly of the young female variety).

Which one are you ?

 

[Humid]

There is no confusion, there are enthusiasts and bogans, two generally separate groups but there could be overlaps.

Enthusiasts usually keep their cars well maintained in original condition and take them out for quiet Sunday drives without annoying people.

Bogans bolt on all sorts of modifications that make the loudest noise (audially and visually) and show these off to as many people as they can (mainly of the young female variety).

Which one are you ?

Overlapped

 

[qldfrog]

N

There is no confusion, there are enthusiasts and bogans, two generally separate groups but there could be overlaps.

Enthusiasts usually keep their cars well maintained in original condition and take them out for quiet Sunday drives without annoying people.

Bogans bolt on all sorts of modifications that make the loudest noise (audially and visually) and show these off to as many people as they can (mainly of the young female variety).

Which one are you ?

Neither, i sold my MGB 66 after my 31rst birthday,
I bought it at my prematured 40s crisis..but my better half turned blond so i could be excused
Since utilitarian car and a jewel toy for thr lady mx5
What do you drive SirRumpole
Planning switch to EV?

 

[SirRumpole]

N

Neither, i sold my MGB 66 after my 31rst birthday,
I bought it at my prematured 40s crisis..but my better half turned blond so i could be excused
Since utilitarian car and a jewel toy for thr lady mx5
What do you drive SirRumpole
Planning switch to EV?

Diesel Hyundai.

EV ? Not yet. Living in the bush there aren't a lot of charging stations out here.

I would consider a hybrid though.

 

[sptrawler]

N

Neither, i sold my MGB 66 after my 31rst birthday,
I bought it at my prematured 40s crisis..but my better half turned blond so i could be excused
Since utilitarian car and a jewel toy for thr lady mx5
What do you drive SirRumpole
Planning switch to EV?

MGB pommie $hit, my older brother had one, we beat the local yokels at Kwinana at pool and they chased us down the road throwing cans of beer at us, the piece of crap MGB couldn't get away from a slant six Valiant ute.
Austin 1800 motor with twin SU's, the reason England became not Great.

 

[sptrawler]

Diesel Hyundai.

EV ? Not yet. Living in the bush there aren't a lot of charging stations out here.

I would consider a hybrid though.

Great pick IMO Rumpy, I recently had to replace the car for the daughter that lives with us, after looking around settled on a 209 Hyundia i30, well put together well sorted out car.
The newer cars I would expect to be better, I'm a hands on car person and IMO I'm impressed.
What I thought from driving the C-HR Toyota, was it had a brilliant energy transfer system, but it was working the battery hard.
Therefore the warranty on the battery would need to be good, as hybrids have a small battery.
Just my opinion.

With regard Hybrid, I would say Rumpy, they have come a long way.
They are still a bit pricey, but if you are looking to replace the diesel, give a few of the hybrids a run they are impressive.
But check battery warranty and battery material, some are still using nickel metal/hydride.

 

[qldfrog]

MGB pommie $hit, my older brother had one, we beat the local yokels at Kwinana at pool and they chased us down the road throwing cans of beer at us, the piece of crap MGB couldn't get away from a slant six Valiant ute.
Austin 1800 motor with twin SU's, the reason England became not Great.

Mgb add class and charm.spoke wheels, luggage carrier, but indeed the english engineering was NOT impressive, nor the absence of synchro on speed change,the 6V batteries, or the roof taking 10 minute under the storm to be setup..
But it was an antique and i i w a bit sad yo let it go..but felt safer after
These cars would be fun to convert as EV, and while purists might cry, there is not much to miss inside

 

[sptrawler]

Mgb add class and charm.spoke wheels, luggage carrier, but indeed the english engineering was NOT impressive, nor the absence of synchro on speed change,the 6V batteries, or the roof taking 10 minute under the storm to be setup..
But it was an antique and i i w a bit sad yo let it go..but felt safer after
These cars would be fun to convert as EV, and while purists might cry, there is not much to miss inside

Too much $hit metal, they were a rust magnet.
I rebuilt the engine, rebuilt the gear box, the body was just $hit.
The really sad part was, it was my older brothers car, back then I lived to pull engines, gearboxes and vehicles apart, funny how life changes.
By the way my car was a Mini Cooper S 1275, which I did the same to and it had the same problem $hit metal in the body. lol
The Honda Civic 1973, overhead cam, four main bearings , as opposed to the mini's three, made it a better car and as time has proven we really do have a problem with accepting reality.

 

[Value Collector]

Except beating your brother in-law at lights.....

Read that statement again in context,

I have never raced my brother in-law, or even been at the same set of traffic lights with him, and he has never even seen my car.

that was simply a hypothetical statement to point out that none of us need a Bathurst winning car with pit stop style refilling, even if you are a person that likes to race around town and drag people at the lights etc.

I was simply saying that a car that is quick enough to beat most petrol cars at the lights and recharged faster that it takes to takes fill the petrol car and take a pee, will out perform the petrol cars in any real world situation we will be faced with.

 

[Humid]

The thing I don’t get is the hype

Read that statement again in context,

I have never raced my brother in-law, or even been at the same set of traffic lights with him, and he has never even seen my car.

that was simply a hypothetical statement to point out that none of us need a Bathurst winning car with pit stop style refilling, even if you are a person that likes to race around town and drag people at the lights etc.

I was simply saying that a car that is quick enough to beat most petrol cars at the lights and recharged faster that it takes to takes fill the petrol car and take a pee, will out perform the petrol cars in any real world situation we will be faced with.

Ok you can be an electric car enthusiast
How’s that sound?