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Electric cars?

Would you buy an electric car?

  • Already own one

    Votes: 10 5.1%

  • Yes - would definitely buy

    Votes: 43 21.7%

  • Yes - preferred over petrol car if price/power/convenience similar

    Votes: 78 39.4%

  • Maybe - preference for neither, only concerned with costs etc

    Votes: 38 19.2%

  • No - prefer petrol car even if electric car has same price, power and convenience

    Votes: 25 12.6%

  • No - would never buy one

    Votes: 14 7.1%
  • Total voters
    198
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I am not sure if it sends that message, but it might.

But you can check the temperature of the Car using your phone, and you can vent the windows using the phone.


 
Right so there's so much to that that is clearly a waste of my time but this bit here is really emblematic of the whole thing:

When has anyone, ever, in all of smartphone history, not taken their phone with them when they've parked their car and gone to do whatever? People want to have their phones on them so much that they'll carry a charging brick around rather than just leave it behind. Even ignoring that, they'll bring the flat phone with them simply out of theft paranoia.

In other words, if your phone is flat, you don't leave it in the car, you plug it into a charging brick and bring the whole lot with you so you can still use the thing at the cafe or restaurant or wherever you're going. Hell, you bring it with you even if you don't have a charging brick so that nobody can pinch it.

Nobody (with a brain) is ever going to use this feature.



Just imagine the conversation in the restaurant:

"Hey wife X, send friend Y a message and see how far away they are"

"I can't, my phone's in the car charging"

"Oh... Wait, you don't have a charging brick?"


You can see how stupid leaving your phone in the car to charge vs just bringing a charging brick with you is now, right?



You're clearly just looking at these features and going "oh well they're cool" without actually thinking about their use or not. Leaving your phone in the car to charge is simply something that nobody with a brain would ever do, same as I would never park my car in the direct sun on a searing 40 degree day for any significant period of time, and once it's in the shade, the actual temperature of the interior itself is a virtual irrelevance because it isn't heat that kills interiors.

It was the same with the whole "park & charge with the solar panels" thing - seemed cool until a bit of thought was actually put into it and everyone realised how little power solar panels actually capture, why would you pay more for that power than your own wall socket at home (as the shopping centre would just use it itself otherwise), etc etc.

These "features" you're talking about are solutions in search of problems. There's lots of reasons to buy an electric vehicle, but these aren't it.
 

Well here is a true funny story that shows thats not true... actually just 2 days ago I was mowing the grass at some units that I own, and my phone battery went dead.

So I put my phone in the car to charge while I finished mowing and watering, Then about 15 minutes later I hear the Teslas horn honk, turns out my wife was trying to call me and obviously I wasn't answering the phone, so she checked the location of the Tesla, Knew I was mowing the lawn nearby and she used her app to honk the horn, which alerted me to the fact she was probably trying to call and I went back to the car where my phone now had charged a bit saw her missed call and messages, and called her.

So again, just another little benefit of the over all package that it probably over looked until you are living with it, I was able to charge the phone, without the phone overheating in the car, and my wife could still indirectly communicate with me.

same as I would never park my car in the direct sun on a searing 40 degree day for any significant period of time
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The temperature can be under 30 and the interior of the car will still soar well over 60, but you do you, I think others would clearly see the benefits I have explained, no point continuing the convocation with you.
 
See, you've proven my point.

If you'd put the phone on a charging brick in your pocket you could have just answered it immediately rather than going through all that dicking about.
The temperature can be under 30 and the interior of the car will still soar well over 60, but you do you, I think others would clearly see the benefits I have explained, no point continuing the convocation with you.
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Nope, park the car out of the sun and the car will be the exact same temperature as the air as there's no other heat source.

We're arguing about thermodynamics. It's not a matter of opinion, you're just wrong.
 
over9k said:
I don't understand the point of "cabin overheat mode" when no person or dog is in the car. What is the point? To make the floor mats more comfortable?
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There's a definite point for those who are in and out of a car all day for work purposes and for whom the car is their office and lunch room as well as being a mode of transport.

Been there, done that sort of work in the past. If it was miserably cold or raining then used to idle the engine so as to run the heater whilst having lunch - only trouble is by the time it warmed up it was time to go back to work.
 
Right, and that's exactly what I was saying before - handy for that kind of thing. Fire it up ten mins before you're going to get into the vehicle (or whatever) and have a comfy place to be for lunch or the drive home or whatever.

But that's a very different thing to maintaining a particular interior temperature for hours on end like the car's a fridge (not that fridges run at 40 degrees) or something.
 
over9k said:
Nope, park the car out of the sun and the car will be the exact same temperature as the air as there's no other heat source.

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we are talking about parking in the sun. if you park your car in the sun on even a mild day the cabin temp soars.
 

This police department mention not having to idle the engine during police work that requires the car to be stationary with a cop in it for long periods as one of the benefits of using a Tesla as a police car.

 
Value Collector said:
we are talking about parking in the sun. if you park your car in the sun on even a mild day the cabin temp soars.
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Yeah, and it is the sun that wrecks the interior, not the heat, making cooling the interior pointless. I don't know how much plainer I can put it.
 
over9k said:
Yeah, and it is the sun that wrecks the interior, not the heat, making cooling the interior pointless. I don't know how much plainer I can put it.
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Google does heat effect leather.

I won’t discuss this with you any further, you are growing tiresome, in fact you might end up blocked.
 
Let me ask you something VC:

In a car parked in the sun, what percentage difference to interior damage do you think a 40 degree interior makes compared to a 60 degree one?
 
considering your iPhone will stop functioning at around 40 degrees, and put up an emergency notification telling you to cool it down, what effect do you think allowing your car to rise over 60 degrees and heading to 100 degrees will have on the ever increasing amount of electronics and sensors cars have?

I have had this message when I left my phone in my old commodore in the drive way.

 
Being your average chump, I would think it would be easier and cheaper to have internal sunvisors/curtains that you can easily roll out in the sun along with photochromic glass rather than having an electric cooler operating.
 
Shh rumpole, you'll shatter his il(de)lusion.
 
SirRumpole said:
Being your average chump, I would think it would be easier and cheaper to have internal sunvisors/curtains that you can easily roll out in the sun along with photochromic glass rather than having an electric cooler operating.
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Tesla make those to, and you can do what even other strategy you want eg look for shade etc, but if all else fails or you forget to put your sun shade up and the cars temp rises they fans and ac kick in.

and as I said if you have a dog, and elderly parent or a cheese cake you want to protect for a little while then the being able to run the ac with out running a 3 Litre engine is handy.
 
over9k said:
Shh rumpole, you'll shatter his il(de)lusion.
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Don't be rude!
Talk about dying in a ditch ... for what exactly ? I have to say I have been at a loss to understand your doggedness at demeaning the value/point of the cool car cooling system for Tesla. No one is saying it is a game changer or anything. Just clever and potentially useful in some situations.

I mean you generally write useful, interesting comment and this surprises me .
 
A little forceful, but I agree with the sentiment.

IMO the move to BEV is inevitable, so the more user sensible additions supplied at the start, reduces the chance of an increase in price at a later date, if the manufacturers want to charge extra for them.
 
I tried being diplomatic, made a very deliberate point of saying I was trying to be diplomatic, and made a great big post about shade vs cooling and gave everyone some very simple, easy to follow advice on protecting your car's interior, and just look at the posts he made after.
 
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