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I think our international borders will be shut for a long time. Domestically we should be okay to getting back to normal.
https://www.9news.com.au/world/coro...suggests/66033f41-fb10-4a5c-ba24-ba733119e93e
"Sometime in the middle of January, there was a change that allowed the virus to become more infectious. It doesn't mean it's more lethal," Haseltine said.
"It makes it about 10 times more infectious."
Other researchers have suspected this. In April, Bette Korber of Los Alamos National Laboratory and colleagues published their concerns, also on BioRxiv, calling the D614G mutation "of urgent concern" because it had become by far the most common strain spreading in Europe and the US.
Best of luck with the vaccine IMO.
I think our international borders will be shut for a long time. Domestically we should be okay to getting back to normal.https://www.9news.com.au/world/coro...suggests/66033f41-fb10-4a5c-ba24-ba733119e93e
"Sometime in the middle of January, there was a change that allowed the virus to become more infectious. It doesn't mean it's more lethal," Haseltine said.
"It makes it about 10 times more infectious."
Other researchers have suspected this. In April, Bette Korber of Los Alamos National Laboratory and colleagues published their concerns, also on BioRxiv, calling the D614G mutation "of urgent concern" because it had become by far the most common strain spreading in Europe and the US.
Best of luck with the vaccine IMO.
That will probably be true with so many exemptions it will not be funny, but agree that for common people like us, prisoners in our own countryI think our international borders will be shut for a long time. Domestically we should be okay to getting back to normal.
One way travel with quarantine.... YESThat will probably be true with so many exemptions it will not be funny, but agree that for common people like us, prisoners in our own country
The jets will carry on as will lobbies target: os students and probably even migrants
You will not see business travel with 14days quarantine, that is a given so either we end up isolating ourselves from the world or we accept reopeningOne way travel with quarantine.... YES
Business travel ... diminished but happening, and likely quarantine... YES
Short term tourism... Nah
Overseas students must NOT be allowed back into our country. If they bring the virus back into Australia or they get the virus in Australia, they may end up taking a needed ICU bed for an Australian citizen. Australians must come first and Australians have sacrificed too much to allow this to happen.That will probably be true with so many exemptions it will not be funny, but agree that for common people like us, prisoners in our own country
The jets will carry on as will lobbies target: os students and probably even migrants
One way travel with quarantine.... YES
Business travel ... diminished but happening, and likely quarantine... YES
Short term tourism... Nah
Because it hasn't had an impact on COVID infections in Victoria.Why is Daniel Andrews so quiet about all the protests taking place in Melbourne?
Coronavirus cases in Victoria rise by 18, including retail worker who attended Black Lives Matter protest (https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/12368000)Because it hasn't had an impact on COVID infections in Victoria.
There are 25 new infections which is a big jump. They have all been traced to existing outbreaks and people still congregating with families even when they know they have COVID 19.
Daniel Andrews tells reporters that half of all the new cases in Victoria since April have been from family-to-family transmission. He says he is “disappointed” by the behaviour reported by health authorities.
I’m frustrated by it, I’m disappointed by it, but it’s appropriate that we be really upfront and describe it so people can understand what’s driving these numbers.
We have had cases of people gathering in large numbers, everybody at their home or another family member’s home or a close friend’s home, even though they had been told to isolate in their own home.
We have even had people who have tested positive and have been told to go home and isolate and instead they have gone to work. Instead, they have gone and visited loved ones in large numbers. We have had many stories, numerous stories, of families that have given it to each other and have then transmitted the virus to other families, who in turn have passed it on to a third group.
It is unacceptable that families anywhere in our state can, just because they want this to be over, pretend that it is. It is not over.
....According to the press release distributed at the media conference in Melbourne this afternoon, the number of guests people can have in their home will be reduced to five, and restaurants and pubs will have to remain at the limit of 20 guests until at least 12 July.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...ses-as-australia-seeks-to-prevent-second-wave
How can Daniel Andrews be so demanding on the rest of the citizens in Victoria, yet give those that protest a free pass.
Initially it looked like he had double standards. I have a bit more respect for Daniel Andrews now.
Daniel Andrews’ simple message to protesters: ‘Go home!’
...Mr Andrews said people should not be protesting.
“I think that we could not have been clearer and I have a message for the people out there protesting today. Go home! Go home!” he said.
“You’re not doing your cause any good. And you’re potentially putting other people at risk. Could I possibly be any clearer than that?”
“The protests the other weekend, we advised against it. We urged people not to do it.
“We allowed Victoria Police to play their role. It is for them to determine what an appropriate response is and they’ve been very clear about what their response would be.
“It was peaceful. But it was certainly not helpful when it comes to the general community view about where we’re at.
https://www.news.com.au/national/vi...e/news-story/04cf6c4095d33ee2a3d22968cbb4e646
Bit hard to believe.This article expands on the ABC story.
Interestingly enough the BLM matter demonstartion appears to have resulted in no spread of any infection.
Did the black lives matter protests cause this uptick?
On Monday the Victorian chief health officer said that it wasn’t the rallies that caused this rise in cases.
“I don’t think the Black Lives Matter protest has contributed. We are not seeing people who have clearly acquired it there,” he said on Monday.
On Monday Mikakos confirmed a fourth person who attended the protest tested positive, but it’s believed they did not acquire the virus there. They were a staff member at an H&M at Northland Shopping Centre in the local government area of Darebin, which is the centre of a small cluster.
Of the around 30,000 attendees only four cases have been recorded, with no evidence that the virus was transmitted at the protest.
ttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/22/coronavirus-victoria-covid-19-melbourne-outbreak-hotspots
Bit hard to believe.
Did they trace every person at the rally?
Bit early to make this claim imo.
If it's true then they need to re-open the economy.
How do they know?Che ? The rally was 18 days ago. So far 4 people have turned up with COVID who were at the rally. However the medics have established that they became infected through other contacts.
The rally didn't cause any infections. However a handful of families are spreading the virus which is why the government is tightening controls. That was the main point of the stories I posted.
How do they know?
Covid isn't always serious enough to go to hospital. It's a bit early to say no one caught anything unless they went to every protestor and checked.
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