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OK gents masks don't work because Donald says so, glad we could finally work that one out.

Spirted defence BTW.
We don't even have to listen to the prognostications of the God Emperor. We need only look at the data.

Let's take the United States for example, which is convenient because they have 50 different jurisdictions each with different approaches and the results of which are entered into the actual data.

At worst there is no difference between unmasked and masked States. But in actual fact the unmasked and relatively unlocked down states are doing better.

Data.

Read it and weep.
 
OK gents masks don't work because Donald says so, glad we could finally work that one out.

Spirted defence BTW.
Check the updated medical studies.
Or not. Keep wearing a mask without knowing the risks, no skin off my nose. But don't parrot bs information.

Masks alone offer limited protection.
 
Check the updated medical studies.
Or not. Keep wearing a mask without knowing the risks, no skin off my nose. But don't parrot bs information.

Masks alone offer limited protection.
When asked to wear one, don't.

Being a Victorian, and going into lockdown, I hated masks, but they served a purpose, and seem to have worked.

So MoXjo it is you who is the parrot, if you are going to have a stance, at least put the devil in the detail.
 
We don't even have to listen to the prognostications of the God Emperor. We need only look at the data.

Let's take the United States for example, which is convenient because they have 50 different jurisdictions each with different approaches and the results of which are entered into the actual data.

At worst there is no difference between unmasked and masked States. But in actual fact the unmasked and relatively unlocked down states are doing better.

Data.

Read it and weep.
Excuses, excuses, excuses, keep up the narrative of your god, but they are still excuses.

Or are 300,000 dead people wrong.

Or I am wrong and this virus which is killing USA citizens will "Just disappear"
 
Excuses, excuses, excuses, keep up the narrative of your god, but they are still excuses.

Or are 300,000 dead people wrong.

Or I am wrong and this virus which is killing USA citizens will "Just disappear"
Zzzzz...zzzz....zzzzzzzzzzzz
 
When asked to wear one, don't.

Being a Victorian, and going into lockdown, I hated masks, but they served a purpose, and seem to have worked.

So MoXjo it is you who is the parrot, if you are going to have a stance, at least put the devil in the detail.
The stance is: everyone has to wear one for it to be of significance.

They do not provide complete protection. Air goes in the sides. If you exhale too much moisture, they clog when they get damp and the air comes through the sides.

You have to follow strict procedures. As an example: even front line workers were getting it, with full ppe.

You are in just as much danger being uneducated about the issue.

Yes I can post a bunch of links.
 
We don't even have to listen to the prognostications of the God Emperor. We need only look at the data.

Let's take the United States for example, which is convenient because they have 50 different jurisdictions each with different approaches and the results of which are entered into the actual data.

At worst there is no difference between unmasked and masked States. But in actual fact the unmasked and relatively unlocked down states are doing better.

Data.

Read it and weep.

Once again you cite no evidence.

Where is the data you are looking at ?
 
The stance is: everyone has to wear one for it to be of significance.

They do not provide complete protection. Air goes in the sides. If you exhale too much moisture, they clog when they get damp and the air comes through the sides.

You have to follow strict procedures. As an example: even front line workers were getting it, with full ppe.

You are in just as much danger being uneducated about the issue.

Yes I can post a bunch of links.


Mo....please, please read up on masks types and uses, your understanding of the limits and advantages are at best pedestrian, seriously.

The defence / down playing BTW of Trump politicking many of the issues around COVID (masks being only one of many) lack of any form of leadership is an extortionary insight into the parallel world of Trump-ism.

It really is at least for me a education.

Politics is one thing, but politicians using health issues really is next level.

This is the fuel / leading edge that gives rise to dictators / authoritarianism IMHO.

Certainly its tested the democratic institutions in the US and at state level regardless of political alliances people have stood up.

One light at the end of the tunnel looks like being the vaccine hopefully it wont lead to another out break of hostilities that stifles its effectiveness.
 
Mo....please, please read up on masks types and uses, your understanding of the limits and advantages are at best pedestrian, seriously.

The defence / down playing BTW of Trump politicking many of the issues around COVID (masks being only one of many) lack of any form of leadership is an extortionary insight into the parallel world of Trump-ism.

It really is at least for me a education.

Politics is one thing, but politicians using health issues really is next level.

This is the fuel / leading edge that gives rise to dictators / authoritarianism IMHO.

Certainly its tested the democratic institutions in the US and at state level regardless of political alliances people have stood up.

One light at the end of the tunnel looks like being the vaccine hopefully it wont lead to another out break of hostilities that stifles its effectiveness.

What in bloody hell does my post have to do with Trump?

Its obvious people don't understand what masks limitations are here. Thats got nothing to do with Trump. Its about you lot talking out your arse on a subject that a lot of you don't seem to have the facts on.

Putting on a mask is not a foolproof way to stop covid. In fact it can be just as dangerous for the uneducated. Its bloody reality.
 
Imagine how frustrating it must be if you are a Doctor and have cured people of Covid by using Vitamin C, Ivermectin, Zinc and DoxyC AB and no one wants to know.

All cheap generic stuff available in every western country, all on PBS here in Oz instead we are injecting people with a rushed vaccine that "might work"

<<A health worker in Alaska suffered a serious allergic reaction after getting Pfizer-BioNTech’s COVID-19 vaccine and is now hospitalised but stable.

The New York Times reported the person received their jab on Tuesday, and Pfizer confirmed it was working with local authorities to investigate the incident.
Two health workers in Britain had similar allergic reactions, causing the government there to tell people to avoid getting the shot if they had a history of severe allergies.
The US regulator issued an emergency approval with the warning that people who had known allergies to ingredients inside the vaccine should avoid it>>


 
Imagine how frustrating it must be if you are a Doctor and have cured people of Covid by using Vitamin C, Ivermectin, Zinc and DoxyC AB and no one wants to know.

All cheap generic stuff available in every western country, all on PBS here in Oz instead we are injecting people with a rushed vaccine that "might work"

<<A health worker in Alaska suffered a serious allergic reaction after getting Pfizer-BioNTech’s COVID-19 vaccine and is now hospitalised but stable.

The New York Times reported the person received their jab on Tuesday, and Pfizer confirmed it was working with local authorities to investigate the incident.
Two health workers in Britain had similar allergic reactions, causing the government there to tell people to avoid getting the shot if they had a history of severe allergies.
The US regulator issued an emergency approval with the warning that people who had known allergies to ingredients inside the vaccine should avoid it>>


One of our main problems in the West in fighting the Covid-19 virus and giving a vaccine is Democracy.

Another is a Free Press.

We really need a bit of authoritarianism and biff like the Chinese give to anyone of their citizens stepping out of line for the common good.

gg
 
One of our main problems in the West in fighting the Covid-19 virus and giving a vaccine is Democracy.

Another is a Free Press.

We really need a bit of authoritarianism and biff like the Chinese give to anyone of their citizens stepping out of line for the common good.

gg

Sorry GG,

But our press is far from free, the big online entities are censoring a lot of news that may weaken the case for a vaccine.

Professor Borody has been in contact with both federal and state governments for months with a proven, easy, cheap cure and no one wants to know about it.

In the USA there was Senate committee meeting where Doctors fully explained why and how the treatment worked, it has been censored online a number of times

We have lost a Lot of our freedoms this past year.
 
One of our main problems in the West in fighting the Covid-19 virus and giving a vaccine is Democracy.

Another is a Free Press.

We really need a bit of authoritarianism and biff like the Chinese give to anyone of their citizens stepping out of line for the common good.

gg
I'll take the virus, thanks.
 
It happened 17mins after the injection. I thought it was during or just after.

Not a good look.

Yep I have seen people faint, but as Mo points out it is almost immediately.... The ones I know about anyway.
 
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