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It's a shame that social media is around and that ill informed people spread this dribble.This blog (5min read) by a Dr. who did a thesis for a PhD on the decline of diseases in Aust by 1950 and the role of vaccines explains how herd immunity occurs and is being hijacked this time, and that traditional measures for controlling infectious diseases were reversed for the first time in history by the WHO that falsely claimed that healthy (asymptomatic) people are a risk to the community if the virus is identified in their body.
IMO the water this time is so muddy it is very difficult to logically predict any outcome of Covid let alone an economic one.
Always check your sources.one trick was perverting the PCR into being a diagnostic test ( instead of a research tool )
Inventor of PCR Test Said Fauci ‘Doesn’t Know Anything’ And Is Willing To Lie On Television
Inventor of PCR Test Said Fauci 'Doesn't Know Anything' And Is Willing To Lie On Television
Kary Mullis, who won a 1993 Nobel Prize for inventing the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) testing process later used to diagnose Coronavirus cases, said that Dr. Anthony Fauci lacks knowledge of medicine and is willing to lie on television. Mullis also admitted in another set of videotaped...nationalfile.com
RIP ,
Kary Mullis
one might also give the last rites to medicine as well
Not practical though.there was a lovely video of the late Kary Mullis saying precisely that PLUS the test could not prove you were infectious , just you had some DNA ( or RNA ) in that sample
and well there are enough videos of Fauchi speaking on camera to judge for yourself , start with 'herd immunity ' , if truly bored go back to the HIV days
and THEN you can check the debate on the PCR test as patented to detect Covid 19 ( not SARS Cov 2 which is the actual virus )
a much better gauge would be an antibody test using a blood sample , which would show your body is fighting ( or has recently fought ) the virus
i would like to think you are correct on the revolution , but some have been severely hurt during this ( delayed medical treatments and financial damage )
i am not willing to bet against a revolt
( i hold VUK and JHG , so would feel an impact if there was )
cheers
If everyone was fully vaccinated, we can open up and let the virus spread, and instead of intensive care units and funeral parlours being over run we will just have people getting the sniffles.Yep, been saying that all along. Vaccines will not give us the freedom we are led to believe. It makes me sick to listen to everyone on TV say the same thing - Vaccination is our way out of lockdown, if everyone gets vaccinated we will be safe, etc.". Safer perhaps because it does seem to work to an extent, but the answer to safely travelling and gathering NO! I am not bashing vaccines although I would like to do that. Some people have very little choice so they should risk it. Most people will not be affected much and do not need it, and the vaccinated keep getting infected again so our leaders need a different tack. This one will never work. I believe that the possible economic implications will be most negatively felt when they do try to open up and it backfires. It looks like that has already begun. After a few more tries people will become very disillusioned. There does not seem to be a plan B other than more jabs. Bad way to go. Who here never has a plan B?
One month I think that death was not a thing pre-COVID.If everyone was fully vaccinated, we can open up and let the virus spread, and instead of intensive care units and funeral parlours being over run we will just have people getting the sniffles.
Then, once covid has been reduced to the sniffles, each exposure adds to our immunity levels, and some natural balance should be reached and we can all go about or lives again.
True, but we're only interested in how it effects the economics/markets. There's a political thread to argue about it if you want but all you're doing is screaming into the abyss.
If you want to discuss what you think is going to happen/what governments are going to do (not what they SHOULD do) then I'm all ears though.
News flash:
People get sick
People die
It's the cycle of life
but will it ??Yep, but that’s why we invented all the other vaccines and wonders of modern healthcare to extend our personal participation in this cycle of life.
Not to mention seat belts, airbags, bike helmets and many other things.
If a vaccination can reduce deaths from 1 in 300 to maybe 1 in 100,000 why wouldn’t you recommend them?
Critical mass vaccinated or exposed.... So why not let healthy people get exposed? Let's look at bloody Sweden for once..whole story done and over there...protect the weak, let it run for the restAnything that depends on the weather and which is run in a businesslike manner will be heavily reliant on statistics and in particular the probability of various scenarios and the known extremes. Examples include agriculture, water supply, short term operations of electricity supply and so on.
A share trader trading a mechanical system will ultimately be relying on some set of statistical data, in particular the probability of various scenarios and the known extremes, in order to determine that the system gives them an edge and doesn't blow up. The details used will vary according to the situation but stand back and that's what it comes down to.
When it comes to vaccination the same applies. It's possible that a vaccine might kill you yes but based on available knowledge the probability massively favours vaccination being less likely to harm you than the disease it seeks to prevent.
That's much like saying that under certain scenarios it's possible that someone dies in a car crash because they were wearing a seat belt or because of the airbags deploying. That is possible indeed there are reported occurrences. Likewise at a guess it probably has happened that a building burnt down because the fire alarm caught fire. Theoretically it's possible and odds are it has happened somewhere at least once. Statistically however, you're far less likely to be killed by the belt, bag or alarm than that same belt, bag or alarm is to save your life. Statistical probability favours having it despite the new risk it creates.
In the absence of certainty I'll pick proper statistical data over random thoughts any day. There's no guarantee that turns out to be the right decision but most likely it will be and there's no "do nothing" option here, there's no option to simply say we'll do nothing right now and will collect some more data before we make a decision as someone might do with a proposed share trading system or the construction of a dam. In this case there's no option to do nothing, the virus is already up and running.
The economic impacts will continue rising until we've got a critical mass of people vaccinated. Only then, and I'm basing this on reports of the overseas experience, can we get back to business with any real certainty.
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