JohnDe
La dolce vita
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Btw @JohnDe how much was the cost of your home charger?
Genuinely interested as I usually cost it at roughly one year of EV savings (petrol,service and rego savings)
A car is an expense, I don’t think any one is saying that you will recover the full cost of a car, and you don’t need to because it’s an expense.No one in their right mind would buy a car as an investment, they will always be an expensed item in the balance sheet.
Sure people will point to half million dollar phase 111 Falcon GTHO, but you have to buy them and put them on blocks for ever.
You would likely be better off if you had bought the equivalent amount of BHP shares and kept them the same time.
The capital cost of the BYD was pretty much the same if we upgraded the wifes CX5.
The CX5 was the top of the range with AWD, heated and cooled seats, real leather, climate control blah blah blah.
The BYD is FWD rather than AWD, and does not have heated or cooled seats, but does have all the other blah blah blah stuff.
But I very much doubt we will recover the capital cost or opportunity cost of this car or any other car I have ever bought.
Mick
After my self inflicted debacle last Sunday, I now note that the NRMA and other road side assitance orgs may come to my rescue.Yesterday we drove the BYD to visit children and grandchildren in the south eastern suburbs.
It was a there and back trip of about 440 kms.
Nominally, the BYD range of 420 kms means its quick charge short, but recent experience suggests that it would be significantly less than that, probably closer to 300 to 320 kms travelling with two on board at the 110km speed limit on the Hume freeway.
So while the rest of the family partied on, I made a quick 3 km detour to a local council parking area that had four charging slots, two with a cable, and two without cable. Only one was available for use, the other three all being occupied by Teslas. One was a Tesla Y model, and the owner gave me an enthusiastic tour of it. He did not seem at all interested in me returning the favour and showing him the BYD.
So, after about an hour, I had added about 10% of charge which i thought wold give me about a 40kms buffer up my sleeve for the return home.
My original thoughts were to drop into the Cooper street BP station, which nominally has 4 charging stations, but when I checked the Evie Ap, only one was working, and that one seemed to be frequently full, as it was when I drove past it on the way down , and the way back.
The fall back position was to detour about 15 kms to the maxi chargers in Avenel.
As we approached the decision point where I had to either detour to Avenel or continue the 70 odd kms to home, we still showed 34 kms of buffer, so i decided to just keep going - it was dark, raining, and two of the passengers wanted to watch the tennis on TV. Well that came back to bite me.
Around 12 kms from home , I got the " you need to charge right now" message, and we still had about 15 kms of range showing.
At the 6 km mark from home, the range suddenly plummeted to zero from the 10 kms that was showing.
In a couple of the test reviews from America for the Rivian and F250 Lightning, both of them had a reserve when it gets to 0 that gives another 12 to 15 kms of emergency, so I thought all would be well. Not so with the BYD.
It shifted itself to Neutral, and just stopped the engine and we coasted to a halt with the lights of the outskirts of town almost within spitting distance. A quick phone call, and a mate came to rescue us and bought a petrol driven generator with him.
Unfortunately, the 1.7 KVA genny kept cutting out as the load on the granny charger was too high.
So we got a lift back home, I grabbed the diesel ute, struggled to get it loaded it up with my 5kva diesel genny, and retraced our steps.
The bigger genny took about about 45 mins to get us enough to limp home, but only just.
Lesson learnt, highway driving decimates range. When in doubt, recharge.
As a secondary observation, a lot of the charging stations shown in plugshare are painfully slow, and the ones I have attended so far , do not charge at the max rate if all the stations are occupied.
So much to learn with running an EV , especially if you live in a regional area.
Mick
MickNRMA is to equip two of its patrol cars with 4.8kWh battery packs to help out electric driving members who have run out of charge in their EVs.
The motoring and roadside assistance company says the 4.8kWh lithium-ion battery packs will be able to provide 1km of charge every two minutes. After as little as 10 minutes of charging, a vehicle will have 5km of range to get to the nearest charging station.
The two NRMA patrol vans with the battery packs will be located in Sydney and Canberra.
We are seeing more and more EV drivers call us for assistance so it’s clear the need for this kind of support is increasing,” Tim Bryant, a roadside assistant driver, was quoted as saying in there NRMA statement.
“We want to provide outstanding service to our Members no matter what car they drive. We know one of the biggest deterrents for those looking to purchase an electric vehicle is range anxiety – will they run out of charge far from charging facilities.”
5km to the nearest charging station ROL..city peopleAfter my self inflicted debacle last Sunday, I now note that the NRMA and other road side assitance orgs may come to my rescue.
From The Driven
Mick
The very reason I bought the Kona, I had borrowed a friends Ionic 5 and it was using 20kW/100km on the motorway.After my self inflicted debacle last Sunday, I now note that the NRMA and other road side assitance orgs may come to my rescue.
From The Driven
Mick
The 4.8 kWh battery could supply you with a lot more than 5km of range, the charging time would just be extended, their 5km number was just based on 10mins of charging.5km to the nearest charging station ROL..city people
I think i'd still go with a hybrid until the charging network is established.The 4.8 kWh battery could supply you with a lot more than 5km of range, the charging time would just be extended, their 5km number was just based on 10mins of charging.
Or go with Tesla, where the charging network is pretty much established.I think i'd still go with a hybrid until the charging network is established.
Maybe.Or go with Tesla, where the charging network is pretty much established.
Cyber Truck, but it’s not available in australia yet, but it only cost $100 deposit to pre order.Maybe.
My preference at the moment is a SUV type vehicle with some off road capability.
Not sure if Tesla makes anything in that area at present.
She was the one who wanted to get home to watch the tennis, so she did not say much.I'm yet to do a long distance trip in the Kona, so I haven't had the experience yet, how did the wife take it.
Yep, one of those say nothing moments, if she is wrong say nothing, if your wrong apologies.She was the one who wanted to get home to watch the tennis, so she did not say much.
But if looks could kill .....
Mick
Spot on and why I decided to buy the pure E.V.An interesting take on the pros and cons of PHEV's.
Skip to 5 mins to avoid the ads.
Yep, one of those say nothing moments, if she is wrong say nothing, if your wrong apologies.
I'm always in trouble for being paranoid about things going wrong and being over cautious, funny how we've travelled all over Australia for 50 years and never been stuck. ?
Tesla cybertruck is still vapourware, they say retail deliveries will not start till early 2024 now, then you have to wait for RHD versions to kick in.Maybe.
My preference at the moment is a SUV type vehicle with some off road capability.
Not sure if Tesla makes anything in that area at present.
You may be better off getting an offroad capable vehicle you like, and paying someone to convert it to electric.
No way, I'm not that keen. I'll stick to diesel before that, I like the way they drive, lots of torque.
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