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Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 49.3%

  • No

    Votes: 9 12.0%

  • Bigger than SARS, but not worldwide epidemic (Black Death/bubonic plague)

    Votes: 25 33.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Total voters
    75
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Dona Ferentes said:
Around 7-8% of the world's population is self-isolating, at present.
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It's pretty amazing stuff, it will be interesting to see if they can contain it, very good for testing isolation procedures currently in place.
It will also be a very good wake up call for cruise lines, they do have a fairly rigorous cleaning regime, but it will definitely give some info for changes that may or may not be required. Possibly to air distribution, filtration and cleaning procedures, it will certainly be testing the crew on the Diamond Princess.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02...onavirus-lockdown-as-americans-leave/11970872
From the article:
"We don't actually know the full extent of disease, the spectrum of disease — how much is mild, how much is severe," she said.

"We've never seen an animal coronavirus cross into humans and then spread.

"We've had two other events of coronaviruses going from animals into humans, but not spreading further.

"I think that we need to know what the animal host is, because these kinds of things can happen again."
 
Would the cruise ships be sharing the aircond though all the cabins?
 
IFocus said:
Would the cruise ships be sharing the aircond though all the cabins?
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They claimed not so in a news article on the weekend, all cabins have fresh air they say.

I suppose they suck fresh air into a large vent, push it down into the cabins with a completely separate exit vent which expels the stale air outside.
 
macca said:
They claimed not so in a news article on the weekend, all cabins have fresh air they say.

I suppose they suck fresh air into a large vent, push it down into the cabins with a completely separate exit vent which expels the stale air outside.
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It would be interesting to know exactly, because there is always a lot of suction when you try to open an external door, it feels like a seal.
 
All notices regarding the virus in government buildings and websites.

If you have booked the Grand Prix or any travel prior, you are insured.
 
An article that reinforces what we have been saying, since the outbreak of the virus, PEOPLE DON"T WASH THEIR HANDS.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/the...o-don-t-wash-their-hands-20200217-p541lp.html
From the article:
Many nasty bugs, including many serious respiratory infections, are shed in the stool of infected people. The germs get onto the toilet seat, and then onto the hands of anyone else who touches the seat.


If that person touches their mouth before washing their hands, the bugs can enter their body and cause disease.

SARS may have spread through this route. COVID-19, the novel coronavirus that has infected more than 70,000 people around the world, is closely related to SARS and probably spreads in a similar manner, experts say.

That makes washing your hands after using the toilet essential. Nurses and doctors who treated SARS patients were less likely to catch the disease if they washed their hands regularly, studies suggest.

Unfortunately, many healthcare workers are not great at washing their hands either. Hand-washing compliance dropped from 94 per cent at one major Sydney hospital to just 30 per centwhen human auditors stopped monitoring people’s behaviour.
But don't overdo handwashing. Experts recommend soap and water instead of harsh antibacterials.
Your hands are home to a community of healthy bacteria, which depend on the skin's natural oils to survive.
When you wash your hands with soap and water, viruses and bacteria that do not belong on the skin get washed away. But healthy bacteria are capable of hanging on and surviving.
Overusing harsh antibacterial soaps may kill those healthy bugs, creating more room for unhealthy bugs to take hold.


This has become a BIG issue, when nursing was taught in hospitals, it was hammered into the nurses to continually wash their hands.
Now with the advent of cheap disposable gloves and a training being done remote from the workplace, it probably has become less re-enforced, well I know it has.
Also as the article says, the antibacterial lotions are not as good as soap and water, people aren't correctly informed of this, the article is very well put together.IMO (or I should say, in the wife's opinion:rolleyes:)
 
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Australia is expected to extend its China travel ban for another week amid ongoing fears over the spread of the coronavirus, locking out hundreds of thousands of students and tourists from entering the country.

The move, which will be debated by cabinet's national security committee on Thursday or Friday, is set to compound the economic impact of the virus and frustrate the Chinese government as it looks to bring the fall-out from the virus under control.

The extension is expected to last another week from Saturday, taking the time of the travel ban out to a month and preventing all non-Australian residents travelling from China from entering the country until February 29.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fed...vel-ban-for-another-week-20200219-p542bo.html
 
At least the Government didn't give in and let people come straight back to the Country. If it gets into here, we will all have to go bush, probably move in with Rumpy or Macca.:xyxthumbs
 
sptrawler said:
At least the Government didn't give in and let people come straight back to the Country. If it gets into here, we will all have to go bush, probably move in with Rumpy or Macca.:xyxthumbs
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No good coming here SP, I live near a tourist hot spot that has up to 500 Asian tourist a Day visit and all the staff steering the boats etc are all local Aussies.

Maybe we need to be wearing masks when we go to the shopping centre here
 
sptrawler said:
It's pretty amazing stuff, it will be interesting to see if they can contain it, very good for testing isolation procedures currently in place.
It will also be a very good wake up call for cruise lines, they do have a fairly rigorous cleaning regime, but it will definitely give some info for changes that may or may not be required. Possibly to air distribution, filtration and cleaning procedures, it will certainly be testing the crew on the Diamond Princess.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02...onavirus-lockdown-as-americans-leave/11970872
From the article:
"We don't actually know the full extent of disease, the spectrum of disease — how much is mild, how much is severe," she said.

"We've never seen an animal coronavirus cross into humans and then spread.

"We've had two other events of coronaviruses going from animals into humans, but not spreading further.

"I think that we need to know what the animal host is, because these kinds of things can happen again."
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They will be unable to contain it as it spreads like flu. Historically quarantine procedures dont work for flu so no reason why it would work for COVID19. Might slow down the spread though.
 
bluekelah said:
They will be unable to contain it as it spreads like flu. Historically quarantine procedures dont work for flu so no reason why it would work for COVID19. Might slow down the spread though.
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All good practise for when it is really needed, 1% fatality rate isnt pandemic stuff, but the contageous rate is high.
So all good practice.
Using phone excuse errors.lol
 
We are in a delaying tactic allowing the refinement of treatment and a vaccine within a year and a half.don't think more can be done.
i expect to have it or its mutated version within 2 y.
will it become seasonal as the "common" flu or will it just spread over the world and die?
I noticed that qantas is reaching highs whereas all airlines are offering killing deals... literally?
 
a Global Times report ... said a central Beijing hospital reported 36 new cases.

The report said those infected at Fuxing Hospital in Xicheng district were eight medical workers, nine cleaning staff and 19 patients along with their families, leading many to fear a potential explosion in infection numbers in the capital.
 
sptrawler said:
By the way, how does flu spread?
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Much the same way as COVID19, air, touch or deep tongue kissing :eek:

Every February I buy a bottle of Blackmores Vit D 1000 x 200 capsules, take one a day, works better than a flu jab but can still have jab if I wish.

Eat oranges etc for Vit C or take a Vit C supp.

Been doing it for 10 years and I have not had a cold or flu since, why did I start? used to have the sniffles for months each winter
 
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