But maybe the Chinese vaccines don't work that well.I think AstraZeneca tech has been used in previous vacancies TB, Mars, malaria, Ebola?
AZ uses viral vector.
But yeah who would of thought the west would experiment on the general pop more than the Chinese government seemed prepared to do.
The bottom line will be hospitalisations and deaths prevented.But maybe the Chinese vaccines don't work that well.
China says coexisting with COVID is a folly of the west. But they could be secretly worried about their vaccines
Rising nationalism and potential fears about the efficacy of Chinese vaccines mean Beijing may keep the world's most populated nation locked down for years. But with isolation comes risks.www.abc.net.au
spike circulates and makes people sick :
I never doubted that it worked. It is an approved vaccine. The real world figures though are not quite as good.The bottom line will be hospitalisations and deaths prevented.
How efficacious is Sinovac?
A large phase 3 trial in Brazil showed that two doses, administered at an interval of 14 days, had an efficacy of 51% against symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection, 100% against severe COVID-19, and 100% against hospitalization starting 14 days after receiving the second dose.
Too much hype is presently about increasing case numbers where high vaccination rates prevail. Digging deeper we find it's mostly bad maths and poor comprehension. Imagine if had China vaccinated everyone and Delta led to a 2% breakthrough rate. That would give a case count greater than Australia's total population!
A real world analysis of China's coronavac is here.
White coat summit! Great name. Hilarious.It's a shame ASF does not have Facebook's policy on removing covid misinformation.
A large slab of Americans are being brainwashed by this rubbish and as a result the USA may never reach herd immunity.
That video actually peaked my curiosity towards the method of delivery that these vaccines are using. And that was off the back of the amount of inflammation I personally had.White coat summit! Great name. Hilarious.
Looked them up and they also push Hydroxychloroquine. Hey it works in the adds, put on a white coat, sell the stuff.
And those losers will pay to hear you talk.
Who are the doctors in the viral hydroxychloroquine video?
Despite social media platforms’ efforts to remove it, millions of people have seen a viral video of doctors making falsewww.politifact.com
I read that some female Media personalities were joking about their Pfizer Boob jobs and the fact that the swelling in their boobs was only temporary.That video actually peaked my curiosity towards the method of delivery that these vaccines are using. And that was off the back of the amount of inflammation I personally had.
Majority of what you see on the net is rubbish. But that can be both sides.
Even statements like "masks don't work" is both true and false. Context is everything.
But then there is straight out ridiculous stuff like 'vaccines make you magnetic". And yes I did try. Freaked out a bunch of people when I realised I could balance it between my delt and brachii.
Anyone that says the pfizer, moderna, AstraZeneca vaccines are safe are wrong.
But the vaccines are a better risk % then catching covid. And that's all it is. It's safer then covid. But only for a small % of people who would actually get serious issues with covid. Unfortunately you don't really know if you fall in that %. So vax the lot is the play you get. And rightly so.
The mrna vax in my mind is a wildcard. We don't really know the % risk vs covid long term. But most likely still better then covid. But this crap hasn't had a lot of studies. Especially long-term. And I'm worried about it. Simply because of lack of information to make an informed choice.
I fail to see what you are so upset about.The above post # 927 is an obsenity and should be taken down or edited by moderaters...(or leave as a testament to the ignorance of the author)
It comes from thinking aligned with witch burning and stoning heritics.
To compare the morning sickness therapy mentioned to the current covid vaccines is embelmatic of a total unawreness of both.
Educate yourself (macca you moron) to what the above mentioned failed pregnancy paliative actually was. And why it has had a revival in another area of treatment.
That this is presented by a purveyor of unproven 'crack pot cures' is unsuprising.
The damage that this type of insidious divel is able to perptectate can only be descired as criminal.
I seldom mention if at all my personal affiiations. One is proffesor of Pediatrics at a major Sydney teaching hospital.
The above post # 927 is an obsenity and should be taken down or edited by moderaters...(or leave as a testament to the ignorance of the author)
It comes from thinking aligned with witch burning and stoning heritics.
To compare the morning sickness therapy mentioned to the current covid vaccines is embelmatic of a total unawreness of both.
Educate yourself (macca you moron) to what the above mentioned failed pregnancy paliative actually was. And why it has had a revival in another area of treatment.
That this is presented by a purveyor of unproven 'crack pot cures' is unsuprising.
The damage that this type of insidious divel is able to perptectate can only be descired as criminal.
I seldom mention if at all my personal affiiations. One is proffesor of Pediatrics at a major Sydney teaching hospital.
Regardless of her unusual beliefs, there seem to be many out there (doctors) who think it can be treated with drugsWhite coat summit! Great name. Hilarious.
Looked them up and they also push Hydroxychloroquine. Hey it works in the adds, put on a white coat, sell the stuff.
And those suckers will pay to hear you talk.
One of the group details are below: She sounds like Dr Nick Riviera of Simpsons fame!! I love this stuff. Only in America.
Dr. Stella Immanuel is a Houston-based primary care physician and minister. In the video, she claimed that the coronavirus "has a cure."
"It is called hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and Zithromax," Immanuel said. "I know you people want to talk about a mask. Hello? You don’t need a mask. There is a cure."
We rated that False — and Immanuel has a track record of making unproven medical claims, such as believing in alien DNA.
Immanuel has a Texas medical license with specialties in pediatrics and emergency medicine. She says she has been practicing medicine in the United States or Canada for 24 years. She received her medical degree in Nigeria.
Immanuel operates a clinic in a strip mall next to her church, Firepower Ministries. In sermons published on YouTube and articles on the church’s now-defunct website, first unearthed by the Daily Beast, Immanuel makes several outlandish medical claims.
Among them: Medical problems like cysts are caused by sex with "spirit husbands" and "spirit wives," DNA from aliens is being used in medicine and scientists are developing vaccines to prevent people from being religious.
Who are the doctors in the viral hydroxychloroquine video?
Despite social media platforms’ efforts to remove it, millions of people have seen a viral video of doctors making falsewww.politifact.com
It can be treated (not cured)with drugs. They are trialling heaps of stuff. Some have mild effects and fix some aspects but the golden bullet hasn't been found so far.Regardless of her unusual beliefs, there seem to be many out there (doctors) who think it can be treated with drugs
And that is what clinicians, and others involved in scientific research, do basically. They want to know what works and what doesn't. So they gather data, assesses it and reevaluate as new verifiable information comes to hand. It is a very simple concept really although the process is complex.It can be treated (not cured)with drugs. They are trialling heaps of stuff. Some have mild effects and fix some aspects but the golden bullet hasn't been found so far.
The thing that I find objectionable in managing this disease is the number of erroneous assumptions that are taken as gospel.Treating or curing with drugs will only be an answer if the disease can be caught quickly and eliminated. But so long as it has a chance to spread, it has a chance to mutate. This is always the big risk, because the mutation may not be treatable or curable with the drugs released so far. That is why vaccination is so important. With the current vaccines not seemingly as effective against the Delta strain as they were against the previous strains, the solution is not to dump vaccines, but to work harder to come up with newer vaccines or modifications to those out there that are more effective against Delta and any newer strain that emerges.
This is a battle that requires everything to be thrown at it that is known to have some success. Vaccines, cures/treatment and of course the humble masks, social distancing and hand washing when needed.
Lockdowns have been proven effective (ask the NSW Premier what happens when you delay them), and people are not forced to stay indoors.As a case in point the dogma of lockdowns and forcing people to stay inside as much as possible. I think it is fairly evident that that is very little evidence of transmission in the outdoors. This indicates that lockdowns are counterproductive...
They are, but you won't look and seem not to be listening either.Also the so-called health authorities are not advising the population on how to manage their overall health and lifestyle in order to minimise the deleterious effects of covid.
Maybe that applies to people who don't look and listen!There can only be two possible answers, either gross incompetence, or some other agenda.
The original SARS jut disappeared, so SARS-CoV-2 might, in time. And your claim on vaccinations is simply incorrect:It seems to be very well accepted that this disease will be with us indefinitely, and also that the injections are under performing to expectations.
Also the so-called health authorities are not advising the population on how to manage their overall health and lifestyle in order to minimise the deleterious effects of covid. Being overweight, smoking, excessive alcohol consumption, all evidently add to the danger.
So why are our health thought is not counselling us to minimise risk by becoming healthier?
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