There is nothing available, or on the Horizon that will fit all the criteria (at least not an EV).Have you and your wife modified your list of requirements?
As I recall some of your requirements were
AWD.
300+ range,
service centre nearby and
price.
From the Polster site I can only see an option for FWD (Front Wheel Drive) at $83,000 for the long range. I'm guessing that the AWD would be close to six figures, when and if available for Australia.
Has the dealer given you different information to what is on the web site?
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The link https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-ne...-off-2022-mg-zs-ev-vs-zs-petrol-running-costsInteresting article i read this morning about EV vs ICE on the MG cost wise
With current (high ) price for petrol and based on city driving..most EV favorable, you break even against ICE in 16y..obviously not counting return on extra money for 16y or considering the state of your battery in 16y.
Do money wise with the EV, not there yet.
I would like to redo the computation based on free power: having retired, i could keep an EV loaded on free PV power at home around lunchtime.
If i find the article back , i will do the computation.
With free power, you get around 1900$ a year extra run cost for the ICE vs EV or 10y+ before recovering the extra EVcost.
Choices can be manipulated thru jacking up rego & fuel taxes until you no longer have a choice.You have to remember guys, no one is making you buy an E.V, same as no one is making you buy a mobile phone or anything else it's called choice.lol
Geez 16 years puts a damper on things. I was starting to warm to the idea until then.
Also a lot of people point out the rising fuel costs and act like electricity costs haven't risen dramatically in the last few years.
After driving 1700+km through two states starting Friday morning and getting home Monday night, I just added up the cost and came up with $131.51 And I wasn't driving with economy in mind.
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Choices can be manipulated thru jacking up rego & fuel taxes until you no longer have a choice.
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u break even against ICE in 16y..obviously not counting return on extra money for 16y or considering the state of your battery in 16y.
Do money wise with the EV, not there yet.
So still not worthwhile $ wise even with petrol above $2 a litre
Even thats a choice, you can dig in and fight it, but whether that changes the outcome is debatable, but I agree it will be forced on people.Choices can be manipulated thru jacking up rego & fuel taxes until you no longer have a choice.
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To avoid taking this thread off the EV subject I've posted a detailed comment with charts and actual real operational detail from today (Sunday) here:Well I will let @Smurf1976 explain it.
But I will say if it is cheaper and more efficient to run the renewables, why have the coal generators at all, I'm sure they don't want to operate them.
I charge mine at home using my solar power, my cost of power I generate using my solar is about 2 cents per KWH locked in for the life of my solar system, with no increases ever.Geez 16 years puts a damper on things. I was starting to warm to the idea until then.
Also a lot of people point out the rising fuel costs and act like electricity costs haven't risen dramatically in the last few years.
The thing is, if someone wants to spend $100k on a very good diesel 4X4 that is fine and they will probably get a lot of enjoyment out of it. I'm sure you have a completely different lifestyle and holidays than they do, who gets the most enjoyment out of their choices, is very subjective.I charge mine at home using my solar power, my cost of power I generate using my solar is about 2 cents per KWH locked in for the life of my solar system, with no increases ever.
So that means when I charge using my solar system it’s equal to buying petrol for about 3cents a litre, but hey I have some oil wells in my investment portfolio feel free to keep handing those $50’s and $100’s over at the petrol station, it will keep my dividends flowing and the tax coffers full.
Yep, and all that is fine, I was responding to him being worried about electricity price increases vs petrol price increase, as I said I actually have oil wells in my portfolio, so I don’t mind a bit if people choose to drive petrol or diesel cars.The thing is, if someone wants to spend $100k on a very good diesel 4X4 that is fine and they will probably get a lot of enjoyment out of it. I'm sure you have a completely different lifestyle and holidays than they do, who gets the most enjoyment out of their choices, is very subjective.
There isn't a one size fits all with this IMO, your Tesla probably couldn't do the holidays an outback tourer wants to do and you probably don't want to do basic outback touring.
So common ground is difficult.
Iron, not true?Not true. Telsa have a higher resale value compared to a petrol equivelent car. I base that on selling every 2-3 years. You save a lot more on maitenance costs with EV i.e no major services i.e oil , filters , timing belts , ect vs electric. You also save huge amount on buying petrol vs electricity for km covered plus discount regoes in some states. I think charging at some places is also free atm.
Polestar did not see this coming:Polestar is getting popular.
"Due to high demand, we have sold out of current cars in Europe and Australia. As a result, we will close the Configurator for new configured orders in these markets for the time being. We are working to take in new configured car orders and enable the Configurator as soon as we can," a statement from Polestar Australia reads.Polestar 2 orders paused amid strong demand
You can no longer order a custom-built Polestar 2 electric sedan – though pre-built cars are available in the meantime, and factory orders are expected to re-open in a few weeks' time.www.drive.com.au
In the meantime, buyers in Australia can order one of the "pre-configured" cars already in stock. Polestar told Drive last month as many as 349 pre-configured cars would be available to buy – though as of publishing, the company's website only lists five vehicles available to order immediately.
The cessation of new orders in Australia comes as the Swedish-Chinese brand signs a deal with rental car giant Hertz, which will see it supply 65,000 Polestar 2 sedans over the next five years – with the first joining the Australian fleet in late 2022.
Labor could use given their so called blue collar base:
Thus far for people in regional and rural Australia EV's are unrealistic due to high mileage needs and lack of charging. The prices quoted are out of peoples reach.Polestar did not see this coming:
“But we’re a launch market here in Australia, and it’s really important that we do have volumes secured for our launch. We are working very hard with our production and logistics team to minimise any risks of supply being short of what we expect,” she said.“At this stage, we don’t see any supply issues. Everything is on track for the volumes we’re planning,” said Polestar Australia managing director, Samantha Johnson.Polestars are not particularly cheap, so it goes to show there is a segment of our car market that has no need for incentives. Instead, they are icing on a cake that you might be lucky enough to be offered a slice.
Speaking of incentives, the ACT has one which I reckon federal Labor could use given their so called blue collar base:
"In the ACT we've put those [incentive] mechanisms in place; that $15,000 interest free loan [via the sustainable household scheme] includes second-hand electric vehicles, as does the free rego for two years," the ACT Minister for Climate Change and Sustainability, Mr Rattenbury said.Instead Labor has these, the latter of which favours employers more than workers.
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