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I went to catch up with a mate I havent seen for a long time, he has put down a deposit on a tesla cybertruck, the deposit was eye watering.
But hey if you can afford it, what the hell.
I went to catch up with a mate I havent seen for a long time, he has put down a deposit on a tesla cybertruck, the deposit was eye watering.yep, and think about how quickly we dumped video shops once we realised we could stream movies over phone lines we all were connected to at home anyway.
I remember back in the 90’s going and picking up over night movies for $7, 20 years of inflation later I can stream a new release movie from my home less than that, and have access to unlimited amounts of movies on Netflix for $3 a week.
sure some people feel nostalgic towards Friday night video shop trips, but no one can honestly say they were better or cheaper.
petrol stations will be seen the same way.
Agreed.The point I was trying to make re petrol stations had little to do with aesthetics but more to do with convenience and utility.
On the same theme a lot of petrol stations have closed down over here in the West and a lot of new ones have sprung up in the same area, the difference being the new ones have huge aprons around them.Agreed.
If EV's do become mainstream then for fast charging sites, those petrol stations which are located at a reasonably strong point in the power grid will have a much easier path than those which aren't.
One near me just happens to have an overhead 11,000 Volt line running straight past. That's a bonus definitely and beats having a petrol station where gaining access to any serious power supply would cost $ millions.
Some sites have a much better prospect of conversion to fast charging stations than others.
For clarity:
230 / 400V = the low voltage distribution network to which homes are connected. It'll charge an EV but hugely problematic if anyone wants to install multiple fast chargers at the one site as it just doesn't have the capacity to run that sort of thing.
11,000 - 66,000 Volts = the sub-transmission network. That's the 3 wires mounted highest on the pole in areas where it's present overhead (some is located underground) and this provides a relatively easy path. Simply add a transformer and you can pull some significant power out of that to feed fast chargers etc. Actual voltages used vary between states and there's multiple voltages within most states but that's not a problem.
110,000 - 500,000 Volts = the transmission network mostly overhead on steel towers with limited amounts underground. Not economic to be direct connecting any load to it apart from really massive things like smelters so its presence is of no real use in charging EV's unless someone's got an unlimited budget.
Service station sites with easy access to the sub-transmission network are the ones that have an easy option to become fast charging sites. Some have that, some don't.
The point I was trying to make re petrol stations had little to do with aesthetics but more to do with convenience and utility.
In the case of an ICE vehicle one calls in to a service station
I went to catch up with a mate I havent seen for a long time, he has put down a deposit on a tesla cybertruck, the deposit was eye watering.
But hey if you can afford it, what the hell.
Deposit not an issue indeed.how much is it in Australia?i mean cost delivered etc in AUD?Eye watering???
It’s only $150 isn’t it?
I just checked the Tesla Website, and in Australia you can order a Cyber Truck with $150 deposit, and in the USA it’s $100.
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Deposit not an issue indeed.how much is it in Australia?i mean cost delivered etc in AUD?
I want the version wo the broken windshield
Deposit not an issue indeed.how much is it in Australia?i mean cost delivered etc in AUD?
I want the version wo the broken windshield
It was the side windows @qldfrog, and here's mine tricked out as a proud Brisbane Lions supporter:Deposit not an issue indeed.how much is it in Australia?i mean cost delivered etc in AUD?
I want the version wo the broken windshield
Musk was smart in offering the more expensive models to market first as very few orders are for the single motor version.I don’t know, I am guessing around $80,000.
base model in the USA sells for $39,500, so after allowing for the exchange rate and taxes I think $80k.
I don’t think they confirm an exact price until after they can begin delivery’s in 2021,
but, the guy with the Ev just drives home, and spends 10secs plugging in, that’s heaps more convenient.
Not even talking money side or something not PC to say:Are you sure your not projecting your lifestyle onto everyone else ?
You being "retired" can charge you car at home during the day using solar panels, but the working stiffs who drive their cars to work will have to charge at night, so unless they have some home battery that can charge their car at night they will have to rely on the grid.
Are you sure your not projecting your lifestyle onto everyone else ?
You being "retired" can charge you car at home during the day using solar panels, but the working stiffs who drive their cars to work will have to charge at night, so unless they have some home battery that can charge their car at night they will have to rely on the grid.
Tesla have always rated as one of the most unreliable Cars out there.
Not even talking money side or something not PC to say:
Let's be honest Tesla are the beemers of the left/watermelons thinking.
A look at me symbol hidden under a pretence of green do good
Own a Prius or a Leaf if it is really the environment you care about
Then in that context, who really cares if you are producing more co2 with your tesla than a small diesel in qld?
Recharging at home when possible is greatNothing wrong with relying on the grid.
My point was about the convenience.
People mistakenly believe that Pulling into a petrol station for 10 mins is more convenient than just parking in your garage and taking 10 seconds to plug your car in.
Those “working stiffs” (your words), waste enough time commuting to and from work each day, if you can take away the need to for them to spend 8 hours a year at the petrol station that is a huge benefit.
10mins a week filling your car equals over 8 hours a year.
Fair.Maybe tech new toy guy or trying to make up for green conscience?Given the fact that I have only ever owned 1 other car, which was a 1997 VT commodore, and I only replaced it because it was literally falling apart.
I think we should be able to agree that I don’t choose my cars based on whether I will think people will look at me.
Fair.Maybe tech new toy guy or trying to make up for green conscience?
Or just new wealth not wanting to be seen in a Merc/beemer.plenty of reasons but i doubt it was either the running cost , the cheap asset price or the 8h a year refill
the cheap asset price or the 8h a year refill
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