The God Emperor seems to be a real chance for 2024.Hey @basilio , I don't check up on this stuff, but having a coffee with a group of people this morning some were going on about Trump could be up and running again.
They didn't sound happy.
You are just a stirrer. ?The God Emperor seems to be a real chance for 2024.
Although I ultimately think DeSantis is a better choice, I'm barracking for Trump for the sheer entertainment value (and he might just "make America great again")
Getting arrested may just make him president again. It's currently being pushed by TDS higher up.You are just a stirrer. ?
PZ99 has called it though.
Powerful Republican interests including Murdoch will make sure Trump won't be able to run.
The charges will get him. The Stormy Daniels one is the ideal for them as watching the religious right argue for Trump that the pornographic thing is not important will be excruciating.?
Sht might not stick to the Teflon man but Rupert will make sure spoof will.
That's a misdirection. It was ballot harvesting and law changes in crucial states.We all knew the truth about the 2020 Presidential elections. But Trump wanted evidence of a reality of rampant fraud to back up his
"Stop the Steal" theme. So he commissioned a research project to prove thousands of "dead" people voted in the critical States. Interesting that Trump was given the results of the research the day before he tried to railroad Brad Raffensperger into "finding him" enough votes to win. One of his arguments was BS about the 5000 plus dead Georgians that voted that his own research had said was not true.
If one was on the Grand Jury hearing this evidence on Donald trump attempting to overturn the Georgia election results it wouldn't look good.
Anyway unfortunately for Donald Trump...
Trump’s own research showed that voter fraud did not cost him election – report
Report commissioned by Trump campaign debunked former president’s claims that ballots came from dead voters
Victoria Bekiempis in New York
Fri 17 Mar 2023 15.00 EDTLast modified on Fri 17 Mar 2023 15.11 EDT
The Donald Trump election campaign’s efforts to show that thousands of ballots were cast in the name of dead people in the pivotal state of Georgia during the 2020 election resulted in a research report that in fact contradicted Trump’s claims that widespread election fraud cost him the presidency, according to a report on Friday.
Joe Biden’s victory in Georgia in 2020 was key and the Trump team’s own information went against Trump’s subsequent denial of the legitimate win by his opponent, according to the Washington Post.
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Prosecutors investigating Trump’s role in the insurrection at the US Capitol on 6 January 2021 by his supporters attempting to overturn the certification by Congress of Biden’s victory obtained the campaign research, the Washington Post reported.
Trump’s insistence that thousands of ballots came from dead people became especially infamous following revelations that he had urged the Georgia secretary of state, Republican Brad Raffensperger, to “find” enough votes so he would win, during a 2 January 2021 call. The Trump-commissioned study refuting this very claim “was dated one day prior” to this call, per the Post.
“Dead people”, Trump nevertheless remarked during the call. “So dead people voted, and I think the number is close to 5,000 people. And they went to obituaries. They went to all sorts of methods to come up with an accurate number, and a minimum is close to about 5,000 voters.”
Raffensperger pushed back, saying: “The actual number were two. Two. Two people that were dead that voted. So that’s wrong.” Trump reportedly insisted: “In one state, we have a tremendous amount of dead people. So I don’t know – I’m sure we do in Georgia, too. I’m sure we do in Georgia, too.”
Raffensperger’s comments were bolstered by an Atlanta Journal-Constitution report in December 2021 that Georgia authorities confirmed a mere four cases of ballots cast in the name of dead people, with every instance involving a ballot cast by the relative of a deceased person. Georgia prosecutors are investigating whether Trump and his allies broke the law in their efforts to reverse election results.
Trump also made the unsubstantiated claim that “a tremendous number of dead people” cast ballots in Michigan. “I think it was … 18,000. Some unbelievably high number, much higher than yours, you were in the 4-5,000 category.”
The Trump campaign-commissioned report said analysts had “high confidence” there were only nine deceased voters in Fulton county, Georgia. The researchers also said they believed the “potential statewide exposure” of dead voters was 23, the newspaper said.
The research also contradicted Trump’s claims that some 1,500 ballots came from dead voters and that over 42,000 voted twice in Nevada. The analysis expressed “high confidence” that just 12 deceased-voter ballots were submitted in Clark county, Nevada; they said the number of possible double voters ranged from 45 to just over 9,000.
While the report does not outright state that Biden won the election, the analysis also said they did not have evidence to substantiate fraud claims about five decisive states’ results. “This result was not unexpected,” the analysis reportedly said. “Our analysis of Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin and Nevada concluded that in each state the final tabulated result was mathematically possible given absentee request rates.”
Trump’s own research showed that voter fraud did not cost him election – report
Report commissioned by Trump campaign debunked former president’s claims that ballots came from dead voterswww.theguardian.com
The biggest fear that the GOP has is that trump does not get endorsed as the preferred candidate, then takes his bat and ball and runs as an independant.You are just a stirrer. ?
PZ99 has called it though.
Powerful Republican interests including Murdoch will make sure Trump won't be able to run.
The charges will get him. The Stormy Daniels one is the ideal for them as watching the religious right argue for Trump that the pornographic thing is not important will be excruciating.?
Sht might not stick to the Teflon man but Rupert will make sure spoof will.
I think the GOP are on board with a Trump arrest. Trump is way too divisive and i just didn't see him wining anyway. If Trump is taken out, it clears the path for DeSantis and hopefully converts the Magas over.The biggest fear that the GOP has is that trump does not get endorsed as the preferred candidate, then takes his bat and ball and runs as an independant.
The GOP will have to convince Trump to support someone else, or they are cooked.
His rusted on supporters, and there are very many, will need to be cajoled into supporting another candidate other than Trump for the GOP to take back the presidency.
Whether its Desantis, Niki Haley, Mike Pence or some other candidate, is immaterial at this point, as long as Trump is not in the race.
EDIT: One also has to consider that for the GOP, having Trump run again limits it to one term only, as a candidate can only serve two terms.
It would mean having to have two candidate bashings with the media in four years.
Far better to have a candidate who has the potential to reign for two terms.
Mick
Not true. Donald Trump said thousands of dead people had voted. He said far more people had voted than were registered. He said Dominion had flipped Trump votes to Biden votes.That's a misdirection. It was ballot harvesting and law changes in crucial states.
Really ? What should he "pardon" him for exactly ? After all he hasn't yet been convicted of anything to be pardoned for. He has never, ever even acknowledged he has ever done anything wrong.Never has. Never will.Biden pardoning Trump would be the coup de grace.
Trumps an idiot. He knew something happened, just not exactly what.. Problem was ballot harvesting was legally ok or a grey area.Not true. Donald Trump said thousands of dead people had voted. He said far more people had voted than were registered. He said Dominion had flipped Trump votes to Biden votes.
Do you remember any of this MoXjo ? Do you think Trump could have got millions of people out screaming for blood on the basis of ballot harvesting or laws that allowed early voting ?
Trump made up a pack of incendiary lies about the 2020 election. Hopefully he will be brought to account for the lies and the further actions he undertook to overthrow the results. The fact that his own commissioned research he received the day before, destroyed the basis of the claims he alleged with Brad Raffenperger underlines the criminality of the man.
US election 2020: Fact-checking Trump team's main fraud claims
We've looked at some of the allegations of malpractice from President Trump and his supporters.www.bbc.com
Trumps an idiot. He knew something happened, just not exactly what.. Problem was ballot harvesting was legally ok or a grey area.
There were a huge amount of activists hoovering ballots.
That's why I said the above was a misdirection. I said "harvesting" would win it before the election. I think you were convinced Trump was going to win.
"Dead people voting" is just a misdirection. The dems simply executed a very grey area plan that spanned across multiple platforms.
Trump being arrested (over hush money to a pr0n star) would be a crime against humanity.
Maybe it was the Russians....Getting a bit desperate here aren't we Moxjo ? " He knew something happened, just not exactly what.."
Yeah. What happened was HE LOST THE ELECTION. He was outvoted across the country and in the swinging seats he needed to win to remain in office.
But he always said the only way he could lose was if there was electoral fraud. He lost ergo there must have been fraud.
This right here shows me you don't actually know what is going on with the case. Trash articles as usual.But that is not true is it moXJo .. A classic case of misdirection .The arrest will be for campaign fund violations
Timeline: The probe into Trump's alleged hush money payment to Stormy Daniels
Trump has denied having an affair with her but has changed his story regarding the payment as events played out.www.axios.com
That's a misdirection. It was ballot harvesting and law changes in crucial states.
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