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Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2) outbreak discussion

Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 49.3%

  • No

    Votes: 9 12.0%

  • Bigger than SARS, but not worldwide epidemic (Black Death/bubonic plague)

    Votes: 25 33.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Total voters
    75
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moXJO said:
Sweden or US?

One is higher up on the list, neither have the highest total number of deaths as a %
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Its starting to look like a race between the US and UK for winner of most deaths as a % as 30 US states with rising infection rates reverse lock downs my money is the US will take the honours a real tragedy.

Still its a great result for the US ( Trump said) as he keeps upping the expected deaths what a great job he is doing.
 
IFocus said:
Its starting to look like a race between the US and UK for winner of most deaths as a % as 30 US states with rising infection rates reverse lock downs my money is the US will take the honours a real tragedy.

Still its a great result for the US ( Trump said) as he keeps upping the expected deaths what a great job he is doing.
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Sweden didn't bother to lockdown. They don't mind knocking off their citizens though. Plus their health care is a lot better.

Our list of top contenders in order of death per million:

San Marino
Belgium
Andorra
Spain
Italy
UK
France
Sint Maarten
Sweden
Netherlands
Ireland
Isle of Man
USA

Why is it only one of the names on the list come up for discussion I wonder.
 
rederob said:
When are you going to fact check anything you post?
If you do not know that your post is nonsense, best you do not keep shooting yourself in the foot.
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I will post whatever I like and I definitely will not fact check it!
 
SirRumpole said:
So give us a link to say why this report can't be true.
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I have done that previously and won't be repeating it.
As I have also said many times, it was known to be SARS-like from the outset, which meant human to human transmission was likely. The WHO, however, can't will nilly assume its happening, as it must be proven in order to be announced officially. Gathering that scientific evidence took some weeks.
Again, for those who care to look, the information is freely available.
 
This report covers some ground.

US claims of China coronavirus lab leak an ‘attempt to distract’ from Trump’s own mistakes: Germany
  • A German intelligence report said the allegations are a ‘calculated attempt to distract’ from Washington’s own failings
  • On Wednesday, Secretary of State Pompeo renewed his widely contested charge that the coronavirus likely originated in a Chinese lab
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/eur...onavirus-lab-leak-attempt-distract-trumps-own
 
basilio said:
This report covers some ground.

US claims of China coronavirus lab leak an ‘attempt to distract’ from Trump’s own mistakes: Germany
  • A German intelligence report said the allegations are a ‘calculated attempt to distract’ from Washington’s own failings
  • On Wednesday, Secretary of State Pompeo renewed his widely contested charge that the coronavirus likely originated in a Chinese lab
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/eur...onavirus-lab-leak-attempt-distract-trumps-own
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This links to a recent press conference in Beijing, where all the recent and most topical issues were raised by both international and Chinese media organisations.
Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Hua Chunying's replies were detailed and forthright.
The claim that China is thwarting an examination of the events and response surrounding COV19 was firmly put to bed, as were many other matters.
Of course there are many readers who will simply say it's Chinese propaganda and not worth a cracker. It's one thing to say it, however, and another to prove it. Hua's arsenal of facts was formidable and you will be hard pressed to find any misstep.
Comparing her performance to anything this year from the USA is like comparing cheese with chalk.
 
LORD PATTEN: China's nasty, lying, bullying Communist regime must face the judgment of the world over the coronavirus pandemic

As the coronavirus ravages the world – killing, shattering families, destroying jobs and businesses, ripping through economies, threatening still worse in some of the poorest countries – we know three things for certain.

First, Covid-19 began in Wuhan. Second, the early signs and spread of the virus were covered up. Third, the Chinese Communist party has consistently lied about these issues and has exploited the world’s preoccupations with fighting the pandemic to flex its muscles globally – hectoring, bullying and breaking its word.
We should be clear about something else. This is not the fault of the Chinese people. Brave Chinese doctors and nurses, like our own, have lost their lives fighting the disease.
When some tried to blow the whistle about what was happening, Communist officials used the security services to shut them up.

While medical staff were gagged, the pandemic began to spread through Wuhan in late January and February. Millions left the city and the surrounding Hubei province for their New Year holidays. They travelled within China and to other parts of the world. That is the fundamental reason why today every country is menaced.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/...mmunist-regime-face-judgment-coronavirus.html
 
dutchie said:
LORD PATTEN: China's nasty, lying, bullying Communist regime must face the judgment of the world over the coronavirus pandemic

As the coronavirus ravages the world – killing, shattering families, destroying jobs and businesses, ripping through economies, threatening still worse in some of the poorest countries – we know three things for certain.

First, Covid-19 began in Wuhan. Second, the early signs and spread of the virus were covered up. Third, the Chinese Communist party has consistently lied about these issues and has exploited the world’s preoccupations with fighting the pandemic to flex its muscles globally – hectoring, bullying and breaking its word.
We should be clear about something else. This is not the fault of the Chinese people. Brave Chinese doctors and nurses, like our own, have lost their lives fighting the disease.
When some tried to blow the whistle about what was happening, Communist officials used the security services to shut them up.

While medical staff were gagged, the pandemic began to spread through Wuhan in late January and February. Millions left the city and the surrounding Hubei province for their New Year holidays. They travelled within China and to other parts of the world. That is the fundamental reason why today every country is menaced.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/...mmunist-regime-face-judgment-coronavirus.html
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You are just spamming now Dutchie.
If there was truth to the article then Hong Kong, Taiwan and South Korea would have been riddled with deaths. But that has not been the case!
Even though Australia was slow to react, we have shown that firm measures prevent spread and reduce deaths.
In fact, almost 3 times as many Australians have died on our roads since the WHO was first notified about COV19. Many more again have died from other preventable diseases, eg 50 times as many will have died from dementia, including Alzheimer.
 
rederob said:
You are just spamming now Dutchie.
If there was truth to the article then Hong Kong, Taiwan and South Korea would have been riddled with deaths. But that has not been the case!
Even though Australia was slow to react, we have shown that firm measures prevent spread and reduce deaths.
In fact, almost 3 times as many Australians have died on our roads since the WHO was first notified about COV19. Many more again have died from other preventable diseases, eg 50 times as many will have died from dementia, including Alzheimer.
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So what you are saying is that Lord Patten is a liar.
 
This was interesting, and I do not know where the SBS got their information from.
A resolution was put forward by the ID Group - a bit like a European version of One Nation.
And the European Parliament adopted its position, which was very different from what Hunt was after.
I'm not aware of anything more recent from the EU.
 
dutchie said:
So what you are saying is that Lord Patten is a liar.
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I don't need to as the only fact he seems to have got right was that Wuhan was the first place to discover the virus, despite the fact that a French person had COV19 about 2 weeks before the WHO was notified by China.
 
basilio said:
This report covers some ground.

US claims of China coronavirus lab leak an ‘attempt to distract’ from Trump’s own mistakes: Germany
  • A German intelligence report said the allegations are a ‘calculated attempt to distract’ from Washington’s own failings
  • On Wednesday, Secretary of State Pompeo renewed his widely contested charge that the coronavirus likely originated in a Chinese lab
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/eur...onavirus-lab-leak-attempt-distract-trumps-own
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They also said:

Spiegel reported that German authorities also targeted China with criticism, citing "BND information" that Beijing pressured the World Health Organization to delay issuing a global warning after the initial outbreak in Wuhan.

"In a January 21 telephone call, Chinese President Xi Jinping asked WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus to hold back information about person-to-person transmission and delay a pandemic warning," the news weekly wrote on its website.

"According to the BND's assessment, China's information policy cost four to six weeks of time to fight the virus worldwide," Spiegel added.
 
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