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TheAnalyst said:
Wayne these Aussies must have listened to leftist lying journalists corrupted by middle eastern jihadists as any real aussie would have realised that the freedom that the Lebonese used to protest today came about by U.S. help during WW2 so they have a lot to be thankful to America for than they realise.

Sorry, that is just absurd. These particular Aussies were just prejudiced, pure and simple.
 
TheAnalyst said:
Wayne go back to post one of the thread and read and thats what I am saying.

Then what you are saying is lacking in any real balance and fails to take into consideration the whole range of issues.

cause => effect
 
wayneL said:
Then what you are saying is lacking in any real balance and fails to take into consideration the whole range of issues.

cause => effect


Thats cool by me as you have every right to your opinion as this is what the Americans fought and died for and now protect and lucky you dont live in the Gaza strip or Lebonon as you will surley fall into harms way if you disagreed with Hezza and Hamas.
 
Hezbollah agrees prisoner-swap talks
From correspondents in Beirut
July 23, 2006
THE radical Lebanese group Hezbollah has agreed to indirect talks with Israel on a prisoner exchange, Lebanon's parliament speaker Nabih Berri said in Beirut.

The pro-Iranian Shiite movement was ready to discuss with mediators the release of two Israeli soldiers that it abducted 12 days ago in a cross-border raid, Mr Berri said, adding the Lebanese Government would play a key role in the talks.

"The Lebanese Government will lead the exchange through the intermediary of a third party," he said.

Israel is holding three Lebanese and hundreds of Palestinians in its prisons.
 
TheAnalyst said:
Thats cool by me as you have every right to your opinion as this is what the Americans fought and died for and now protect and lucky you dont live in the Gaza strip or Lebonon as you will surley fall into harms way if you disagreed with Hezza and Hamas.

So Aussies Brits Canadians Polish Norwegians etc etc etc had nothing to do with it huh?
 
Hezbollah is listed as a terrorist organisation by the United States and Australia, as well as Britain, Canada and Israel. Yet it is able to control southern Lebanon and is so well armed that it can do this:

Israeli troops are massed on the border for a possible large-scale ground offensive against Hizbollah guerrillas holed up in southern Lebanon who have fired more than 600 rockets into Israel in the past 11 days, killing 15 civilians.

Hezbollah’s rockets are now so advanced it can fire them even into Haifa. What other weapons does Hezbollah have - or expect to get from Iran? What weapons do other Islamist terror groups now have or hope to obtain? This is the reality and fear that has driven so much of the West’s response to 9/11.


Tell the Lebonese leaders in Australia to denounce Hezzabollah and see if they will? Guarantee they wont......
 
TheAnalyst said:
Godfather this statement says it all that u really are making it up as you see fit. Once again my concern is what the Lebonese protestors left out at the protest and its this silence is what is the major concern.

No idea how u would arrive at that assumption but to be quite honest, having read your posts, your statements are based on your prejudice and xenophobia and not fact.......my intelligence is insulted by your posts and I refuse to enter into arguments with those who are just not interested in anything else but their own ideas and perceived sense of history. Have a dig at me as much as you like mate but at least when the dust has settled and people finally wake up, I know I will be on the right side of history. Im outa here. :cool:

PS I'll send you a free copy of my book when its released. Then maybe we can discuss this in a civilised manner ;)
 
the_godfather4 said:
No idea how u would arrive at that assumption but to be quite honest, having read your posts, your statements are based on your prejudice and xenophobia and not fact.......my intelligence is insulted by your posts and I refuse to enter into arguments with those who are just not interested in anything else but their own ideas and perceived sense of history. Have a dig at me as much as you like mate but at least when the dust has settled and people finally wake up, I know I will be on the right side of history. Im outa here. :cool:

PS I'll send you a free copy of my book when its released. Then maybe we can discuss this in a civilised manner ;)

Probably the best approach Godfather.

Let me know when you book is finished.

Cheers
 
Snake Pliskin said:
It`s this type of comment that is ruidiculous and shows the poster`s maturity, or lack of. :mad:

Well for your information God4: I lived in the Bansktown area of Sydney for over 3 years and worked there as well. If you don`t know it is the Lebanon of Australia.

Lets just say I have first hand knowledge of these people and the way they treat Australia. I had tenents who were part of the PLO with banners proudly displayed in their dingy little apartments and photos of themselves holding machine guns. I had people accuse me of being jewish because I was white etc. Lebanese worked on my car, cut my hair and were, apart from the Vietnamese the main source of my income. Generally I got along well with most of them, because they treated me ok and I did the same. I actually understand that they are people being led astray by their religions and leaders. There were some who created trouble for others and some who were locked up for rape etc. Most tried to fit in , but there were those who will never fit in. The Lakemba book shop selling hate books: I`ve seen it; I didn`t know exactly what they were selling - books I know, but I have seen the creepy looking weird ones that hang out there. Lakemba is one dangerous place now - recall the Police station being shot up, well it is opposite that book shop just down the street. But, I am not drawing any links here, just a geographical coincidence.

I used to buy Lebanese bread nearly every day for snacks becuase it is the best and I miss it now - go to Yagoona if you want to try the best. The bread in Riverwood is not as good.I have friends who I miss and yes they are Lebanese.



I don`t watch CNN. My statements are not general - I have seen it all in Bankstown, Lakemba and Greenacre.

Don`t you think it is a bit arrogant to think that we all get our info from the idiot box etc?



Call it what you like, but I suggest you start to wakeup and find out for yourself. ;) And leave your prejudices for the game of cricket and soccer.

Oh and every Israeli I have met has been a very nice person and law abiding, but I realise it is not representative of the rest of them. :cool: Though I wish I had met more so I could understand why they are hated so much.

Think about it God!

Snake,
I lived in St Marys in Sydneys west for 3 years as I was growing up and I can honestly tell you that even as a 'pure' Aussie (ie not new Australian) I also felt that a safe trip down to the shops was a blessing....I was rolled for my shoes 3 times and was jumped by groups of piss heads at least twice (2 nights in hospital) and guess what not a leb in sight.....this does not lead me to paint my fellow aussies as thugs or meatheads.....
I have lived in the US, France, UK, HK, Beirut, and Spain for at least 6-24mths and I can see how dangerous generalisations can be......basically, in the US and europe, Aussie blokes like me are all considered to be beer drinking yobbos who dont have any respect for women.....and this is coming from the "educated" side of those societies...... so for us to form opinions of a whole country and stand by while attrocities are being commited based on the actions of a "meathead" minority is very frustrating.........I see the meathead lebs that make us stereotype the rest, but i have also seen the good majority who live in peace in their own country (as i have seen both in Australia).......

As for the Israelis being hated so much, the answers lie in the similar crap they instill in the brains of their young (as do the muslim fundamentalists)....just read the link i already attached on the WW3 thread regarding what they truly think of the 'goyim' or gentiles...... :2twocents
 
Snake Pliskin said:
So now everyone is writing books, wow. :)

I recall a post where you questioned my "maturity" at having a cheap shot at you.....seems u and i are not that different after all...... :p:
 
wayneL said:
Probably the best approach Godfather.

Let me know when you book is finished.

Cheers

Will do mate.....i appreciate your balanced and fair approach to this topic....
 
Are we allowed to shoot rockets at NZ when the all blacks beat us? :D


But seriously, why aren't the Lebanese doing more to stop the rockets being fired from their country? It's their country the Hezbollah are operating from.
 
the_godfather4 said:
I recall a post where you questioned my "maturity" at having a cheap shot at you.....seems u and i are not that different after all...... :p:

You have misinterpreted my statement. Wow means wow, without the sarcasm. Note the smilie smiling - a genuine wow there God4.

Yes those beer drinking yobbos, I can see why they sterreo type them. St Marys, hmm a little scary out there.

Let me know when that book is done.
 
the_godfather4 said:
Snake,
I lived in St Marys in Sydneys west for 3 years as I was growing up and I can honestly tell you that even as a 'pure' Aussie (ie not new Australian) I also felt that a safe trip down to the shops was a blessing....I was rolled for my shoes 3 times and was jumped by groups of piss heads at least twice (2 nights in hospital) and guess what not a leb in sight.....this does not lead me to paint my fellow aussies as thugs or meatheads.....
I have lived in the US, France, UK, HK, Beirut, and Spain for at least 6-24mths and I can see how dangerous generalisations can be......basically, in the US and europe, Aussie blokes like me are all considered to be beer drinking yobbos who dont have any respect for women.....and this is coming from the "educated" side of those societies...... so for us to form opinions of a whole country and stand by while attrocities are being commited based on the actions of a "meathead" minority is very frustrating.........I see the meathead lebs that make us stereotype the rest, but i have also seen the good majority who live in peace in their own country (as i have seen both in Australia).......

As for the Israelis being hated so much, the answers lie in the similar crap they instill in the brains of their young (as do the muslim fundamentalists)....just read the link i already attached on the WW3 thread regarding what they truly think of the 'goyim' or gentiles...... :2twocents

Yes it is important that even us Australians don`t assume we are beer drinking yobbos.
 
Snake Pliskin said:
Yes it is important that even us Australians don`t assume we are beer drinking yobbos.

Snake,

I'm a beer drinking yobbo, & Iv'e paid enough tax to have my say :D

Citizenship criterion MUST be questioned !
Why not a plebisite on who we let in ,next federal election.

Time is running out ....Tick tick tick :sheep:

Bob.
 
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,19904271-661,00.html


Rice peace plan rejected

July 25, 2006 12:00am


LEBANESE parliamentary speaker Nabih Berri today rejected a ceasefire proposal by US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice aimed at ending Israel's war on Hizbollah.
A meeting between Dr Rice and Mr Berri, who is acting as an intermediary for the Shi'ite Muslim Hizbollah group, was marked by "differences," a source close to Mr Berri said after the surprise visit to Beirut by the top US diplomat.

"There was no agreement because Dr Rice insisted on a mechanism on a global settlement before a ceasefire," the source said on condition of anonymity.

"Rice set, as conditions for a ceasefire, the withdrawal of Hizbollah to the Litani river and the deployment of an international force in the area which would, she said, allow the return of displaced people."

The Litani river is about 20km from the border with Israel, marking an area that is largely under the control of Hizbollah.

Mr Berri, a veteran Shi'ite politician, had called for a ceasefire to be followed by a prisoner exchange and for Israel to allow the return of Lebanese who had fled the south "before discussing a complete plan to resolve the conflict".

But Dr Rice had refused to discuss an exchange of prisoners, the source said.

Hizbollah has demanded the release of Arab prisoners held in Israeli jails in return for two soldiers it captured in a deadly border raid on July 12 that triggered Israel's massive offensive on Lebanon.

Asked by reporters travelling with Dr Rice about the reported plan for some sort of buffer zone, US Assistant Secretary of State David Welch said: "I am not going to go into that."

In an earlier meeting, Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Siniora angrily attacked Israel for its relentless bombing campaign which has claimed mainly civilian victims.

"Israeli aggression is not only targeting Hizbollah but Lebanon itself, sending it back 50 years with its bombardment," he told Dr Rice.

Mr Siniora cited more than 350 deaths in Lebanon since the start of the campaign and some 1,500 wounded, a statement issued by his office said. – AFP


Tell the Lebonese in Australia to protest this!!!!!!!
 
TheAnalyst said:
Tell the Lebonese in Australia to protest this!!!!!!!


Protest what exactly Analyst....
1. Hizbollah not pulling out to the Litani River.... Last I checked, Hisbollah are funded by Syria and Iran... Lebanon haven't the army or the resources to stop them!
2. No agreement on prisoner swap... two soldiers vs hunders of civilians being held in israeli jails without charge! hmmm...
3. Or the sending of Lebanon back 50 years, 350 dead and 1500 wounded for no fault of their own...

Analyst... i've read your posts in this thread.... you are a joke... stick to posting about stocks...

tho hang on a sec... i've seen your posts on GTP.... enuf said!!!

PS: For the record, i am fully symathetic to plight of Israel... but what they are doing to Lebanon is plain wrong, and will not solve anything... They are blowing up civilians when the real problem is Syria and Iran...!
 
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