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Electric cars?

Would you buy an electric car?

  • Already own one

    Votes: 10 5.1%
  • Yes - would definitely buy

    Votes: 43 21.7%
  • Yes - preferred over petrol car if price/power/convenience similar

    Votes: 78 39.4%
  • Maybe - preference for neither, only concerned with costs etc

    Votes: 38 19.2%
  • No - prefer petrol car even if electric car has same price, power and convenience

    Votes: 25 12.6%
  • No - would never buy one

    Votes: 14 7.1%

  • Total voters
    198
This could shake up the market a bit, depending on price, but PHEV utes would become popular IMO especially if the have V2L ability.
The flexibility would be very attractive for the tradie who does the weekend camping trip, or the farmer who lives 20km out of town.

 
This could shake up the market a bit, depending on price, but PHEV utes would become popular IMO especially if the have V2L ability.
The flexibility would be very attractive for the tradie who does the weekend camping trip, or the farmer who lives 20km out of town.

It does look at least a little bit better than a cybertruck.
Saw one in the flesh in Palm Springs today.
Looks as ugly in real life as it does in a picture.
 

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Some like to knock Tesla, forgetting that Tesla was the one that brought EVs to life and built a charging network that works. "While other carmakers were lobbying governments to subsidise a national charging network, Tesla simply went ahead and built one for itself."

 
In an outcome that will surprise no one, EV charger maker, Tritium, has gone into receivership.
Another nail in the coffin of that great myth about small nimble technology companies.
The shell will be taken up by a foreign entity who will build the chargers and sell them back to us.
Mick
 
From oil Oilprice.com

Europe’s new car sales fell in March for the first time this year, dragged down by a decline in electric vehicle (EV) registrations and the timing of the Easter holidays, the European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association, ACEA, said on Thursday.

All new car sales in the European Union car market dropped by 5.2% year-on-year to 1 million units in March, while passenger vehicle sales in Europe including non-EU members such as the UK and Norway fell by 2.8%, ACEA’s data showed.

In the EU, new electric vehicle sales slumped by 11.3% to 134,397 units in March, led by a major 29% decline in EV sales in the biggest European market, Germany.

Car sales in Norway, where most new vehicle registrations are EVs, plunged from over 19,000 cars in March 2023 to 9,750 units last month.

As EV sales fell in the EU, their market share shrank from 13.9% in March 2023 to 13% in the same month of 2024.

Among the three largest BEV markets, Belgium (+23.8%) and France (+10.9%) enjoyed double-digit increases, while Germany faced a significant decrease of 28.9%, ACEA said.

The EU saw a total of 332,999 new battery-electric cars registered during the first quarter of 2024, up by 3.8% compared to the same quarter last year.

Despite the general market decline, hybrid-electric car registrations in the EU jumped by 12.6% in March 2024, with France and Italy driving the increase. The share of hybrid car sales rose to 29% of the new sales last month, up from 24.4% in March 2023.

The slowdown in EV sales in recent months has not been limited to Europe.

Tesla, for example, saw its deliveries slump in the first quarter for the first annual drop since the start of the pandemic in 2020, missing analyst forecasts by a mile in a sign that even price cuts haven’t been able to stave off an increasingly heated competition on the EV market.

Mick
 
Any realistic fact based analysis knows that current lithium based battery can not be enough to switch ice to ev just on mining costs and availability, but this could be a way out:
Sodium is abondant, cheap, available in any salt water inc sea
I did not dwell in the energy density vs synfuels or lithium but that could bring us cheap really fast charging batteries..and solve a lot of the current dilemma where narrative is so detached from reality
EV but also green power
Let's see where it goes
 
When walking back to our hotel the last night, I stopped at a charging station to admire some of the vehicles.
The first one was a Mach E.
The male POC said it was a company car, and the company only bought EV,s.
He said he really liked driving it, but like so many others have noted, the problem is in the charging algorithm.
The charger at this location he said charges 10 bucks before you even connect.
The problem is he said, it may drop out several times before he gets to 80%, and each time there was a 10 buck charge. Because his company paid for it, he did not care, but he sure as hell would not be swapping his personal ICE car for an EV or even a hybrid.
When I asked about not charging beyond 80%, he said that last 20% takes a long time, and if there are others waiting, they can get a little angsty.( that was not the expression he used, but It will be close enough).
He also mentioned that because of the distances he drove between business sites, he woul be very reluctant to let the batteries go below 20%, so in effect his personal range was only around 60% of full range.
We talked about EV,s and charging comparisons in OZ, and there seemed to be quite a few similarities.
His final comment to was that “My husband wanted to get another EV, but I said no way Babe”.
Lucky it was dark, so he could not see the look on my face.
Oh the other thing that really made him angry, was the fact that the boss of the company although mandating EV,s for his underlings, he himself had a chauffered Mercedes.
Mick
 
Came across this website yesterday. First time I have seen a home EV charging option that didn't carry some very serious figures.
Customer reviews appear very supportive as well. The offer excellent detail about how the customers used the product. I don't believe they are fakes..

 
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I bought an EVSE charger based in Sydney, easier to deal with than a company in China.

 
I know it triggers you, but the answer is to use the Tesla super charger network, it’s just better with none of the problems you mention above.

I have found some annoying features with Petrol stations in the USA, I have noticed that some Petrol stations put a pending transaction on your card of up to $100, even if you only end up putting $20 in, 6 days later the charge corrects itself, and if you decide to use cash instead you have to walk in, line up hand over a $50 note, walk back out fill up, walk back in line up, and collect your change.

But, the answer to the guy waiting around for the last 20% is just not to charge to 100%. Most people should be charging at home, and only need to charge enough to get home, or to the next charger.
 
This is another problem that sounds simple, but isn't and only one side of the issue has been presented.
The reporter should have probably got in touch with the strata body, as to why they wont grant permission, maybe the building electrical supply is marginal, or the network supplier wont allow any more load on their feeder supply.

If they grant permission to one owner, they probably have to be in a position to grant it to all and maybe the buildings electrical system isn't up to taking the extra load. Who knows.

 
MG is expanding its EV model range.

I have driven an MG, and found that for the budget conscious or those on a low income, the MG is a good option. The build quality is decent, the added options are good. However, the compatibility with Australian roads, especially mountainous roads, is not the best.

Potential EV buyers need to look past the initial price, and instead take a few for a decent road test before committing to a purchase. And check the charging options.

 
Yes a friend of mine bought his wife one, he drives a model 3.
Long story short, he is selling the MG and buying the Mini EV, he says his wife found it too big, but I didn't push the topic.
Maybe after he gets the Mini, I will ask him how they compare.
I don't think the next generation of EV's are far away, now the early adopters have them, the manufacturers have to convince the sceptical so I'm expecting a lot of improvements.
 
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