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Comically, one of the countries testing multiple vaccines and touting itself as being a world leader, etc etc, also boasts about having had no local transmission of the virus for a long time, making it funny to inject locals with prototypes and have them wander around in an environment they claim is free of the virus. I suppose when none of them get it they can claim success, the vaccine works. That honestly wouldn't surprise me and wouldn't be an unusual claim from that government.
Comically, one of the countries testing multiple vaccines and touting itself as being a world leader, etc etc, also boasts about having had no local transmission of the virus for a long time, making it funny to inject locals with prototypes and have them wander around in an environment they claim is free of the virus. I suppose when none of them get it they can claim success, the vaccine works. That honestly wouldn't surprise me and wouldn't be an unusual claim from that government.
So , if we can't get a vaccine, is a treatment possible ?
Suggest you do some serious reading on how a vaccine is developed, testing on humans through most stages isn't against live viruses.........but then you would know that?
Just a reminder how it works Sdajii
Stage 1 is testing on a few healthy young people different doses to assess toxicity and sizing dosage.
-If the vaccine passes.
Stage 2 is testing on a larger group of people, some whom may be old or have other health issues to see if there are any side effects or other problems.
-If the vaccine passes
Stage 3 is testing on a very large number of people in an environment where the virus is present, some with the vaccine, some with a placebo. Of the ones who catch the disease, how many caught it despite the vaccine and how many caught it without the vaccine. This indicates how effective it is.
Obviously. The point is that there's virtually no challenge in creating and testing a 'vaccine' to show that it's safe. That's all we can hope to achieve in these tests. I can literally come up with something in the kitchen right now which you can inject into people safely, and if I want to call it a vaccine it will pass stage 1 clinical testing with flying colours.
Most of these things being tested are barely more than that. Throw some antigens in and it's literally all they're doing. These tests are not even attempting to demonstrate efficacy, which makes the public excitement and official hype absurd.
The good ones, like Australia's were first tested on animals though. I agree some (most?) of them are pretty rushed and dodgy. Frankly, I think we are the big hope.
I said you are just guessing.It's funny how we have a thread discussing the future and you'll whinge in this way when you don't like what someone says but you're all for it when someone does the exact same thing but you agree with it.
I said you are just guessing.
Your opinions are not based on reality.
Vaccines exist for many "diseases."
HIV is treatable and may not require a vaccine.
Just to get back on topic. I never realised there were so many doctors on here. If I had I would have had my medicare card ready.
Cryptos will be gone by this time next year. Unusual, unknown, contrarian events occur during and following pandemics.
I'm still trying to figure the whole crypto scene out, but here's where I am at at the moment....Just to get back on topic. I never realised there were so many doctors on here. If I had I would have had my medicare card ready.
Cryptos will be gone by this time next year. Unusual, unknown, contrarian events occur during and following pandemics.
People are flocking in to crypto and forget that governments need to take some money out of the system having poured so much in recently.
So, you heard it here first, one economic consequence of the Covid-19 Pandemic will be a squeeze on crypto.
- Get rid of Gold No
- Get rid of the US Dollar. No
- Get rid of Crypto. Yes
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Try to keep your personal bile out of this.What a stupid statement.
So , if we can't get a vaccine, is a treatment possible ?
It's called an immune system.
Those compromised as such, take evasive action.
Obviously. The point is that there's virtually no challenge in creating and testing a 'vaccine' to show that it's safe. That's all we can hope to achieve in these tests. I can literally come up with something in the kitchen right now which you can inject into people safely, and if I want to call it a vaccine it will pass stage 1 clinical testing with flying colours.
Most of these things being tested are barely more than that. Throw some antigens in and it's literally all they're doing. These tests are not even attempting to demonstrate efficacy, which makes the public excitement and official hype absurd.
Try to keep your personal bile out of this.
China is already at stage 3 trials.
On topic, should a vaccine be available next year and I had the opportunity to prioritise its use, it would be an immediate requirement for all international travel. That would open up travel/tourism/hospitality which are some of the hardest hit sectors of economies and would negate the need for countries to collaborate on "bubbles."
Your personal views are not relevant to medical science.Trust is a thing earned first and China is lacking that.
As for imposing a person must be injected with a substance to be allowed international travel, good luck with that, you must be living in an alternate universe.
And why stop there, a tracking chip under everyones skin might also help determine why and where clusters occur.
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