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[mullokintyre]

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The really odd thing here is that Hutchinson's testimony was third hand.
She heard it from someone else, who or may have not got it from the driver.
Both the driver and the secret service again in a leading car were said to have been interviewed by the committee, but their testimony has not been reported.
If you goggle the testimony, there are hundreds of stories of them going to testify, or have testified but no actual stories on what they said.
Surely , if everything took place as has been said, they would go to the primary source and push it all over the press.
Mick

 

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[DB008]

Remember when Trump did this, it was racist.

BREAKING: Biden admin imposes restrictions on travelers from China due to Covid concerns​

Under the new regulations, which take effect January 5, anyone over two years of age who enters the US from China, Hong Kong, or Macau by air will be required to present a negative Covid test taken no more than two days before they left the country to travel to the US.​

https://thepostmillennial.com/break...hina-due-to-covid-concerns?utm_campaign=64466​

Biden does it, no worries.

Your watching state sponsored propaganda (USA) in real time folks.

 

[mullokintyre]

Remember when Trump did this, it was racist.

BREAKING: Biden admin imposes restrictions on travelers from China due to Covid concerns​

Under the new regulations, which take effect January 5, anyone over two years of age who enters the US from China, Hong Kong, or Macau by air will be required to present a negative Covid test taken no more than two days before they left the country to travel to the US.​

https://thepostmillennial.com/break...hina-due-to-covid-concerns?utm_campaign=64466​

Biden does it, no worries.

Your watching state sponsored propaganda (USA) in real time folks.

Xenophobic was the term they used for Trump.
Doubt that MSM will use the same term for Biden.
Mick

 

[DB008]

 

[DB008]

Don't worry, the 2020 US Presidential Election was legit. Trust me, Trust the science....

This is bigger than Watergate

I notice that our tax payer funded ABC News is completely silent on the Twitter Files. Pretty obvious why....

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[DB008]

Probably the best review of what's happened in the USA the last 6 or so years regarding Trump and all the 'Russia Russia Russia' lies, Alfa Bank lies, social media influence, lying to the FISA Court to spy on a political candidate and a sitting POTUS, FBI + CIA manipulating the 2020 Election etc etc etc....

How the 3 Letter Agencies (+ CISA) got away with this, is incredible.

Elon releasing the Twitter files, with emails as proof or you wouldn't believe it, and there is still more to come.
l think the Fauci Twitter leaks are to be released shortly....

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/how-the-fbi-hacked-twitter-lee-smith

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[basilio]

Looks like the US Courts are now fed up with Trumps systemic abuse of the legal system.
No doubt we will hear the wails of a "political witchhunt beyond measure"

Trump and lawyer ordered to pay $1m for bringing ‘frivolous’ lawsuit against Hillary Clinton​

In scathing ruling, US district court judge writes, ‘misuse of the courts by Mr Trump and his lawyers undermines the rule of law’

A federal judge has ordered Donald Trump and one of his attorneys to jointly pay nearly $1m in penalties for pursuing a frivolous lawsuit that accused Hillary Clinton, the Democratic National Committee and other perceived enemies of the former president of engaging in racketeering and concocting a vast conspiracy against him.

The suit was dismissed in September and Trump was ordered to pay tens of thousands in November after one defendant sought sanctions. The latest order came after a group of the remaining defendants, including Clinton, filed a separate request for sanctions.


The end of the lawsuit marks the latest legal setback for Trump as he grapples with an array of civil and criminal investigations, including the probe into his retention of sensitive documents, while some of his lawyers are under scrutiny themselves for conduct in those cases.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/19/trump-e-jean-carroll-wife-deposition

In a scathing ruling, US district court judge Donald Middlebrooks castigated Trump and his lead attorney, Alina Habba, for abusing the legal system by advancing a lawsuit that furthered his political grievances over the 2017 Russia investigation using arguments replete with misinformation and errors.

“We are confronted with a lawsuit that should never have been filed, which was completely frivolous, both factually and legally, and which was brought in bad faith for an improper purpose,” Middlebrooks wrote in the 46-page order imposing sanctions of $937,989.39 against Trump and Habba.

.. The judge also found that Trump’s racketeering and conspiracy lawsuit appeared to be part of a pattern by the former president of misusing the courts by filing frivolous lawsuits in order to serve a political purpose.

“Misuse of the courts by Mr. Trump and his lawyers undermines the rule of law, portrays judges as partisans, and diverts resources from those who have suffered actual legal harm” he wrote.

Middlebrooks examined other seemingly politically motivated lawsuits filed by Trump and wrote that they all followed a playbook of including provocative rhetoric, political language carried over from rallies, attacks on political opponents and, typically, a lack of legal analysis.

“Trump is a prolific and sophisticated litigant who is repeatedly using the courts to seek revenge on political adversaries. He is the mastermind of strategic abuse of the judicial process,” the judge wrote. “He knew full well the impact of his actions.”

Trump and lawyer ordered to pay $1m for bringing ‘frivolous’ lawsuit against Hillary Clinton

In scathing ruling, US district court judge writes, ‘misuse of the courts by Mr Trump and his lawyers undermines the rule of law’

www.theguardian.com

 

[moXJO]

Looks like the US Courts are now fed up with Trumps systemic abuse of the legal system.
No doubt we will hear the wails of a "political witchhunt beyond measure"

Trump and lawyer ordered to pay $1m for bringing ‘frivolous’ lawsuit against Hillary Clinton​

In scathing ruling, US district court judge writes, ‘misuse of the courts by Mr Trump and his lawyers undermines the rule of law’

A federal judge has ordered Donald Trump and one of his attorneys to jointly pay nearly $1m in penalties for pursuing a frivolous lawsuit that accused Hillary Clinton, the Democratic National Committee and other perceived enemies of the former president of engaging in racketeering and concocting a vast conspiracy against him.

The suit was dismissed in September and Trump was ordered to pay tens of thousands in November after one defendant sought sanctions. The latest order came after a group of the remaining defendants, including Clinton, filed a separate request for sanctions.


The end of the lawsuit marks the latest legal setback for Trump as he grapples with an array of civil and criminal investigations, including the probe into his retention of sensitive documents, while some of his lawyers are under scrutiny themselves for conduct in those cases.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/19/trump-e-jean-carroll-wife-deposition

In a scathing ruling, US district court judge Donald Middlebrooks castigated Trump and his lead attorney, Alina Habba, for abusing the legal system by advancing a lawsuit that furthered his political grievances over the 2017 Russia investigation using arguments replete with misinformation and errors.

“We are confronted with a lawsuit that should never have been filed, which was completely frivolous, both factually and legally, and which was brought in bad faith for an improper purpose,” Middlebrooks wrote in the 46-page order imposing sanctions of $937,989.39 against Trump and Habba.

.. The judge also found that Trump’s racketeering and conspiracy lawsuit appeared to be part of a pattern by the former president of misusing the courts by filing frivolous lawsuits in order to serve a political purpose.

“Misuse of the courts by Mr. Trump and his lawyers undermines the rule of law, portrays judges as partisans, and diverts resources from those who have suffered actual legal harm” he wrote.

Middlebrooks examined other seemingly politically motivated lawsuits filed by Trump and wrote that they all followed a playbook of including provocative rhetoric, political language carried over from rallies, attacks on political opponents and, typically, a lack of legal analysis.

“Trump is a prolific and sophisticated litigant who is repeatedly using the courts to seek revenge on political adversaries. He is the mastermind of strategic abuse of the judicial process,” the judge wrote. “He knew full well the impact of his actions.”

Trump and lawyer ordered to pay $1m for bringing ‘frivolous’ lawsuit against Hillary Clinton

In scathing ruling, US district court judge writes, ‘misuse of the courts by Mr Trump and his lawyers undermines the rule of law’

www.theguardian.com

Is it suspect at all that this judge was appointed to the bench by president Clinton?

Na that's fine.

 

[sptrawler]

Is it suspect at all that this judge was appointed to the bench by president Clinton?

Na that's fine.

I haven't followed it, but wouldn't be surprised if they sit on a Musk trail.
Bring on the Republic.?

 

[basilio]

Is it suspect at all that this judge was appointed to the bench by president Clinton?

Na that's fine.

Really ? That's what you've got to say MoXjo ? Donald Trump creates a fictitious law suit that has no evidence to back it up. There is no legal analysis to give it any semblance of legal justification. The allegations of racketeering and conspiracy ? Total Trump BS.
So the judge calls it for what it is.

“We are confronted with a lawsuit that should never have been filed, which was completely frivolous, both factually and legally, and which was brought in bad faith for an improper purpose,” Middlebrooks wrote in the 46-page order imposing sanctions of $937,989.39 against Trump and Habba.

I suggest that any judge would have thrown the case out of court on exactly the same grounds - because it was all poisonous Trumpian BS.

I suspect however a Republician appointed judge might not have blasted Trump with both barrels reloaded and then do it again. If you want to suggest a political bias it could be in Middlebrooks having the courage to say out loud what every other person with two functioning neurones who reads the judgement would acknowledge. Hopefully he has created precedent where other Judges who have to preside over Trumps playbook of litigation decide to call him out for what he has been in his entire life

“Trump is a prolific and sophisticated litigant who is repeatedly using the courts to seek revenge on political adversaries. He is the mastermind of strategic abuse of the judicial process,” the judge wrote. “He knew full well the impact of his actions.”

I think the next time Trump goes to court, which will be for his attack on Jean Carroll over her rape claims, the judge might look over Judge Middlebrooks findings and repeat them in his own words.

By the way did anyone read the judgement itself ? It is breathtaking in its takedown of Donald Trump and his lawyers.

the 46-page order imposing sanctions

 

[moXJO]

Really ? That's what you've got to say MoXjo ? Donald Trump creates a fictitious law suit that has no evidence to back it up. There is no legal analysis to give it any semblance of legal justification. The allegations of racketeering and conspiracy ? Total Trump BS.
So the judge calls it for what it is.

“We are confronted with a lawsuit that should never have been filed, which was completely frivolous, both factually and legally, and which was brought in bad faith for an improper purpose,” Middlebrooks wrote in the 46-page order imposing sanctions of $937,989.39 against Trump and Habba.

I suggest that any judge would have thrown the case out of court on exactly the same grounds - because it was all poisonous Trumpian BS.

I suspect however a Republician appointed judge might not have blasted Trump with both barrels reloaded and then do it again. If you want to suggest a political bias it could be in Middlebrooks having the courage to say out loud what every other person with two functioning neurones who reads the judgement would acknowledge. Hopefully he has created precedent where other Judges who have to preside over Trumps playbook of litigation decide to call him out for what he has been in his entire life

“Trump is a prolific and sophisticated litigant who is repeatedly using the courts to seek revenge on political adversaries. He is the mastermind of strategic abuse of the judicial process,” the judge wrote. “He knew full well the impact of his actions.”

I think the next time Trump goes to court, which will be for his attack on Jean Carroll over her rape claims, the judge might look over Judge Middlebrooks findings and repeat them in his own words.

By the way did anyone read the judgement itself ? It is breathtaking in its takedown of Donald Trump and his lawyers.

the 46-page order imposing sanctions

Yep Installed by President Clinton himself.

 

[basilio]

Yep Installed by President Clinton himself.

True .. but as usual totally irrelevant.

Unless of course the import of the observation is that the said judge has completely overthrown judicial rules and evidence based facts to heinously crucify the Sun Dog. Clearly if that was the case one would see numerous conservative lawyers critiquing the ruling on that basis.

Yes ? Anywhere ? Any hint of a critical analysis of the judgement that gives credence to such a travesty of justice ?

But Trump has got the message. He knows the judicial systemis fed up to the back teeth with his behaviour.

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Trump drops lawsuit against NY Attorney General Letitia James after being fined nearly $1 million for ‘strategic abuse’ of legal system​

Trump drops lawsuit against NY Attorney General Letitia James after being fined nearly $1 million for ‘strategic abuse’ of legal system

NEW YORK — Former President Donald Trump dropped a lawsuit against New York Attorney General Letitia James on Friday just a day after a federal judge slapped him and a lawyer with a nearly $1 million fine for filing bogus cases against political enemies. Trump pulled the plug on the Florida suit...

news.yahoo.com

 

[wayneL]

True .. but as usual totally irrelevant.

Unless of course the import of the observation is that the said judge has completely overthrown judicial rules and evidence based facts to heinously crucify the Sun Dog. Clearly if that was the case one would see numerous conservative lawyers critiquing the ruling on that basis.

Yes ? Anywhere ? Any hint of a critical analysis of the judgement that gives credence to such a travesty of justice ?

But Trump has got the message. He knows the judicial systemis fed up to the back teeth with his behaviour.

Close this content

Trump drops lawsuit against NY Attorney General Letitia James after being fined nearly $1 million for ‘strategic abuse’ of legal system​

Trump drops lawsuit against NY Attorney General Letitia James after being fined nearly $1 million for ‘strategic abuse’ of legal system

NEW YORK — Former President Donald Trump dropped a lawsuit against New York Attorney General Letitia James on Friday just a day after a federal judge slapped him and a lawyer with a nearly $1 million fine for filing bogus cases against political enemies. Trump pulled the plug on the Florida suit...

news.yahoo.com

Sun Tzu comes to mind.

 

[mullokintyre]

Yep Installed by President Clinton himself.

Moxy, you need to expand on this a bit.
The frivolous lawsuit was filed against Hilary Clinton as one of the defendants.
Trumps lawyers unsucessfully filed to get him to recuse himself , given that the husband of the defendant appointed him.
The US take conflict of interest far less seriously than we do here in OZ.
I would just about guarantee that an Australian judge would recuse himself/herself/itself under the same circumstances here.
Mick

 

[moXJO]

Moxy, you need to expand on this a bit.
The frivolous lawsuit was filed against Hilary Clinton as one of the defendants.
Trumps lawyers unsucessfully filed to get him to recuse himself , given that the husband of the defendant appointed him.
The US take conflict of interest far less seriously than we do here in OZ.
I would just about guarantee that an Australian judge would recuse himself/herself/itself under the same circumstances here.
Mick

Thats the absurdity of it.
It should be noted, the guy is well respected from both sides. But he was a Democrat.


But this is how US politics works:

There's a longer video with more context.
I'm not saying that's what happened here. But it's suss.
Generally I just like having a dig at bas though.

 

[basilio]

Generally I just like having a dig at bas though.

Absolutely . Totally understand.
I'm just not sure if everyone else on ASF is in on the "joke" or

1) Think that you believe Judge Middleborooks judgement was all about being a President Clinton appointment rather than his meticulously judging the steaming pile of poisonous merde served up Trump and his rabid lawyer. or

2) That really ASF for you is often about xhit and giggles so "for Gawds sake don't take anything I say seriously"- no matter how rancid it might be.

Much like Donald Trumps public discourse really..

 

[moXJO]

Absolutely . Totally understand.
I'm just not sure if everyone else on ASF is in on the "joke" or

1) Think that you believe Judge Middleborooks judgement was all about being a President Clinton appointment rather than his meticulously judging the steaming pile of poisonous merde served up Trump and his rabid lawyer. or

2) That really ASF for you is often about xhit and giggles so "for Gawds sake don't take anything I say seriously"- no matter how rancid it might be.

Much like Donald Trumps public discourse really..

Well played sir.

 

[basilio]

The frivolous lawsuit was filed against Hilary Clinton as one of the defendants.
Trumps lawyers unsucessfully filed to get him to recuse himself , given that the husband of the defendant appointed him.

I wasn't aware that Trumps lawyers had tried to use that angle to get the Judge off the case.

Makes it far more understandable why the Judge went to quite meticulous lengths to detail the legal precedents and arguments that guided his decision to throw out the case.

The Judge would have prided himself on his fairness and to have that thrown in his face would have been an exceptionally contemptuous act. "We can't trust you to be fair because one (of the 30 plus defendents) is related to the politician who appointed you ". So it becomes more understandable when he throws it out again and decides to publicly dismantle Donald Trumps legal stratagems

That would certainly put some fire in his comments.