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Electric cars?

Would you buy an electric car?

  • Already own one

    Votes: 10 5.1%
  • Yes - would definitely buy

    Votes: 43 21.7%
  • Yes - preferred over petrol car if price/power/convenience similar

    Votes: 78 39.4%
  • Maybe - preference for neither, only concerned with costs etc

    Votes: 38 19.2%
  • No - prefer petrol car even if electric car has same price, power and convenience

    Votes: 25 12.6%
  • No - would never buy one

    Votes: 14 7.1%

  • Total voters
    198
Sounds like Russia when it was poor and had the Trabant.
Hang around we might get there yet. Lol
 
When you consider how dangerous fire is on boats vs land vehicle...
but on boats .. you can call them drownings and shark attacks

because i bet the burn to the waterline ( or lower )

suddenly you can make boats safer ( unless they are fitted with auto-pilot )
 
submarines ?

at least the fires would be contained sometimes

i wonder which types of batteries they wonder use ( in boats or submarines )
Well batteries have been used in submarines almost forever, diesel engines are noisy and require a lot of oxygen. So submarines use the diesel engines to charge the batteries, and when they need to be stealthy they switch to running on batteries.

Noise is so important in submarines that the sailers/ submariners wear soft slippers, because their foot steps might be detected by enemy listening devices.
 
yes , but the current trend is to outlaw diesel , instead of converting them to vegetable oils

so mid ocean how are you going to recharge batteries , solar panels might be cumbersome , as might be wind generation , maybe two dozen slaves on stationary bicycles , since the same Green agenda hates general use of nuclear power
 
They will be Nuclear/Battery.

Even nuclear subs require batteries during silent mode, because spinning turbines generates noise, so when trying to be stealthy they will shut down the turbines and run on battery power.
 
They will be Nuclear/Battery.

Even nuclear subs require batteries during silent mode, because spinning turbines generates noise, so when trying to be stealthy they will shut down the turbines and run on battery power.
some nations have had nuclear power submarines for decades .. Bob Newhart even has a classic skit about one

not a lot of need for large battery pack if it is already nuclear powered

but heck it might make the Greens feel better , and cheer the Germans up ( since they are busy mothballing their nuclear power plants ready for Winter

 
1971 for France
So more than 50y..
Batteries are used for ballast..lead ones heavy can be good..tell that to my wife
...and backup power..no you do not stop a nuclear reactor to enter combat mode
Not yet tomorrow we will see EV with a nuclear reactor but yes in icebreaker, massive ships, etc
 
Yes, you still need a large battery in Nuclear subs. You see Nuclear reactors just generate heat, which is used to boil water, to create steam, and turn a drive shaft and turbines. This is a relatively noisey process, and will give away your position.

However, if you instead take some of the electricity and charge batteries, you can operate without all the noisey turbines for a certain period, allowing you to be more stealthy and carry out certain tasks undetected.
 
You don’t have to stop the reactor, but with batteries you can stop spinning the turbines for a certain period of time when you need to for example if you are trying to sneak up on other warships, or conduct espionage, or maybe even drop off special forces soldiers etc
 
Sounds like Russia when it was poor and had the Trabant.
That was East Germany.

Off topic post but I've driven one and it's an experience....

Technically it does have brakes. They don't work very well but they are fitted yes and they do stop the car. Just be mindful of their limitations.

Power steering it has that yes - human muscle power.

Gear shift takes some getting your mind around but OK once familiar.

Now for the fun part.....

The fuel tank is at the front of the car and to fill it you open the bonnet. Fuel is two stroke mix not straight petrol. There's no fuel gauge but the tank does come with a dipstick to check the fuel level, something you ought do regularly if you don't like the idea of being stranded beside the road. The fuel tank is wisely placed above the rather hot running (since it's air-cooled) engine and gravity fed such that turning the engine off cuts the ignition but not the fuel supply.

Also to note is the extensive use of plastic, including for all major panels on the car.

So in short be really, really careful to not run into anything because you basically do have a bomb sitting in front of you with an ignition source below it.

Definitely one of the more memorable cars I've driven.
 
.. so , not suitable for shopping at the malls

but i am sure we could make and EV version maybe even with lead-acid batteries
 
Another Vehicle manufacturer has found that the projected sales of EV's was somewhat optimistic.

Mick
 
Another Vehicle manufacturer has found that the projected sales of EV's was somewhat optimistic.


Mick
It’s not overly surprising, Toyotas sales in general are slipping, so if their sales of petrol cars are being squeezed, then EV sales where they aren’t the dominate player will really take a hit.

Mean while in the Market that Toyota is struggling the most eg China BYD has seen Ev sales jump by 30%


Toyota global sales contracting
https://www.reuters.com/business/au...ll-april-led-by-drops-china-japan-2024-05-30/

 
Germany wont be happy.


The bloc’s second-largest car manufacturer, Spain, is looking to attract Chinese investments to develop its EV industry

THE European Union should re-examine its plan to impose additional tariffs on Chinese-made electric vehicles (EV), Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez said during a visit to the Asian nation, underlining simmering EU divisions over the trade measure.

“I have to be blunt and frank with you that we need to reconsider – all of us, not only member states but also the European Commission – our position towards this movement,” Sanchez said on Wednesday (Sep 11) in Kunshan, China.

Such a move would represent a dramatic reversal for EU trade chiefs in Brussels and their supporters such as French President Emmanuel Macron, who have been calling for urgent action to prevent European manufacturers being overwhelmed by state-subsidised competition from China.

If a qualified majority of member states – 15 countries representing at least 65 per cent of the EU’s population – does not block the measures in a binding vote, the European Commission will publish a final regulation on the tariffs by Oct 30. The duties would then remain in effect for five years.
 
Second largest manufacturer??? Hum doubt it
And this is just cheap talk from the Spanish PM imho to get more Asian deals
Individual governments have long lost any power vs the E.C except maybe the German leader and the EC is mostly controlled by the states
 
yes the infrastructure problem was foreseeable

the other problem was these manufacturers aiming at the top end of the market and not the basic city-dweller/user and then adding better models as the infrastructure caught up
 
with wireless electricity currently under research
maybe we can even charge it while we are waiting for the red light?

Tesla is apparently inching closer to launching a wireless charging system, with recently published patents for its version circulating on social media.

 
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