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wayneL
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The God Emperor seems to be a real chance for 2024.
Although I ultimately think DeSantis is a better choice, I'm barracking for Trump for the sheer entertainment value (and he might just "make America great again"
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Trump can't run again. He won both elections and is still the pres today.
His two terms are up
Meanwhile... "Donald Trump encourages [another] protest ahead of his suspected arrest" > https://www.news.com.au/world/north...t/news-story/b156c0db926e6ae38bb16b92a7c8db58
His two terms are up
Meanwhile... "Donald Trump encourages [another] protest ahead of his suspected arrest" > https://www.news.com.au/world/north...t/news-story/b156c0db926e6ae38bb16b92a7c8db58
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You are just a stirrer. ?The God Emperor seems to be a real chance for 2024.
Although I ultimately think DeSantis is a better choice, I'm barracking for Trump for the sheer entertainment value (and he might just "make America great again"
PZ99 has called it though.
Powerful Republican interests including Murdoch will make sure Trump won't be able to run.
The charges will get him. The Stormy Daniels one is the ideal for them as watching the religious right argue for Trump that the pornographic thing is not important will be excruciating.?
Sht might not stick to the Teflon man but Rupert will make sure spoof will.
Getting arrested may just make him president again. It's currently being pushed by TDS higher up.
There was no way Trump was winning before. But a political witch hunt arrest just before primaries will most likely cause civil war and keep Trump in the headlines as a victim.
Insanity to not just let him wither on the vine. I gave him zero chances to get up again, but the odds have now gone more in his favour.
Biden pardoning Trump would be the coup de grace.
That's a misdirection. It was ballot harvesting and law changes in crucial states.We all knew the truth about the 2020 Presidential elections. But Trump wanted evidence of a reality of rampant fraud to back up his
"Stop the Steal" theme. So he commissioned a research project to prove thousands of "dead" people voted in the critical States. Interesting that Trump was given the results of the research the day before he tried to railroad Brad Raffensperger into "finding him" enough votes to win. One of his arguments was BS about the 5000 plus dead Georgians that voted that his own research had said was not true.
If one was on the Grand Jury hearing this evidence on Donald trump attempting to overturn the Georgia election results it wouldn't look good.
Anyway unfortunately for Donald Trump...
Trump’s own research showed that voter fraud did not cost him election – report
Report commissioned by Trump campaign debunked former president’s claims that ballots came from dead voters
Victoria Bekiempis in New York
Fri 17 Mar 2023 15.00 EDTLast modified on Fri 17 Mar 2023 15.11 EDT
The Donald Trump election campaign’s efforts to show that thousands of ballots were cast in the name of dead people in the pivotal state of Georgia during the 2020 election resulted in a research report that in fact contradicted Trump’s claims that widespread election fraud cost him the presidency, according to a report on Friday.
Joe Biden’s victory in Georgia in 2020 was key and the Trump team’s own information went against Trump’s subsequent denial of the legitimate win by his opponent, according to the Washington Post.
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Prosecutors investigating Trump’s role in the insurrection at the US Capitol on 6 January 2021 by his supporters attempting to overturn the certification by Congress of Biden’s victory obtained the campaign research, the Washington Post reported.
Trump’s insistence that thousands of ballots came from dead people became especially infamous following revelations that he had urged the Georgia secretary of state, Republican Brad Raffensperger, to “find” enough votes so he would win, during a 2 January 2021 call. The Trump-commissioned study refuting this very claim “was dated one day prior” to this call, per the Post.
“Dead people”, Trump nevertheless remarked during the call. “So dead people voted, and I think the number is close to 5,000 people. And they went to obituaries. They went to all sorts of methods to come up with an accurate number, and a minimum is close to about 5,000 voters.”
Raffensperger pushed back, saying: “The actual number were two. Two. Two people that were dead that voted. So that’s wrong.” Trump reportedly insisted: “In one state, we have a tremendous amount of dead people. So I don’t know – I’m sure we do in Georgia, too. I’m sure we do in Georgia, too.”
Raffensperger’s comments were bolstered by an Atlanta Journal-Constitution report in December 2021 that Georgia authorities confirmed a mere four cases of ballots cast in the name of dead people, with every instance involving a ballot cast by the relative of a deceased person. Georgia prosecutors are investigating whether Trump and his allies broke the law in their efforts to reverse election results.
Trump also made the unsubstantiated claim that “a tremendous number of dead people” cast ballots in Michigan. “I think it was … 18,000. Some unbelievably high number, much higher than yours, you were in the 4-5,000 category.”
The Trump campaign-commissioned report said analysts had “high confidence” there were only nine deceased voters in Fulton county, Georgia. The researchers also said they believed the “potential statewide exposure” of dead voters was 23, the newspaper said.
The research also contradicted Trump’s claims that some 1,500 ballots came from dead voters and that over 42,000 voted twice in Nevada. The analysis expressed “high confidence” that just 12 deceased-voter ballots were submitted in Clark county, Nevada; they said the number of possible double voters ranged from 45 to just over 9,000.
While the report does not outright state that Biden won the election, the analysis also said they did not have evidence to substantiate fraud claims about five decisive states’ results. “This result was not unexpected,” the analysis reportedly said. “Our analysis of Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin and Nevada concluded that in each state the final tabulated result was mathematically possible given absentee request rates.”
Trump’s own research showed that voter fraud did not cost him election – report
Report commissioned by Trump campaign debunked former president’s claims that ballots came from dead voterswww.theguardian.com
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The biggest fear that the GOP has is that trump does not get endorsed as the preferred candidate, then takes his bat and ball and runs as an independant.
The GOP will have to convince Trump to support someone else, or they are cooked.
His rusted on supporters, and there are very many, will need to be cajoled into supporting another candidate other than Trump for the GOP to take back the presidency.
Whether its Desantis, Niki Haley, Mike Pence or some other candidate, is immaterial at this point, as long as Trump is not in the race.
EDIT: One also has to consider that for the GOP, having Trump run again limits it to one term only, as a candidate can only serve two terms.
It would mean having to have two candidate bashings with the media in four years.
Far better to have a candidate who has the potential to reign for two terms.
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I think the GOP are on board with a Trump arrest. Trump is way too divisive and i just didn't see him wining anyway. If Trump is taken out, it clears the path for DeSantis and hopefully converts the Magas over.
It reignites the base and puts a younger more competent guy in, without the baggage.
Trumps yesterday's news. His time is and was over once he lost.
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Not true. Donald Trump said thousands of dead people had voted. He said far more people had voted than were registered. He said Dominion had flipped Trump votes to Biden votes.
Do you remember any of this MoXjo ? Do you think Trump could have got millions of people out screaming for blood on the basis of ballot harvesting or laws that allowed early voting ?
Trump made up a pack of incendiary lies about the 2020 election. Hopefully he will be brought to account for the lies and the further actions he undertook to overthrow the results. The fact that his own commissioned research he received the day before, destroyed the basis of the claims he alleged with Brad Raffenperger underlines the criminality of the man.
US election 2020: Fact-checking Trump team's main fraud claims
We've looked at some of the allegations of malpractice from President Trump and his supporters.
www.bbc.com
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Really ? What should he "pardon" him for exactly ? After all he hasn't yet been convicted of anything to be pardoned for. He has never, ever even acknowledged he has ever done anything wrong.Never has. Never will.
Perhaps in another universe if Trump is convicted on the the host of business , personal and political crimes he may be charged with, another President may decide to pardon the convicted criminal.
I mean Trump has already stated he will pardon the insurrectionists from Jan 6th.
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Will be good for the news sites this week click revenue is going to be through the roof! And as an added bonus this will also keep people distracted from the fact the government has failed to address inequality, inflation, woke incompetent banks run by political agents, neverending bailouts, etc.
Trump should just smoke some crack on camera and sleep with his dead brothers wife. Then he'd be protected from legal action
Trump should just smoke some crack on camera and sleep with his dead brothers wife. Then he'd be protected from legal action
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The left and establishment is doing everything they can to stop Trump in 2024
Trump won 2016
Trump won 2020 - then the CIA got involved and changed the voted to put a pedo senile in charge with a criminal family to go with it - jeez, you would have thought that they could have installed someone better...
Trump will win in 2024
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Trump won 2016
Trump won 2020 - then the CIA got involved and changed the voted to put a pedo senile in charge with a criminal family to go with it - jeez, you would have thought that they could have installed someone better...
Trump will win in 2024
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Trumps an idiot. He knew something happened, just not exactly what.. Problem was ballot harvesting was legally ok or a grey area.Not true. Donald Trump said thousands of dead people had voted. He said far more people had voted than were registered. He said Dominion had flipped Trump votes to Biden votes.
Do you remember any of this MoXjo ? Do you think Trump could have got millions of people out screaming for blood on the basis of ballot harvesting or laws that allowed early voting ?
Trump made up a pack of incendiary lies about the 2020 election. Hopefully he will be brought to account for the lies and the further actions he undertook to overthrow the results. The fact that his own commissioned research he received the day before, destroyed the basis of the claims he alleged with Brad Raffenperger underlines the criminality of the man.
US election 2020: Fact-checking Trump team's main fraud claims
We've looked at some of the allegations of malpractice from President Trump and his supporters.
There were a huge amount of activists hoovering ballots.
That's why I said the above was a misdirection. I said "harvesting" would win it before the election. I think you were convinced Trump was going to win.
"Dead people voting" is just a misdirection. The dems simply executed a very grey area plan that spanned across multiple platforms.
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Getting a bit desperate here aren't we Moxjo ? " He knew something happened, just not exactly what.."
Yeah. What happened was HE LOST THE ELECTION. He was outvoted across the country and in the swinging seats he needed to win to remain in office.
But he always said the only way he could lose was if there was electoral fraud. He lost ergo there must have been fraud.
So Trump set out to "find electoral fraud". He demanded his staff find/create/imagine the ways in which the election had been stolen. The BBC link I attached before highlighted a few of these creative endeavours. Each and every one was a lie. Naturally he didn't care if they were true or not. As long as they could get his people enraged, supporting him financially and coming to the Stop the Steal Rally that was all that mattered.
Frankly I don't think Trump should be found guilty of any of the electoral fraud charges. I believe he is incapable of knowing what is reality and this will become clearer in any trials. It would probably be fairer to find him criminally insane and have him committed for a minimum of 10 years to an institution for the criminally insane. That at least would spare him from the ignominy of a criminal record.
If the Karma Bus has its way Donald Trump could be committed to wing which houses the other inmates who passionately believe they are POTUS and/or Donald Trump.
US election 2020: Fact-checking Trump team's main fraud claims
We've looked at some of the allegations of malpractice from President Trump and his supporters.
www.bbc.com
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But that is not true is it moXJo .. A classic case of misdirection .
The arrest will be for campaign fund violations
Timeline: The probe into Trump's alleged hush money payment to Stormy Daniels
Trump has denied having an affair with her but has changed his story regarding the payment as events played out.
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? ? ? ? ?
Maybe it was the Russians....
This right here shows me you don't actually know what is going on with the case. Trash articles as usual.But that is not true is it moXJo .. A classic case of misdirection .
Timeline: The probe into Trump's alleged hush money payment to Stormy Daniels
Trump has denied having an affair with her but has changed his story regarding the payment as events played out.
FEC would have prosecuted earlier.
Alvin Bragg, is an elected deadsht Democratic prosecutor in Manhattan. He doesn't have a lot of support.
Department of justice tried this on John Edwards, where it was glaringly obvious and it still resulted in a mistrial.
Trumps is no where near that (beyond feverish tds opponents).
It's a witch hunt and will fail in similar fashion to the other million accusations. So yeah they can arrest but doubtful if what they have will stick.
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Peanuts compared to Republican Gerrymander but then you already know that?
"The 2012 election provides a number of examples of how partisan gerrymandering can adversely affect the descriptive function of states' congressional delegations. In Pennsylvania, for example, Democratic candidates for the House of Representatives received 83,000 more votes than Republican candidates, yet the Republican-controlled redistricting process in 2010 resulted in Democrats losing to their Republican counterparts in 13 of Pennsylvania's 18 districts.[36]
In the seven states where Republicans had complete control over the redistricting process, Republican House candidates received 16.7 million votes and Democratic House candidates received 16.4 million. The redistricting resulted in Republican victories in 73 out of the 107 affected seats; in those seven states, Republicans received 50.4% of the votes but won in over 68% of the congressional districts.[37] While it is but one example of how gerrymandering can have a significant effect on election outcomes, this kind of disproportional representation of the public will seems problematic for the legitimacy of democratic systems, regardless of one's political affiliation."
