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Electric cars?

Would you buy an electric car?

  • Already own one

    Votes: 10 5.1%
  • Yes - would definitely buy

    Votes: 43 21.7%
  • Yes - preferred over petrol car if price/power/convenience similar

    Votes: 78 39.4%
  • Maybe - preference for neither, only concerned with costs etc

    Votes: 38 19.2%
  • No - prefer petrol car even if electric car has same price, power and convenience

    Votes: 25 12.6%
  • No - would never buy one

    Votes: 14 7.1%

  • Total voters
    198
I guess people are finding out that the green sky is further away than they thought.

Full marks for the intent, but maybe not enough homework done beforehand.

Who says only Labor stuffs up implementation?
 
Catch up ?

Keep up yourself.

You are confusing market share/% new sales with % of the existing fleet. Only the % of the existing fleet is relevant to the impact on the electricity grid, not the % of new vehicle sales which are EVs (that figure, which you are using, is completely irrelevant to the current situation in this context).

But, hey, even if it was 5 or 10% of the current fleet being EVs already, the point would still be entirely relevant - people are already being told not to charge their cars due to infrastructure and supply issues, and the plan is to increase the total fleet percentage to multiples of that figure of EVs. Even if your figure was relevant and correct, we'd not be looking at a fractional increase in the number of EVs, we'd still be looking at multiples, and you didn't even try to address what would still be the relevant issue, but with the actual figures, it's much worse.

If you're going to tell someone else to catch up, make sure you're not currently way behind them.
 
@wayneL

Here is a video showing some of the options for charging trucks (and could be used for trains).

As you can see there is even options for charging the trucks and trains on the go.

As the trucks drive along their route back to their unload areas they can charge by utilising over head wires to continually top up on each cycle, trains could use this concept in the crossing the Nullarbor situation you were worried about, it wouldn’t be to hard to set up some charging locations along the Nullarbor line with a few kilometres of over head wires every so often.

 
That would make more sense to me, if achievable financially, and most importantly, sustainable in a maintenance sense.
 
That would make more sense to me, if achievable financially, and most importantly, sustainable in a maintenance sense.
Once set up it’s probably cheaper than paying for diesel, especially with the added cost of diesel trucks to deliver the diesel to the remote area.

In Germany they have put power lines over a motorway so trucks driving down the freeway can charge.

The possibilities are almost endless, but those scarecrow videos you like to watch will only show you negative side.

 
They are not scarecrow videos. They highlight technical limitations of battery powered EVs *in the Australian context*.

IOW unless the political landscape here substantively changes with regards to power, it is unlikely a meaningful large scale conversion to EVs will be achievable.

What is achievable overseas is very much less so here.
 
Thanks @wayneL

Context is everything.

Some in the Ville have Teslas, I do not envy them.

Oh, I'm in the market for a new pre-owned Bentley, preferably an Arnage T as my man Švejk's vision is not the best and a change to a familiar model would suit him better. Should any of your horsey clients have one a laying about I'd appreciate it if you let them know.

EV's I am very much in favour of for the metropolitan masses travelling from their little boxes to work advancing the value of my stocks, but as for a quick trip from here to Darwin or Cooloongatta they are totally insufficient.

And Tesla owners appear to be so "common", new money, "colourful characters", not that I am a snob.

gg
 

First words of a snob "not that I am a snob."

My business is automotive related. Talk about EVs coming on line has been around for 20 years, the industry has been sending out information, news and conduction seminars intermittently since then. In the past few years there has been a marked increased in education courses & licensing certificates.

About 6 years ago we decided to look into purchasing an EV for in house testing and familiarisation, due to the increase interest and questions from customers and clients. At the time there wasn't much choice and our first look was at the Hyundai, but it wasn't quite ready, we put the idea on the back burner.

A few years back the Tesla M3 came to Australia, the pricing wasn't too bad and while we watched the price dropped. After some initial assessment and business discussion it was decided that the Tesla M3 was, at that time, the best EV for us and our crew to study and gain experience from.

With about 14 months of ownership we have had a lot of fun learning from it. We have driven country kilometers and traveled interstate with it, pulled things off and studied the parts we need to know about.

It always makes me laugh when people start telling me about the problems with an EV and how bad they are, without having driven one.

EVs are still in the early stages, about where ICEV were when adventurous people drove them into desolate places and created competitions like the Red X Trial.

 
New models coming -

UPDATED: August 30, 2022


 
I guess people are finding out that the green sky is further away than they thought.

Full marks for the intent, but maybe not enough homework done beforehand.

Who says only Labor stuffs up implementation?
A classic case of politics getting in the way of practicality.

Moving to an EV bus fleet = good idea.

Doing it by 2030 = only if the start date was a long time before now.

Politicians fall into two categories - those who won't get off their *** and do anything and those who are "bull at a gate" and want it done yesterday. Both fail.
 

An Australian company building batteries in Australia -

 
Another great video. The Electric Viking is pretty gungho about this factory, lets hope the excitement is matched or better still exceeded by reality.
The only question i might have about the location of the factory is that Tomago is surrounded on three sides by the waters of the Hunter river, which had major floods three times this year.
Maybe by the time it gets that close to the coast, the flooding is mitigated by its proximity to the sea.
Mick
 

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