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And much more friendly to Democrats tooThe judge appointed to the case is one that Trump put there.
All Trump needs to do is get it delayed till after the election. No problemo. I am sure he will oblige. Some technical hitch.
And when it eventually goes to court the judge has the ability to say there is no case and cancel it that way.
Gotta love the US system.
Famous for being much more friendly to the wealthy.
The judge appointed to the case is one that Trump put there.
All Trump needs to do is get it delayed till after the election. No problemo. I am sure he will oblige. Some technical hitch.
And when it eventually goes to court the judge has the ability to say there is no case and cancel it that way.
Gotta love the US system.
Famous for being much more friendly to the wealthy.
Thanks, got a belly from that considering the leftist postmodern paradigm where feeling trump factcult disciples
Yes, its neo fascism.Thanks, got a belly from that considering the leftist postmodern paradigm where feeling trump fact
Yes, he handed back the boxes that were presidential as required. That proves my above scenario more than anything you had up. He has to be proven to have willfully withheld the material. He had 100 something documents left. That's easily misplaced.I believe the issue was quite clear. Trump took hundreds of boxes of documents from the White House. He does not seem to have processed them except it seems for some particularly juicy Top secret files which he openly referred to in public discussions.
He was asked to return all the documents . He returned 15 boxes . NRAA checked them and realised there was definitely substantial missing classified material. Trump was now supoenaed to give up the rest of the material.
This time Trump finds another 38 boxes of material (that somehow he had overlooked the first time) However there is continual leaking that Trump still has not returned all the material he took from the White House. The DOJ finally have a complete search of Mars a Lago and acting on tips offs find a further 102 boxes of material that had been hidden in a range of locations. (Remember that his lawyers had assured NRAA that all documents were returned in the previous tranche of 38 boxes) An analysis of these files shows
classified documents Mr Trump stored in his boxes contained information about:
As far as ignoring client-attorney privilege ? This is the argument that challenges that issue
- United States nuclear programmes
- Defence and weapons capabilities of both the United States and foreign countries
- Potential vulnerabilities of the United States and its allies to military attack
- Plans for possible retaliation in response to a foreign attack
DOJ Says Trump Lawyer Must Testify Because He May Have Been Part of a Crime
Special Counsel Jack Smith is arguing that Evan Corcoran, a lawyer involved in Trump's classified documents case, is not protected by attorney-client privilege.www.vanityfair.com
Oh this will be good.... Define neo-fascism, and careful you aren't hoist by your own petardYes, its neo fascism.
You define it as you are the expert and tell me why is isn't. Love to be educated.Oh this will be good.... Define neo-fascism, and careful you aren't hoist by your own petard
Cmon, don't chicken out. You know that's not how debate works. You're the accuser,You define it as you are the expert and tell me why is isn't. Love to be educated.
Why don't you define it. You are so confident.Cmon, don't chicken out. You know that's not how debate works. You're the accuser,
If I call tou a murderer, I'd have to let you know who I think you killed.
You utter loon, I know what fascism is and we can all look up what it means as well. I want to see what you think fascism is seeing you have accused someone of it.Why don't you define it. You are so confident.
This is the way you debate. I have known you since this website was started. if I post anything you won't argue the definition. Just call me a Maoist, Stalinist or something. Can't be bothered.
If you do decided to change your mind it should be in a new thread titled something like Defining neo fascism.
Neo fascism is more nuanced and cleverer than historical fascism but the soul is still there.Ok I'll bite. What is Fascism ? I posted a link to an analayis of Fascism and how it is different to merely an Authoritarian Government. I'll repost the rest of the article.
Borrowing from the cultural theorist Umberto Eco, the historians Emilio Gentile and Ian Kershaw, the political scientist Roger Griffin, and the former US secretary of state Madeleine Albright, I offer five elements that distinguish fascism from authoritarianism.
1. The rejection of democracy, the rule of law and equal rights under the law in favor of a strongman who interprets the popular will.
“The election was stolen.” (Trump, 2020)
“I am your justice … I am your retribution.” (Trump, 2023)
Authoritarians believe society needs strong leaders to maintain stability. They vest in a dictator the power to maintain social order through the use of force (armies, police, militia) and bureaucracy.
By contrast, fascists view strong leaders as the means of discovering what society needs. They regard the leader as the embodiment of society, the voice of the people.
2. The galvanizing of popular rage against cultural elites.
“Your enemies” are “media elites”, … “the elites who led us from one financial and foreign policy disaster to another”. (Trump, 2015, 2016)
Authoritarians do not stir people up against establishment elites. They use or co-opt those elites to gain and maintain power.
By contrast, fascists galvanize public rage at presumed (or imaginary) cultural elites and use mass rage to gain and maintain power. They stir up grievances against those elites for supposedly displacing average people and seek revenge. In doing so, they create mass parties. They often encourage violence.
3. Nationalism based on a dominant “superior” race and historic bloodlines.
“Tremendous infectious disease is pouring across the border.” (Trump, 2015)
“Jewish people that vote for a Democrat [show] great disloyalty.” (Trump, 2019)
“Getting critical race theory out of our schools is … a matter of national survival.” (Trump, 2022)
Authoritarians see nationalism as a means of asserting the power of the state. They glorify the state. They want it to dominate other nations.
Authoritarianism seeks to protect or expand its geographic boundaries. It worries about foreign enemies encroaching on its territory.
By contrast, fascism embodies what it considers a “superior” group – based on race, religion and historic bloodlines. Nationalism is a means of asserting that superiority.
Fascists worry about disloyalty and sabotage from groups within the nation that don’t share the same race or bloodlines. These “others” are scapegoated, excluded or expelled, sometimes even killed.
Fascists believe schools and universities must teach values that extol the dominant race, religion and bloodline. Schools should not teach inconvenient truths (such as America’s history of genocide and racism).
4. Extolling brute strength and heroic warriors.
“You’ll never take back our country with weakness, you have to show strength and you have to be strong. (Trump, 6 January 2021)
“I am your warrior.” (Trump, 2023)
The goal of authoritarianism is to gain and maintain state power. For authoritarians, “strength” comes in the form of large armies and munitions.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/02/donald-trump-presidential-run-gains-momentum
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/02/donald-trump-presidential-run-gains-momentum
By contrast, the ostensible goal of fascism is to strengthen society. Fascism’s method of accomplishing this is to reward those who win economically and physically and to denigrate or exterminate those who lose.
Fascism depends on organized bullying – a form of social Darwinism. For the fascist, war and violence are means of strengthening society by culling the weak and extolling heroic warriors.
5. Disdain of women and fear of non-standard gender identities or sexual orientation.
“When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.” (Trump, 2005)
“You have to treat ’em like ****.” (Trump, 1992)
“[I will] promote positive education about the nuclear family … rather than erasing the things that make men and women different.” (Trump, 2023)
Authoritarianism imposes hierarchies. Authoritarians seek order.
By contrast, fascism is organized around the particular hierarchy of male dominance. The fascist heroic warrior is male. Women are relegated to subservient roles.
In fascism, anything that challenges the traditional heroic male roles of protector, provider and controller of the family is considered a threat to the social order.
Fascism seeks to eliminate homosexual, transgender and queer people because they are thought to challenge or weaken the heroic male warrior.
These five elements of fascism reinforce each other:
Rejection of democracy in favor of a strongman depends on galvanizing popular rage.
Popular rage draws on a nationalism based on a supposed superior race or ethnicity.
That superior race or ethnicity is justified by social Darwinist strength and violence, as exemplified by heroic warriors.
Strength, violence and the heroic warrior are centered on male power.
These five elements find exact expression in Donald Trump and the white Christian nationalist movement he is encouraging. This is also the direction that most of the Republican party is now heading.
They are not the elements of authoritarianism. They are the essential elements of fascism.
America’s mainstream media is by now comfortable talking and writing about Trump’s authoritarianism. In describing what he is seeking to impose on America, the media should be using the term fascism.
Trump and the Republican party exemplify these five elements of fascism | Robert Reich
Trump is often described as ‘authoritarian’. But that doesn’t really capture the more alarming aspects of his movementwww.theguardian.com
Oh please. That's what you call curve fitting, you could make the same case for anyone. Please anyone with the time do Biden.Ok I'll bite. What is Fascism ? I posted a link to an analayis of Fascism and how it is different to merely an Authoritarian Government. I'll repost the rest of the article.
Borrowing from the cultural theorist Umberto Eco, the historians Emilio Gentile and Ian Kershaw, the political scientist Roger Griffin, and the former US secretary of state Madeleine Albright, I offer five elements that distinguish fascism from authoritarianism.
1. The rejection of democracy, the rule of law and equal rights under the law in favor of a strongman who interprets the popular will.
“The election was stolen.” (Trump, 2020)
“I am your justice … I am your retribution.” (Trump, 2023)
Authoritarians believe society needs strong leaders to maintain stability. They vest in a dictator the power to maintain social order through the use of force (armies, police, militia) and bureaucracy.
By contrast, fascists view strong leaders as the means of discovering what society needs. They regard the leader as the embodiment of society, the voice of the people.
2. The galvanizing of popular rage against cultural elites.
“Your enemies” are “media elites”, … “the elites who led us from one financial and foreign policy disaster to another”. (Trump, 2015, 2016)
Authoritarians do not stir people up against establishment elites. They use or co-opt those elites to gain and maintain power.
By contrast, fascists galvanize public rage at presumed (or imaginary) cultural elites and use mass rage to gain and maintain power. They stir up grievances against those elites for supposedly displacing average people and seek revenge. In doing so, they create mass parties. They often encourage violence.
3. Nationalism based on a dominant “superior” race and historic bloodlines.
“Tremendous infectious disease is pouring across the border.” (Trump, 2015)
“Jewish people that vote for a Democrat [show] great disloyalty.” (Trump, 2019)
“Getting critical race theory out of our schools is … a matter of national survival.” (Trump, 2022)
Authoritarians see nationalism as a means of asserting the power of the state. They glorify the state. They want it to dominate other nations.
Authoritarianism seeks to protect or expand its geographic boundaries. It worries about foreign enemies encroaching on its territory.
By contrast, fascism embodies what it considers a “superior” group – based on race, religion and historic bloodlines. Nationalism is a means of asserting that superiority.
Fascists worry about disloyalty and sabotage from groups within the nation that don’t share the same race or bloodlines. These “others” are scapegoated, excluded or expelled, sometimes even killed.
Fascists believe schools and universities must teach values that extol the dominant race, religion and bloodline. Schools should not teach inconvenient truths (such as America’s history of genocide and racism).
4. Extolling brute strength and heroic warriors.
“You’ll never take back our country with weakness, you have to show strength and you have to be strong. (Trump, 6 January 2021)
“I am your warrior.” (Trump, 2023)
The goal of authoritarianism is to gain and maintain state power. For authoritarians, “strength” comes in the form of large armies and munitions.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/02/donald-trump-presidential-run-gains-momentum
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/02/donald-trump-presidential-run-gains-momentum
By contrast, the ostensible goal of fascism is to strengthen society. Fascism’s method of accomplishing this is to reward those who win economically and physically and to denigrate or exterminate those who lose.
Fascism depends on organized bullying – a form of social Darwinism. For the fascist, war and violence are means of strengthening society by culling the weak and extolling heroic warriors.
5. Disdain of women and fear of non-standard gender identities or sexual orientation.
“When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.” (Trump, 2005)
“You have to treat ’em like ****.” (Trump, 1992)
“[I will] promote positive education about the nuclear family … rather than erasing the things that make men and women different.” (Trump, 2023)
Authoritarianism imposes hierarchies. Authoritarians seek order.
By contrast, fascism is organized around the particular hierarchy of male dominance. The fascist heroic warrior is male. Women are relegated to subservient roles.
In fascism, anything that challenges the traditional heroic male roles of protector, provider and controller of the family is considered a threat to the social order.
Fascism seeks to eliminate homosexual, transgender and queer people because they are thought to challenge or weaken the heroic male warrior.
These five elements of fascism reinforce each other:
Rejection of democracy in favor of a strongman depends on galvanizing popular rage.
Popular rage draws on a nationalism based on a supposed superior race or ethnicity.
That superior race or ethnicity is justified by social Darwinist strength and violence, as exemplified by heroic warriors.
Strength, violence and the heroic warrior are centered on male power.
These five elements find exact expression in Donald Trump and the white Christian nationalist movement he is encouraging. This is also the direction that most of the Republican party is now heading.
They are not the elements of authoritarianism. They are the essential elements of fascism.
America’s mainstream media is by now comfortable talking and writing about Trump’s authoritarianism. In describing what he is seeking to impose on America, the media should be using the term fascism.
Trump and the Republican party exemplify these five elements of fascism | Robert Reich
Trump is often described as ‘authoritarian’. But that doesn’t really capture the more alarming aspects of his movementwww.theguardian.com
That's what you call curve fitting, you could make the same case for anyone. Please anyone with the time do Biden.
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