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Electric cars?

Would you buy an electric car?

  • Already own one

    Votes: 10 5.1%
  • Yes - would definitely buy

    Votes: 43 21.7%
  • Yes - preferred over petrol car if price/power/convenience similar

    Votes: 78 39.4%
  • Maybe - preference for neither, only concerned with costs etc

    Votes: 38 19.2%
  • No - prefer petrol car even if electric car has same price, power and convenience

    Votes: 25 12.6%
  • No - would never buy one

    Votes: 14 7.1%

  • Total voters
    198
I can vouch for this article, having owned a Tesla M3 LR since July 2021, and over that period only having to replace wiper blades, cabin filter, and a tyre rotation.

A friend owns a Mercedes EQA, his first yearly service was $1200. When he looked at the invoice, he noticed the list included everything for an ICEV. When he questioned them, they said it was a misprint but reduced the price.

 
The only problem I see for Tesla is home grown, Musk is doing an amazing job and as I said I was sceptical in the early days, also I don't own a Tesla or Tesla shares.

From an historic view, I just can't see him being allowed to keep growing, the big players wont be liking it IMO, X and close manufacturing ties to China, is walking a very thin tightrope in the U.S. IMO

You only have to look at Trump to see how much pressure can be applied.
 

You can use that same analogy for NVIDIA, and possibly a few others.
 
Cybertruck, no right hand drive version to be built. But how hard would it be to do a conversion, especially as there is no steering shaft, it is fly by wire technology that steers it.


 
Plus insurances costs...
 
Plus insurances costs...
Yeah its a matter of time before an underground carpark full of EV's goes up in flames and writes of an apartment block and fair to assume the danger of this increases while they all charging . This is without even addressing the upgrades required in an electrical system to sustain this because if you let one do it you got to let them all so you need a system configured to let them all charge at same time . Its a massive can of worms . Australia is just not ready for full penetration EV
 
Cummins diesel engines, getting in on the transition to clean engines, with a 15L hydrogen truck engine.


A legendary brand has just set a historic milestone with a better-than-electric and much more futuristic fuel. We’re talking about the new 15-liter hydrogen engine, which is so massive, it won’t be destined for cars. Instead, it will decarbonize a transportation sector that has always been questioned for its high pollution, with few alternative fuels.

The development of this engine, being powered by hydrogen fuel cells and without nitrogen oxide emissions, has marked a breakthrough. The new engine with a power rate of 290HP and is intended to surpass the actual diesel and electric powertrains that are currently the market leaders in the field of commercial vehicles.
290 hp and other exciting aspects of this new hydrogen engine from Cummins.
 
From. The Driven


Mick
 
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...


 
I haven't seen a stock take sale for ICEV for years, new car sales must be slow. Sign of tough economic times, or buyers waiting for more EV choices, maybe both -

 

Did you check this story out SP ? Frankly it is so full of xhite it is impossible to know where to start.
The most obvious point is the breathtaking BS on 290 HP !! Wow. How huge (NOT !!) Even a relatively non truckie like me realizes big trucks need far more juice than 290HP.

I don't know which AI or person who made this fluff up but it deserves the BS of the month award.
A quick heads up of truck power and their ratings.

 

Wow 290hp from a 15L engine, that has to be the most inefficient engine design of the last 100 years.
 

Something to add to my earlier comments. Cummins is showing off a new engine which can be fueled with hydrogen, or diesel . So there is something to talk about. Unfortunately the website that quoted the story did a poor job of translating it. In fact after I checked out a few other stories I think the website is just...rubbish ?

 
I'm on limited ships wifi so couldn't really investigate it, but hp output on trucks is much lower than performance vehicles, because they are designed and tuned to give maximum torque at low revs.

So that they can get massive loads moving from stationary, they design them for high torque at low loads which due to things like valve overlap reduces max hp.

I would assume the engine is in the very early stages of development and with H2 they would be very carefull with fuel injection and detonation, therefore it is probable that they have a very conservative tune to keep the heat down.

That is why most haul packs as used on mines are diesel/electric, the diesel drives a generator that then feeds power to the electric motor hub wheels, the electric motors give maximum torque at min revs.

Time will tell if it is BS, but it sounds feasible to me that they will be developing internal combustion diesel replacement engines, but I will defer to your knowledge on the subject.
 
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The worlds biggest maker of EVs reports slowdown​

By Glenn Dyer |

BYD, the world’s biggest maker of electrified vehicles, didn’t escape the fallout from China’s EV price wars in the first quarter of 2024. While sales continue to grow, the first-quarter financials show a noticeable slowdown from the boom at the end of 2023.

The giant this week reported its second-highest on-record sales last month, despite the clear slowdown in sales in its market-leading battery-powered cars. A surge in exports in the month to record levels helped offset that dip and pushed total sales for the first four months of the year to 939,508 units, up more than 23% from the same period in 2023 when China was still emerging from the harsh lockdowns of the two preceding years.

The company said it sold 313,245 new energy vehicles (NEVs) in April, up 49% from the 210,295 sold in April 2023 but only up 3.57% from the 302,459 units sold in March.
March’s total was the second-highest since the record in the boom month of last December when the company sold 341,043 units. April now holds the second-highest sales figure on record, and the company seems confident it will hit new records over the rest of this year.
Interestingly, BYD's sales of plug-in hybrids (called PHEVs in China) were again ahead of the company’s normal strength—pure BEVs (or battery-powered electric vehicles), which surprisingly fell last month.
Passenger BEV sales were 134,465, down 3.9% from March but up 28.8% from April 2023.
But sales of PHEVs were up nearly 10% from March at 177,583 and a massive 69% from a year ago. In April, BYD sold a record 41,011 vehicles in overseas markets, surpassing March's previous record of 38,434. That's up 176% year-on-year and 6.7% from March.

Analysts said the lift in BYD’s sales of PHEVs (which are rechargeable hybrids, unlike the regenerative types Toyota sells in their millions and do not need charging) tells us the company is selling into markets where there are few recharging stations.

Earlier this week, BYD’s first-quarter revenue and earnings took an obvious hit from the sales war costs and a sluggish start to the year for sales. It reported revenue of 124.94 billion yuan ($US17.25 billion) in the first quarter, up 4% year-on-year but down nearly 31% from the fourth quarter of 2023. BYD's net profit in the first quarter was 4.57 billion yuan (around $US635 million), up 10.6% year-on-year but down 47.3% from the fourth quarter of 2023.

BYD's first-quarter NEV sales were 626,263 vehicles, up 13.4% year-on-year, but down a third from the fourth quarter of 2023.
 
Very true, a lot of people have trouble getting their heads around that fact, yet it is one of the most important facts in enery conversion.




13l diesel creating 400+ horsepower

 

The story itself wasn't BS SP. I checked it out and Cummins is certainly developing a motor that can run on hydrogen as well as diesel
Your right of course about trucks being more focused on torque rather than outright power as such.

I was commenting on the report from ecoticias. It seems totally garbled.
I don't claim to have any special knowledge about truck engines. I can read though and pick up glaring inconsistencies which invite checking out.
Cummins is a an ICE engine manufacturer that is trying to keep its plant solvent in the face of movements to electric power. No surprise it is trying to pivot to Hydrogen.
 
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