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Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2) outbreak discussion

Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 49.3%
  • No

    Votes: 9 12.0%
  • Bigger than SARS, but not worldwide epidemic (Black Death/bubonic plague)

    Votes: 25 33.3%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 5.3%

  • Total voters
    75
One of my Brothers has also gone in for heart tests after having a reaction to the booster.
He has always been a candidate for heart problems as he drinks too much, has always been overweight, and has a terrible diet.
He is blaming the booster shot, the rest of us are blaming 60 years of unhealthy living.
Mick
I've been training for a while now. Drink once or twice a year. Although I did pack on weight to stay closer to my sons weight class.
I actually had multiple reactions to the first shot.
Second shot was fine.
 
I've been training for a while now. Drink once or twice a year. Although I did pack on weight to stay closer to my sons weight class.
I actually had multiple reactions to the first shot.
Second shot was fine.
Brother had two shots of AZ, then the third was Pfizer.
Thats the only difference, he was still obese, drank too much, and lived on takeaways.
He has now sworn off the booze as he is on a restricted fluid intake, with plenty of diuretics to get some of the fluid out of his system.
Time will tell whether it does him any good.
Can't do much exercise, but may have to now that his only means of transport, his old car, has finally had enough and blown a piston through the side of the block. Like him, it will probably need a transplant.
Mick
 
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"Karens" have a sense of entitlement and abuse it by deliberately and often demandingly exercising it on others.
In every sense they are interventionists.

On covid matters Karens might consider mask mandates as not applicable to them while simultaneously demanding that others abide by social distancing.
Some say the male equivalent is a Kevin or Ken but I prefer Waynal
 
Brother had two shots of AZ, then the third was Pfizer.
Thats the only difference, he was still obese, drank too much, and lived on takeaways.
He has now sworn off the booze as he is on a restricted fluid intake, with plenty of diuretics to get some of the fluid out of his system.
Time will tell whether it does him any good.
Can't do much exercise, but may have to now that his only means of transport, his old car, has finally had enough and blown a piston through the side of the block. Like him, it will probably need a transplant.
Mick
I suppose he is a prime example of someone that would have complications from catching covid.

One thing this pandemic has done is make people assess where they are on the health scale.
 
Brother had two shots of AZ, then the third was Pfizer.
Thats the only difference, he was still obese, drank too much, and lived on takeaways.
He has now sworn off the booze as he is on a restricted fluid intake, with plenty of diuretics to get some of the fluid out of his system.
Time will tell whether it does him any good.
Can't do much exercise, but may have to now that his only means of transport, his old car, has finally had enough and blown a piston through the side of the block. Like him, it will probably need a transplant.
Mick
You wonder whether the large increase in heart disease is really just people realising they have a problem.
 
You wonder whether the large increase in heart disease is really just people realising they have a problem.
Well, one of the outcomes of some of the health system changes in Victoria at least, has been the huge curtailing of non covid ossues.
Elective surgery cut right back, face to face visits to medicos to show them the lumps on your back or listen to the wheese in your chest.
I suspect there will be plenty of undiagnosed issues like that of my brother within the community.
Mick
 
I suppose he is a prime example of someone that would have complications from catching covid.

One thing this pandemic has done is make people assess where they are on the health scale.

we have friends that we are not game to visit, if they get it they are in big trouble.

Family are the type to blame everyone or thing except the spare 60kgs each they have in case of starvation
 
On mandates, from the ever sensible Gemma Tognini

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Deaths in the last 7 days = 1,028
Deaths in the last 7 days = 345
Deaths in the last 7 days = 11,898
Deaths in the last 7 days = 1,150
Deaths in the last 7 days = 5,886
 
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Surreal that after 2 years I still haven't met anyone who has had it

I have. And all have been confirmed with PCR Tests. The RAT Tests (in what l have seen so far) have a 50% error rate (possibly more). I don't trust RAT's anymore at all. Hot garbage. Last week 4 people at worked tested positive RAT, did a PCR later that day and all came back negative.

As I have mentioned earlier, everyone at my workplace, one by one, is testing positive to Covid-19 - confirmed with PCR Test.
What is interesting so far is that the older people (50+) seem to have milder symptoms (sore throat for 1 day at best) than the younger workers (30 - 40 year olds) 2 - 3 days.
 
Was busy out last night in town. Pubs and clubs were packed. I think covid is over for now in nsw. Masks are going next week. About bloody time.

Might be another outbreak come winter. But I think the ridiculousness of it all is over
 
moXJO - exactly. QLD won't be far behind. I have family all over the world at the moment, and Australia and NZ are pretty much the last ones standing. Both countries have done well (for total deaths), but we have been extremely luck in the fact that Delta was contained for a while and just as Delta started to break out, along came Omicron.
 
When or if, the next pandemic comes, we will have the purpose built quarantine facilities.
As long as they haven't become dilapidated ruins by then.
I wonder if maintenance will be a Federal or State function, I guess we will have to wait and see, when they are required in a few years time and who will wear the blame if they are dilapidated. Maybe they can be used as a detention centre after the election?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-20/victoria-mickleham-quarantine-facility-open/100845058
From the article:
Melbourne’s $580 million purpose-built quarantine facility is getting ready to welcome its first quarantine patients next week, but with COVID-19 case numbers on the decline it is only anticipating up to 10 guests on day one.
The Centre for National Resilience in Mickleham will eventually be able to accommodate up to 1,000 people, but when it opens on Monday only 500 beds will be available and few will be occupied.

"We're imagining small numbers, seven to 10 [residents] on Monday, and then we're just going to need to see as that grows," Police Minister Lisa Neville said.

For the first time the federal government, which is funding the facility, has confirmed the expected cost of completion is $580 million.
It will be the most expensive of several centres set to be built around the country.

During a media tour of the facility, some of the beds featured towels folded into the shape of white elephants.

The Mickleham facility is built and owned by the federal government, but will be operated by the Victorian government for the duration of the COVID-19 pandemic.
But the state government also sees a future for the facility beyond this pandemic.

"You might be able to provide emergency housing in bushfire times for example," Ms Neville said.

"It is built to be able to provide, feed people, care for people in a really nice space
 

Boris Johnson to end forced self-isolation after positive Covid test in England


PM to announce end to legal duty to quarantine next week as part of ‘living with Covid’ measures​
The prime minister is to announce the end of the legal duty to self-isolate after testing positive for Covid-19 next week.​
Downing Street said Boris Johnson will lay out his intentions to repeal all pandemic regulations that restrict public freedoms in England as part of his “living with Covid” plan on Monday.​
Johnson will also tell MPs returning to parliament after February recess that the country can rely on the vaccine programme, testing, and new treatments to keep people safe.​
The prime minister said: “Covid will not suddenly disappear, and we need to learn to live with this virus and continue to protect ourselves without restricting our freedoms. We’ve built up strong protections against this virus over the past two years through the vaccine rollouts, tests, new treatments, and the best scientific understanding of what this virus can do.​
“Thanks to our successful vaccination programme and the sheer magnitude of people who have come forward to be jabbed, we are now in a position to set out our plan for living with Covid this week.”​
By the end of the week, local authorities will be required to manage outbreaks with pre-existing public health powers.​
Pharmaceutical interventions will “continue to be our first line of defence”, with the vaccine programme remaining “open to anyone who has not yet come forward”, Downing Street added.​

 
 
This could be a watershed moment in the whole pandemic ruse.
 
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