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Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2) outbreak discussion

Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 49.3%

  • No

    Votes: 9 12.0%

  • Bigger than SARS, but not worldwide epidemic (Black Death/bubonic plague)

    Votes: 25 33.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Total voters
    75
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DB008 said:
Why they were told to wear masks in the first place with a 99.99% survival rate is beyond me. Then they have been told to get 3 shots, even if they have had Covid-19. WTF...

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Unfortunately Covid-19 may have some subsequent very serious cardiac effects in those affected from a recent article in Nature Medicine.

Their findings suggest severity of cardiac effects is proportional to the severity of the original illness.

It is only one study so let us hope further studies show different, otherwise the burden of Covid-19 will last a long, long time.

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Latest Australian Omicron Covid data. Honestly, as my sister said, why so long to release data and why not announce it more reguarly? She knew this weeks ago.

Vaccination data reveals booster effectiveness​

The Victorian health department has released figures showing people who'd had two doses of COVID-19 vaccine were more than seven times more likely to end up in intensive care if they contract the virus than someone with three doses.

The department used figures from early February to evaluate the chances of a person with different levels of vaccine coverage needing greater hospital care.

It found someone who was unvaccinated was 4.5 times more likely to end up in ICU than someone who had had two doses of vaccine, and 34 times more likely to need intensive care than someone who had had a booster.

The department said people with three doses of vaccine made up 7.9 per cent of cases in ICU, but made up 45.9 per cent of the general adult population.

People who had had a booster were 88 per cent less likely to die from a COVID-19 infection than someone with no doses of vaccine.

"The data is clear that getting your third dose will significantly reduce your chances of going to hospital, going to ICU or dying from COVID-19," a spokesperson for the health department said.
 
Knobby22 said:
Latest Australian Omicron Covid data. Honestly, as my sister said, why so long to release data and why not announce it more reguarly? She knew this weeks ago.

Vaccination data reveals booster effectiveness​

The Victorian health department has released figures showing people who'd had two doses of COVID-19 vaccine were more than seven times more likely to end up in intensive care if they contract the virus than someone with three doses.

The department used figures from early February to evaluate the chances of a person with different levels of vaccine coverage needing greater hospital care.

It found someone who was unvaccinated was 4.5 times more likely to end up in ICU than someone who had had two doses of vaccine, and 34 times more likely to need intensive care than someone who had had a booster.

The department said people with three doses of vaccine made up 7.9 per cent of cases in ICU, but made up 45.9 per cent of the general adult population.

People who had had a booster were 88 per cent less likely to die from a COVID-19 infection than someone with no doses of vaccine.

"The data is clear that getting your third dose will significantly reduce your chances of going to hospital, going to ICU or dying from COVID-19," a spokesperson for the health department said.
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just a cold mate .....
 
Knobby22 said:
Latest Australian Omicron Covid data. Honestly, as my sister said, why so long to release data and why not announce it more reguarly? She knew this weeks ago.

Vaccination data reveals booster effectiveness​

The Victorian health department has released figures showing people who'd had two doses of COVID-19 vaccine were more than seven times more likely to end up in intensive care if they contract the virus than someone with three doses.

The department used figures from early February to evaluate the chances of a person with different levels of vaccine coverage needing greater hospital care.

It found someone who was unvaccinated was 4.5 times more likely to end up in ICU than someone who had had two doses of vaccine, and 34 times more likely to need intensive care than someone who had had a booster.

The department said people with three doses of vaccine made up 7.9 per cent of cases in ICU, but made up 45.9 per cent of the general adult population.

People who had had a booster were 88 per cent less likely to die from a COVID-19 infection than someone with no doses of vaccine.

"The data is clear that getting your third dose will significantly reduce your chances of going to hospital, going to ICU or dying from COVID-19," a spokesperson for the health department said.
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For what age bracket?
I think it's for over 60.

To add:
Safety study, cancer study

Another Israeli study, published in The New England Journal of Medicine on September 16, reveals that the Pfizer vaccine was not associated with an elevated risk of adverse events such as Bell’s palsy, appendicitis and herpes zoster infection, among others, yet it was associated with an excess risk of myocarditis (1 to 5 events per 100,000 people).

However, the researchers found that the risk of myocarditis and of many other serious adverse events was substantially increased after SARS-CoV-2 infection – suggesting it’s safer to get the vaccine than the disease.

Meanwhile, a study by Belong.Life, an Israeli developer of social and professional networks for managing and navigating various diseases and patient journeys, shows that the relative risk of non-vaccinated cancer patients being infected with Covid-19 is 21.5 times higher than that of those who are vaccinated.

Among more than 1,000 “Belong – Beating Cancer Together” users receiving the Covid-19 vaccine, 97% did not experience major side effects from the shot. Of the 49% who received the vaccine during active cancer treatment, 96% did not have to delay, interrupt or cease therapy to get their vaccine.

The research, which is the first large report on real-world data obtained voluntarily from cancer patients, is being presented at the ESMO Virtual Congress 2021.
 
moXJO said:
For what age bracket?
I think it's for over 60.

To add:
Safety study, cancer study

Another Israeli study, published in The New England Journal of Medicine on September 16, reveals that the Pfizer vaccine was not associated with an elevated risk of adverse events such as Bell’s palsy, appendicitis and herpes zoster infection, among others, yet it was associated with an excess risk of myocarditis (1 to 5 events per 100,000 people).

However, the researchers found that the risk of myocarditis and of many other serious adverse events was substantially increased after SARS-CoV-2 infection – suggesting it’s safer to get the vaccine than the disease.

Meanwhile, a study by Belong.Life, an Israeli developer of social and professional networks for managing and navigating various diseases and patient journeys, shows that the relative risk of non-vaccinated cancer patients being infected with Covid-19 is 21.5 times higher than that of those who are vaccinated.

Among more than 1,000 “Belong – Beating Cancer Together” users receiving the Covid-19 vaccine, 97% did not experience major side effects from the shot. Of the 49% who received the vaccine during active cancer treatment, 96% did not have to delay, interrupt or cease therapy to get their vaccine.

The research, which is the first large report on real-world data obtained voluntarily from cancer patients, is being presented at the ESMO Virtual Congress 2021.
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Everyone though obviously age is a major factor for ending up in hospital so I would expect the vast majority of inpatients are over 60.
However this also works for other effects such as mycarditis as confirmed by the study you have quoted which can effect youth.
 
Interesting how much flack Scomo copped for saying we need to identify the source, two years ago.
Now everyone recognises the severity of the problem.
I can see why Leigh Sales is fed up with the trolling, she has not only been trolled but has trolled for years. Lol
Getting any sensible unbiased, un paid for information is problematic.
There hasnt been many vaccines Ive known, that require renewing every 4 months.
Why, is the virus a lot worse than just problematic, for those with underlying health issues?
If so how much worse, why the panic?
 
From The Telegraph
Nicola Sturgeon is facing more pressure to ditch her draconian approach to Covid-19 restrictions after an analysis showed it had not prevented Scottish death rates from rising above England’s during the delta and omicron waves.

The Scottish Tories said it was time for the First Minister to trust Scots to take personal responsibility for how they manage the risks of the virus and claimed the data cast doubts over the effectiveness of her strategy of “bringing in restrictions on a whim”.

The Financial Times found that despite the SNP maintaining a legal requirement to wear face coverings in public places last summer and introducing vaccine passports, this did not stop death rates rising above England, where the measures were not in place.

England is to end all its Covid regulations on Feb 24 while Wales has indicated that its rules are likely to be replaced by guidance next month. Northern Ireland lifted its Covid laws on Tuesday.

Ms Sturgeon is to set out her plan for “living with Covid” next week but has previously indicated that mask laws at least will remain for the foreseeable future.
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No need to comment.
Mick
 
wayneL said:
That's one way to parse it Have we received the invoice for that yet?
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We could pay from pocket money, but other countries have had to crack open their vaults:
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"According to official statistics, COVID-19 was the leading cause of death in France, Spain, the United Kingdom, and several U.S. states. But after accounting for undercounting of COVID-19 deaths, it was the leading cause of death in the United States, Iran, and Poland (all were second-leading before adjusting to account for total deaths due to COVID-19). COVID-19 was the leading cause of death in the Region of the Americas and the third leading cause of death in the European Region."
 
JUST IN - #Switzerland is lifting almost all Covid restrictions starting tomorrow, including vaccine passports and mask mandates (except for public transport and health facilities).

As of April 1, the country's COVID taskforce will be disbanded and the "special situation" due to the pandemic will end. The remaining mask and isolation requirements then end, too.

JUST IN - Netherlands to go "back to normal," almost all Covid restrictions will be lifted by February 25, the health minister announced.

"We are now in a different phase. A lot of people are infected, but the picture of hospital occupancy is completely different. It remains virtually stable," Ernst Kuipers said.


Meanwhile WA is going flat out with its contact traces to find out the source new infections... Lol. Hang in there my fellow comrades in WA, we will get through this soon.

WA is about 6 months behind QLD
Which is about 6 months behind NSW Which is about 6 months behind Europe...
 
Knobby22 said:
Well done Australia!
And in WA it wouldn't make the list at all!
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Curiously, WA makes the top of the list for fear and paranoia with lots of family, friendships, and business relationships being destroyed.

I am collecting quite a litany of anecdotes of totally over the top terrified behaviour, over a cold.
 
Age demographic slews in each country would have a huge impact on numbers of deaths.
The fact Australia is surrounded by ocean shouldn't escape notice either.
 
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