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Electric cars?

Would you buy an electric car?

  • Already own one

    Votes: 10 5.1%
  • Yes - would definitely buy

    Votes: 43 21.7%
  • Yes - preferred over petrol car if price/power/convenience similar

    Votes: 78 39.4%
  • Maybe - preference for neither, only concerned with costs etc

    Votes: 38 19.2%
  • No - prefer petrol car even if electric car has same price, power and convenience

    Votes: 25 12.6%
  • No - would never buy one

    Votes: 14 7.1%

  • Total voters
    198
So you are driving an EV if it is so good, and if you believe this will save the world..
I thank you for your extra ATO contributions
I was xhitting on The Skeptic website. So much else it was crapping on about was bollocks.

I have no idea how they managed to find that EV charging was more costly that ICE fuel. It was either a total lie or a grossly distorted construction.
Fuel prices in UK are savage.
 
The weight of these garbage trucks must be enormous
The thing about garbage trucks and city buses is the huge number of stops they make.

For garbage trucks it's literally a stop outside every home and business, the average travel distance between stops would be just a few metres. For buses it's similar, add up all the bus stops and then other reasons for stopping, eg traffic lights or give way situations, and a city bus is doing an awful lot of stopping and starting whilst covering relatively little distance.

In both those situations regenerative braking ought have huge benefits.

Obviously very different for tour buses that do long distances typically including at least some highway running.
 
maybe, I trust your figure
So can you get an EV Haval equivalent for the price of an Haval+18k?
well firstly thats an $18,000 saving in just the first 7 years / 140,000 km, the savings will continue to grow over the cars life of perhaps 21 years / 500,000 km

Also, Havals range in price up to $45,000+ so there isn't that much difference between some of the Ev's coming out.

And in the current context, do not forget the opportunity cost of the extra $18k for the next 7 years.
With the way some of you guys Trade/ invest thats not worth much . Especially as you don't get to keep that $18,000 for 7 years you immediately have to begin paying it out each week in fuel expenses, and there are other benefits, EG not having to lose your car for 2 days a year to servicing and not having to wait around at service stations for 10 hours a year.

Not to mention if you are commuting on the high way every day, Auto pilot is a pretty sweet feature.
 
It actually is cool to be the early adopter. We all knew the family that was rather first house with a colour TV, first house with a smart fridge, first jousecwith a hybrid.
I was one of the first to own a PC (ZX80).
I agree.

More fun and interesting to be one of the first rather than being the staid penny pincher conservative but that option is an equally valid viewpoint also.

Psychology of the individual I suppose.
 
I thank you for your extra ATO contributions
Like wise with your weekly fuel excise with the price reduction in ev’s many won’t have luxury vehicle tax now, and the tax is only on the amount above the threshold not the full purchase price anyway.

But also, petrol cars pay the luxury vehicle tax too, so not sure what your point is, especially when you are paying fuel excise.
 
It actually is cool to be the early adopter. We all knew the family that was rather first house with a colour TV, first house with a smart fridge, first jousecwith a hybrid.
My initial response was to point out that your upper price figure was incorrect.

Sorry, I have never known anyone to buy the first of any new technology. There were thousands of Teslas in Australia before I purchased - after a long period of research into what I wanted in a car that is most likely the last I will ever buy.

I paid more for this car than I ever had paid before but as the cost was part of the kids’ inheritance I thought “Why not me now rather than them later?”

The son and daughter both agreed and both love to drive it - with Dad again as instructor as he was 40 years ago.
 
I got one of the first batch of Tesla model 3's into the country, after being on a wait list for nearly 3 years while they built the factory and nearly went broke.

I still remember @sptrawler saying that I should cancel my order and get my deposit back because it wasn't looking like Tesla would make it a one stage, HAHAH good time

So far I have put nearly 60,000km on it, and it's going great. It was the most expensive car I have ever owned, the prior car was a 22 year old commodore, that I bought second when it was 6 years old for $15,000. I think the Tesla should exceed the commodores achievements.
 
I'll take credit for that, but was I talking about your model 3, or the Cyber Truck?
 
I'll take credit for that, but was I talking about your model 3, or the Cyber Truck?
Nah it was the Model 3, I think it was when they were having the issues at the factory and they kept postponing it, and all the analyst's were saying they were going to run out of money before the factory ramped up.
 
Nah it was the Model 3, I think it was when they were having the issues at the factory and they kept postponing it, and all the analyst's were saying they were going to run out of money before the factory ramped up.
Yes I must admit I was a critic of Musk in the early days and now I'm a fan, I'm always prepared to concede where I'm wrong and give kudos where they are deserved.
Musk has proven that the impossible can be done, with the right vision, determination and self belief, Starlink, Space X and Tesla vehicles/ batteries proved that and no one can take credit away from him IMO.
 
An EV model made the top selling car list.

 
This IS becoming a real problem.
I noticed someone with a cordless screwdriver, checking out the back tires of an ICE car, parked in an EV space the other day.
I can imagine it now, "hey honey, do yo hear a clicking noise"?
 
In a somewhat surprising move, VW have invested $1billion in US EV maker Rivian, with another $4 billion promised.
It would seem that VW sees something in Rivian that Ford could not.
Just as an aside, during the ten weeks we drove around the US, Rivians outnumbered both the Cybertruck and F150 lightning by some margin, but they have been around longer.
Mick
 
This video from The Driven examines how some other film makers manage to torture figures to "show" it costs more drive an EV and than a Petrol car.

Excellent analysis of all the variables.

 
The story of the first privately funded fast EV charger in this part of WA

It has now been replaced. There are a number of technical issues about the process that are illuminating. As many people have noted technical issues aren't simple - particularly when the technology is very new.
 
Nice, and having the stand alone EV charger run by a diesel generator is just the start, how easy would it be to connect a battery and some solar panels to it to reduce the time that generator has to run, if ever.
 
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