Electric cars?

[Value Collector]

Not the current panels and tech. But I'm definitely sure there's a few team around the world working on it though.

If panels could become a lot more efficient maybe, and a lot cheaper.

There is an ev that has a solar panel on the roof, But you would have to have it parked in the sun for about a month to get a full charge.

 

[Value Collector]

By my calculations that's around $8 per 100km - happy to be corrected.

Around $6.5 per 100km by my calculation.

But that’s super expensive, Tesla supercharges are free if you get the model s or x, and be 30cents per kw, but this is not representative of running costs, eg as I said most people we be charging at home, using offpeak power or maybe even solar panels.

Agl even have a $1 per day charging plan, that’s unlimited driving for $7 a week.

 

[Value Collector]

I wonder at the effect of super fast (150 kw/300kw ) charges on the battery packs of EV cars ? That is a lot of energy going in very quickly.

It’s not as much as you think, the “big battery pack” in cars is just made up of many small batteries.

The battery packs are wired to charge all the small batteries simultaneously, just like your phone battery can charge in 40mins with no issue, all of the small batteries in the pack can charge in 40mins, if you spread the charge across them equally.

You don’t have to blast any individual cell if you have engineered he battery correctly for fast charging.

 

[luutzu]

If panels could become a lot more efficient maybe, and a lot cheaper.

There is an ev that has a solar panel on the roof, But you would have to have it parked in the sun for about a month to get a full charge.

In the future. The glorious future comrade.

But personally, if I were to run the world, I'd favoured mass transit.

Beside logistics, freight and the trades, most people do not do a lot of travelling that they'd need a private car.

But that's another story.

 

[Smurf1976]

Wait, you can't leave a cable kit charging in the street like that can you?

It’s already done in France and seems to work.

Cars parked on the street plugged in to charge overnight.

 

[qldfrog]

Noticed the presence of charger in many places in France even in the most remote places in the middle of nowhere,i mean it.i was so surprised i took a picture.i believe a move by this dying village to attract tourism.anyway..
Yet i do not remember seing many electric cars there
Here, in Shenzhen China, electric cars everywhere, taxis buses, mopeds,any single or 2 wheels contraption you can think of
And i have no clue where they are recharged.probably home

 

[Joules MM1]

flying cars



January 24, 2019 / 8:21 AM / Updated 2 hours ago

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...6903&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

 

[Value Collector]

In the future. The glorious future comrade.

But personally, if I were to run the world, I'd favoured mass transit.

Beside logistics, freight and the trades, most people do not do a lot of travelling that they'd need a private car.

But that's another story.

There is definately a place for public transport, and many places to expand it, but I couldn’t do without my personal car, There is just to much freedom to be had.

Maybe a public fleet of on demand point to point autonomous vehicles might replace personal ownership of cars, but buses and trams won’t.

If I could afford a private jet, you wouldn’t see me on a qantas flight that’s for sure.

So given that a car is cheap, and I can afford one, you won’t see me on a bus, except maybe when traveling overseas.

But I do catch the train sometimes when I know I will be to drunk to drive.

 

[Smurf1976]

Noticed the presence of charger in many places in France even in the most remote places in the middle of nowhere

Riding (I suppose that's the correct term?) a Segway in Austria and it came with an extension lead "just in case".

I thought that was a tad pointless, in the event the battery ran flat where was I going to plug it in and recharge it?

Well I noticed that there were indeed quite a few power points in public places I could have used if need be. In practice no issue though since they have a pretty decent range.

PS - Never ride one of those up a 45 degree slope trying to push it to the limit. The machine copes yes but if one wheel slips then you'll know it oh yes you will. I recall it very well - me flying backwards through the air and being overtaken by the machine heading down the hill. Ended up lying flat on my back looking at the sky - no injuries, just some free entertainment for others in the park watching.

 

[SirRumpole]

There is definately a place for public transport, and many places to expand it, but I couldn’t do without my personal car, There is just to much freedom to be had.

Any sign of your Tesla yet ?

 

[sptrawler]

Any sign of your Tesla yet ?

I was thinking of asking the same question, they must be getting close.

 

[sptrawler]

Riding (I suppose that's the correct term?) a Segway in Austria and it came with an extension lead "just in case".

I thought that was a tad pointless, in the event the battery ran flat where was I going to plug it in and recharge it?

Well I noticed that there were indeed quite a few power points in public places I could have used if need be. In practice no issue though since they have a pretty decent range.

PS - Never ride one of those up a 45 degree slope trying to push it to the limit. The machine copes yes but if one wheel slips then you'll know it oh yes you will. I recall it very well - me flying backwards through the air and being overtaken by the machine heading down the hill. Ended up lying flat on my back looking at the sky - no injuries, just some free entertainment for others in the park watching.

At least you had the guts to ride one.
I was offered a ride and chickened out, two replaced knees and one replaced hip. I thought, if I come of that thing, they would be putting my bits in a garbage bag.

 

[Joules MM1]

flying cars



January 24, 2019 / 8:21 AM / Updated 2 hours ago

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...6903&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

 

[qldfrog]

At the bottom of a residential building in Shenzhen today..
Basically afraid of people free charging

 

[DB008]

I saw a great Youtube video recently talking about ICE (Internal Combustion Engines) vs EV (Electric Vehicles) trends and forecasts. Exactly what this thread is about.

Yes, it only the opinion of 2 people, but it was really good to get other people's opinions. I recommend watching it

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This is a screenshot from the above cast

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[basilio]

Very interesting. I think the question about the future of mechanics is significant. There is far less to go wrong with an electric car. In fact one of the problems for manufacturers will be the ongoing loss of revenue from spare part sales as ICE cars decrease in the market place.

 

[sptrawler]

Very interesting. I think the question about the future of mechanics is significant. There is far less to go wrong with an electric car. In fact one of the problems for manufacturers will be the ongoing loss of revenue from spare part sales as ICE cars decrease in the market place.

This is a major issue, that I think the car manufacturers and Governments are very aware of, not only mechanics but radiator, gearbox, oil suppliers, coolant suppliers.

Another issue that hasn't been mentioned yet is, when autonomous vehicles vehicles are fully functional, cars will no longer need to be made of metal.
There wont be accidents, therefore the safety requirement reduces considerably and autonomous, electric vehicles could quite easily be made from reinforced recycled plastic.

Also when self driving cars become the norm, those who live in a City, probably wouldn't need a car.
They could probably pay an annual fee and just call up a car.
The car arrives, takes you to you work or where ever, you get out the car. It waits for the next nearby call, a bit like a more efficient Uber.
Interesting times coming. First step 5G coverage.

 

[Value Collector]

Very interesting. I think the question about the future of mechanics is significant. There is far less to go wrong with an electric car. In fact one of the problems for manufacturers will be the ongoing loss of revenue from spare part sales as ICE cars decrease in the market place.

The demand for mechanics will slowly decrease, and so will the supply.

The market will take care of its self.

 

[Value Collector]

Any sign of your Tesla yet ?

Not due till the end of the year.

Tesla is focusing on left hand drive vehicles first.

They have been making loads deliveries in the USA, Canada and some other countries, But Australia will be at the tail end, not to mention there was 400,000 orders infront of me, and at 5000 cars per week, that order book takes some time to work through.

 

[Smurf1976]

autonomous, electric vehicles could quite easily be made from reinforced recycled plastic.

But hopefully not in any way like the Trabant which was indeed made of plastic.

It's a former East German car. Lots of fun to drive, in a strange way, since nothing works the same way it works in any other car. It has no "features" of any sort, the engine is a two cylinder job about 600cc and it's a two stroke.

Best of all, the fuel tank is conveniently mounted under the bonnet directly behind the engine. In the event that you did have an accident (not out of the question given the brakes aren't particularly effective) you'd be wanting to get out of the car real quick I'd think.

Lots of fun though.