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Brendan Murphy has said in the senate estimates that COVID Mandates are no longer justified from a clinical perspective.
The question is, were they ever justified?
Mandates are a political construct, not a health construct.
Craig Kelly then pretends he understands law by saying that CEO's can then sue.
Unfortunately, for him, you could only sue if the mandates were still in place after tomorrow,

Mick
 
There have been concerns that mRNA in the vaccine may effect our DNA, we were assured that could not happen

What about DNA effecting our DNA, researchers in the USA were given expired vials of vaccine to use in research and discovered DNA in the vaccine at levels far above mandated as safe, a bit of a worry :(

<<Sequencing of bivalent Moderna and Pfizer mRNA vaccines reveals nanogram to microgram
quantities of expression vector dsDNA per dose

Likewise, studies evaluating the reverse transcriptase activity of LINE-1 and vaccine mRNA will need to account for the high levels of DNA contamination in the vaccines. The exact ratio of linear fragmented DNA versus intact circular plasmid DNA is still being investigated. Quantitative PCR assays used to track the DNA contamination are described.>>

 
mullokintyre said:
just had my booster this morning.
Wife suggested it might be a good idea as we are off overseas this year, so i always do as I am told.
Mick
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What is that Mick, covid vaccine 32? :roflmao:
It will be good when it comes in tablet form.
Where are you two heading off to?
 
sptrawler said:
What is that Mick, covid vaccine 32? :roflmao:
It will be good when it comes in tablet form.
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Nah, I think its number 5.
Had about 18 months of no booster when I got Covid and got some natural immunity.
I have no problems with injections, especially if the nurses are like the one who gave me this mornings dose.
Absolute stunner, biggest thrill I had all morning!
Mick
 
@Knobby22
Paywall. Stopped subscribing a couple of years What's the estimate? Is it a pro vax article?
Because imo, Fairfax is like reading the Washington Post or NYT. They are pro establishment, support the narrative mediums. E.g. they can't say something like, "Trump claims the 2020 election was stolen"; instead they'll say, "Trump falsely claims the 2020 election was stolen". And they're riddled with feminists.
 
finicky said:
@Knobby22
Paywall. Stopped subscribing a couple of years What's the estimate? Is it a pro vax article?
Because imo, Fairfax is like reading the Washington Post or NYT. They are pro establishment, support the narrative mediums. E.g. they can't say something like, "Trump claims the 2020 election was stolen"; instead they'll say, "Trump falsely claims the 2020 election was stolen". And they're riddled with feminists.
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Don't worry about it.
A scientific study about Australian (NSW) death rates for people over 50 from covid omicron and how many vaccinations they had.
Might provide it later if released off paywall.
 
Strange weird "self assembling" nanoparticles appear in ex vivo cultures when subjected to coronavirus injectables?

 

In situations like this I'm always thinking, "Did he take the vaccine and did it play a role? There's the doubt that we'd ever hear of it if it did. The heart was enlarged - was the cause inflammation?

"For some people, myocarditis can scar the heart muscle, so it can't pump blood around the body as well as it should. The heart becomes enlarged, and weaker. This is sometimes called dilated cardiomyopathy (DCM) or heart failure."
British Heart Foundation
 
finicky said:

In situations like this I'm always thinking, "Did he take the vaccine and did it play a role? There's the doubt that we'd ever hear of it if it did. The heart was enlarged - was the cause inflammation?

"For some people, myocarditis can scar the heart muscle, so it can't pump blood around the body as well as it should. The heart becomes enlarged, and weaker. This is sometimes called dilated cardiomyopathy (DCM) or heart failure."
British Heart Foundation
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Could easily be myocarditis, especially if he was an anti vaxer. It's a direct effect ( not side effect) of the virus...and the virus is still around.

The analysis showed people infected with COVID-19 before receiving a vaccine were 11 times more at risk for developing myocarditis within 28 days of testing positive for the virus. But that risk was cut in half if a person was infected after receiving at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine.

www.heart.org

COVID-19 infection poses higher risk for myocarditis than vaccines

The overall risk of myocarditis was higher immediately after being infected with COVID-19 than in the weeks after vaccination for the coronavirus, new research shows.
www.heart.org www.heart.org
 
Yeah, I don't believe any official medical body any more. You googled and what do you know, up comes a page littered with positive mRNA vaccine stories. Heart disease is on the rise, biggest western world killer, yet Heart Org proclaims they've been around for 100 years. What positive difference have they made? What are the connections with pharma? For funding for instance, or revolving door personnel. 100 years - that means probably at some time they've focused on cholesterol or saturated fat as primary issues, instead of inflammation from other causes.

American Heart Association News Stories​

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finicky said:
Yeah, I don't believe any official medical body any more. You googled and what do you know, up comes a page littered with positive mRNA vaccine stories. Heart disease is on the rise, biggest western world killer, yet Heart Org proclaims they've been around for 100 years. What positive difference have they made? What are the connections with pharma? For funding for instance, or revolving door personnel. 100 years - that means probably at some time they've focused on cholesterol or saturated fat as primary issues, instead of inflammation from other causes.

American Heart Association News Stories​

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Dieticians have been completely wrong in the past, lower your fat intake, increase your carbs. Avocado is fatty and not good for you. Cholesterol is bad, now we have good and bad cholesterol.

But there is so much bull out there in everything. That's why I follow the science.
 
Knobby22 said:
Dieticians have been completely wrong in the past, lower your fat intake, increase your carbs. Avocado is fatty and not good for you. Cholesterol is bad, now we have good and bad cholesterol.

But there is so much bull out there in everything. That's why I follow the science.
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And science is numbers
Luckily, even the ABC starts seing the light..just a few rays at the time
www.abc.net.au

'Cooker, anti-vaxxer, sheep': The people Australia's COVID-19 response forgot

Australia's COVID-19 response saved countless lives, but it also left hundreds of people believing they were suffering a constellation of strange symptoms from the vaccines. Now they're fighting a class action against the federal government.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
 
qldfrog said:
And science is numbers
Luckily, even the ABC starts seing the light..just a few rays at the time
www.abc.net.au

'Cooker, anti-vaxxer, sheep': The people Australia's COVID-19 response forgot

Australia's COVID-19 response saved countless lives, but it also left hundreds of people believing they were suffering a constellation of strange symptoms from the vaccines. Now they're fighting a class action against the federal government.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
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Yea, we were lucky we didn't let the virus run in the early days.
Let's see what happens in court.
 
Knobby22 said:
Yea, we were lucky we didn't let the virus run in the early days.
Let's see what happens in court.
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Indeed, it could gave been over in ,6 months but with the maths knowledge of judges not better than politicians or many in the medical profession, add the lobbies and billions involved .not a chance for truth imho.
 

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