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I pretty sure if any of you good people here at ASF took one pill one night with a few drinks, with your husband / wife. You would enjoy it and look back on it, that it was an experience, i doubt that you would get addicted to it, and your life would be worthless unless you were on it.
hell I'm not a christian
but
if I were to say a prayer, it would go something like this ...
"hey lord but you have given me one mind
and lord but you have given me one body
hence lord, may I be able to able to "unwind"
with nothing stronger than a rum and toddy"
(sorry but crap poetry is my forte)
.....
3,4-methylenedioxymethylamphetame is an amazing drug. It works by tricking your brain into releasing some of its stores of serotonin which is a feel good chemical, it also works by stopping the brain by reabsorbing the serotonin for a period of time, its for this reason it is known as a SSRI selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor.
After the MDMA wears off the brain starts to absorb all this extra serotonin, and becuase the MDMA made the brain release lots of serotonin it must now spend some time making more and not releasing as much, this is called the come down, some ppl might feel a little under the weather for a day, i know i dont though.
I don't think it's just about legalizing pills, but also the regulation and control of pills/drugs, etc. The time will come when industry and government realise that they can make a regulated and controlled industry out of the recreational drug market, much like that of the pharmaceutical industry. If you do a little research you'll find out that the good old pharmaceutical industry is not so different than your local friendly drug dealer. They are both pushers of various drugs which rely on the user to become dependent/addicted to the wares they are selling.
The amount of people that are on some sort of prescribed drug for whatever ailment far outweighs those that use "illegal" drugs. Some of these so called legally prescribed drugs can be as addictive if not more so than their illegal counterparts. I've read a few reports and articles on the topic(my partner is studying to become a naturopath so she can get her hands on some great info) and some of the numbers and figures are staggering - I understand why the industry makes the massive profits that it does.
Have a read or do a search on pain killer and/or sedative addiction if you want to some eye opening stats and figures. What concerns me the most is the prescription of drugs to kids who are being diagnosed with all kinds of pseudo-illnesses and ailments, ADD being a classic example.
Kremmen nailed it with his last paragraph. It's worth reading again -
And that's the point: We should decide what sort of society we want: One where we hand over power to the government to decide what's good for us, or one in which individuals have freedom of choice. Many people are total hypocrites, wanting freedom to do what they want, yet fighting against the freedoms of others. While we, as a society, remain two-faced and unprincipled, little will be solved.
I pretty sure if any of you good people here at ASF took one pill one night with a few drinks, with your husband / wife. You would enjoy it and look back on it, that it was an experience, i doubt that you would get addicted to it, and your life would be worthless unless you were on it.
moXJO - when things are legal there are no more under world dealers, people dont deal alcohol or cigarettes anymore becuase they are legal, the same would happen for MDMA.
3,4-AARONPHETAMINE
hell I'm not a christian
but
if I were to say a prayer, it would go something like this ...
"hey lord but you have given me one mind
and lord but you have given me one body
hence lord, may I be able to able to "unwind"
with nothing stronger than a rum and toddy"
(sorry but crap poetry is my forte)
To those of you who advocate legalising drugs such as heroin, amphetamines, ice, and whatever else happens to be fashionable, could you describe just exactly how you would envisage this happening.
I assure you asx there are plenty of those people in positions of power as we speak.
hey gar, I do , and that's honest....do you honestly believe that rum is less damaging to your health than moderate use of some of the drugs mentioned in this post?
In the following, Gordon compares two types of courage, one from the stimulant of the bottle, one from the stimulant of the "saddle tree" (I would say a comparison of alcohol vs adrenelin :- the second you like to remember - the first you strictly cant forget because you cant bludy remember it in the first place !!) :-
on Booze vs Exhileration :-
from YE WEARY WAYFARER, FYTTE III
A Treatise on the Vine Tree vs the Saddle Tree. - Adam Lindsay GORDON
I reMember some words my father said, when I was an urchin vain,
god Rest rest his soul in his narrow bed, these ten long years has lain
when I Think one drop of the blood he bore, this faint heart surely must hold
it May be my fancy and nothing more, but the faint heart seemeth bold.
he Said that as from the blood of the grape, or from juice distilled from the grain,
false Vigour, soon to evaporate, is leant to nerve and brain,
so the Coward will dare on a gallant horse, what he never would dare alone,
beCause he exults in a borrowed force, and a hardihood not his own.
and it May be so, yet this difference lies 'twixt the vine and the saddle-tree,
the Spurious courage that drink supplies, sets our baser passions free,
but the Stumulant which the horseman feels when he gallops fast and straight,
to his Better nature most appeals and charity conquers fate.
as the Kindly sunshine thaws the snow, even malice and spite will yield
we could Almost welcome our mortal foe, in the saddle by flood and field
..........
now Tell me for once old horse of mine grazing round me loose and free,
does your Ancient equine heart repine for a burst of such companie...
A couple more poems by AL Gordon - kinda relevant ( albeit "approx")
YE WEARY WAYFARER, Fytte VI
POTTER's CLAY [An Allegorucal Interlude]
Though the pitcher that goes to the sparkling rill
Too oft gets broken at last,
There are scores of others its place to fill
When its earth to the earth is cast;
Keep that pitcher at home, may it never roam,
but lie like a useless clod,
Yet sooner or later the hour will come
When its chips are thrown to the sod.
Is it wise, then, say, in the waning day,
When the vessel is crack'd and old,
To cherish the battered potters clay ,
As thoughit were virgin gold?
Take care of yourself, dull, boorish elf,
Though prudent and safe you seem,
Your pitcher will break on the musty shelf
And mine by the dazzling stream.
and another - you can feel the horse hard held approaching a jump -
from YE WEARY WAYFARER, Fytte VII
.........
Oh the vigour with which the air is rife !
The spirit of joyous motion;
The fever, the fullness of animal life,
Can be drained from no earthly potion!
The lungs with the living gas grow light,
and the limbs feel the strength of ten,
While the chest expands with its madd'ning might
GOD'S GLORIOUS OXYGEN.
Thus the measured stroke, on elastic sward,
Of the steed three parts extended,
Hard held, the breath of his nostrils broad,
With the golden ether blended;
Then the leap, the rise from the springing turf,
The rush through the buoyant air,
And the light shock landing - the veriest serf
Is an emperor then and there......
was freaking out so much when i listened to this- i was cringing when he puts the bag over your head and the razor part too!! everyone in math was talking about this today so i thought id better check it out. definitely worth it
scariest haircut i ever had. it freaked me out roflmfao!"!!!
etcThis is the best piece of work with audio i have heard this year, by far!
I rarely find any clips that actually takes advantage of the "from-left-to-right speaker"sound.
The Ned Flanderers have got it wrong and until they realise we need change the debarcle will continue...........................JW
PS hey Jessica - Are Marge and Lisa also wrong lol?Nedward 'Ned' Flanders is a fictional character on The Simpsons, voiced by Harry Shearer. ....often overly pompous in nature. Flanders, being amongst the most friendly and compassionate characters in the series (probably rivaled only by Lisa and Marge in terms of general good-heartedness)
lol. often serves as a positive representation of Evangelicals, leaning away from the "Fire and Brimstone" stereotype. Nevertheless, the writers of the show (most of whom consider themselves liberal) also often use the character as a mean to criticize fundamentalism and extreme social conservatism.
Flanders was named after Flanders St. in Portland, Oregon, the hometown of Simpsons creator Matt Groening.[1]
[edit] Personality
Ned is a genuinely well-meaning and good-natured person, one of the few in Springfield who can make that claim. Though firmly religious, he can be timid and something of a pushover. He is also often insecure. He is obsessed with following the Bible as literally as possible ("even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff") and is easily shocked when challenged on any point of dogma. This has led to his frequent calls to Reverend Lovejoy ("I... I think I'm coveting my own wife!") who has become increasingly frustrated with Flanders ("Have you thought about one of the other major religions? They're all pretty much the same."), who passive-aggressively avenges himself by encouraging his Olde English Sheepdog to defecate on Ned's lawn. Ned is 60 years old.
....Despite a meek outward appearance, Ned hides an exceptionally well-built physique under his pink shirt and green sweater combination. When he is revealed to be in his early 60s in "Viva Ned Flanders" Ned claims his deceptively youthful appearance is due to his conformity to the "Three Cs": "Clean living, Chewing thoroughly, and a daily dose of vitamin Church!" This age would seem to be contradicted in the episode "Hurricane Neddy", where it's revealed that he was in a mental hospital "30 years ago," and is shown a video in which he appears to be a child.[2]
Both Ned and his family rarely refer to his moustache as such, preferring nicknames such as "Nose Neighboor," "Mr. Tickles," "The Soup Strainer," "The Cookie Duster," "The Pushbroom," and "Dr. Fuzzenstein." He once shaved it off, after Homer implied that people were mocking Ned's facial hair behind his back. Ned's moustache would also affect his decision to move to the fictional town of Humbleton, PA. After being hired at the town's Humble figurine manufacturing factory in "Home Away from Homer", Ned was ordered to shave his moustache, due to an unofficial ban on facial hair. Ned defiantly refused to shave his moustache for which he was labelled a troublemaker.
[edit] Speech patterns
Ned has the odd habit of attaching "diddly," "doodly" and other nonsensical phrases to his sentences. "Hi-diddly-ho, neighbourino," is a common example.[3] This is the result of sublimated anger caused by his upbringing, anger which has no other outlet.
His extreme prudishness makes him averse to saying "sex" aloud, even when there are no children in sight — he either spells it out or sheepishly calls it "doodily." Ned also uses the word "doodle," "flander-doodle" or "shrinky-dink" when referring to a penis. In the Simpsons Road Rage game, when you scroll over him, he says, "Ned Flanders at your ser-diddly-ervice!"
Ummm... hate to mention this to you, but you would be surprised at the number of professionals & other people in "positions of importance" who are regular recreational users (petinant hint for this site - ever been to a shareholder meeting?). Most of them (that I speak to) do so simply because it is far easier to work at full capacity after a night involving a few lines, than it is after a drinking session.if rec-drugs were legalised then when we go overseas we'd probably never get hired for jobs in any decent first world country because the grown ups in those countries would know better than the let stoners or pill-poppers or speed or coke heads into positions of importance.
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