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Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 49.3%

  • No

    Votes: 9 12.0%

  • Bigger than SARS, but not worldwide epidemic (Black Death/bubonic plague)

    Votes: 25 33.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Total voters
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Israel has gone into a fourth Jab of anit virus Vax in recent times, but the latest results suggest that the fourth Jab does not provide much at all. Israel has had half a million of its citizens onto a fourth injection, but still the virus runs rampant.

FromTodays Australian
Israel experienced its highest daily number of new Covid cases this week – 71,000 out of a population of 9 million – but the head of country’s health department, Nahman Ash, concedes the number may be up to three times higher. Whichever figure is correct, the trend is certain: case numbers have been rising every day for the past two weeks, as the Omicron wave surges.
“Ninety-eight per cent of our patients are now infected with Omicron,” says Dror Mevorach, who heads the Covid ward at Hadassah hospital in Jerusalem.
From the start, Israel has been proactive, pioneering mass vaccinations and the third booster shot. Once it became clear that the largest numbers of vaccinated people contracting the Omicron variant were older, Israel last month initiated a fourth vaccine booster for those over 60, as well as frontline medical workers and the immuno-compromised.

As a fourth shot had not been approved by US regulatory authorities, the Sheba Medical Centre near Tel Aviv began a trial, testing its effect on its staff, who have been monitored since December 2020, when they received the first dose of the vaccine. Preliminary results released this week have found only middling results.

“The vaccine, which was very effective against the previous strains, is less effective against Omicron,” said Gili Regev-Yochay, who is leading the trial.

“We see many who receive the fourth dose and are infected with Omicron. Granted, a bit less than in the control group, but there are still a lot of infections. The bottom line is that the vaccine was excellent against the Alpha and Delta variants, but for Omicron it’s not good enough.”

The trial, which follows 150 medical staff, is much smaller than most drug trials, where thousands of participants are tracked for months. But Dr Regev-Yochay says she released the preliminary findings because it’s the only known study of the fourth dose. She added it was still probably beneficial to give a fourth jab to people in higher risk groups including the very elderly, but hinted that perhaps it need not be given to everyone over 60.
More than 500,000 Israelis have received a fourth dose, and Dr Alroy-Preis says with hindsight it was still the right decision. “A five to six fold increase in antibodies is better than nothing and this is the most vulnerable section of the community,” she said.
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Mick
 
Mark Macgowan has backtracked on his promise to open up the Country called WA to foreigners, and copped a bit of flack.
I had a quick look at this caption from the ABC , and the hearing impaired translator seemed to be giving a pretty good translation of what Macgowans attitude to everybody might be.
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Knobby22 said:
Threr are a lot of side effects that the virus can give you. Stroke, heart inflammation, etc. The family is convinced, we weren't there.

She was under its effects probably trying not to worry them. As you know, I know a person in her 40s who has ruined lungs from it.

There is always some doubt in everything in life and death but 57 year olds don't normally die that easy. I reckon it is highly likely the virus was a factor. (Same age as Keanu Reaves and myself and we still look pretty good).

Also being vaccinated doesn’t stop you catching it and spreading it. You know that personally Moxjo. It just lets your body fight it faster because it has been primed.
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It's more likely it was a blood clot. I don't believe it was "choking to death". If you are going to use a death to push a cause, then let the facts come out. Was it omicron or delta?
I was reading through comments and people think omicron is a death sentence. The fear is unjustified.

From what I understand, the recovery phase can involve heart attacks, various blood clots etc.
 
Knobby22 said:
Latest poll published today shows Dan's lead has increased and he would rout the opposition again at the next election.
I think all the hate memes just make him stronger.
I am surprised.
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There's a reason for that, Victorians. ;)

au.news.yahoo.com

'Show some respect': Australian Open rocked by 'disgusting' scenes

Daniil Medvedev was forced to ask the crowd to 'show some respect' after his win over Nick Kyrgios. Read all the details here.
au.news.yahoo.com au.news.yahoo.com

Or this one. ?
www.theage.com.au

Medvedev slams booing fans, Kyrgios says tennis needs to engage with fans or ‘die out’

For the second straight match involving the local favourite, his opponent complained afterwards of the disrespectful treatment they were given by hostile fans in the crowd booing and sledging.
www.theage.com.au www.theage.com.au

Medvedev slams Melbourne fans for having a low IQ.:whistling:
 
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mullokintyre said:
Mark Macgowan has backtracked on his promise to open up the Country called WA to foreigners, and copped a bit of flack.
I had a quick look at this caption from the ABC , and the hearing impaired translator seemed to be giving a pretty good translation of what Macgowans attitude to everybody might be.
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He was just waiting for an excuse, record surpluses, record country W.A tourism spend, more work than workers, what's not to like. :whistling:

Hopefully when covid does eventually hit W.A, it isn't a really nasty strain.
 
sptrawler said:
He was just waiting for an excuse, record surpluses, record country W.A tourism spend, more work than workers, what's not to like. :whistling:

Hopefully when covid does eventually hit W.A, it isn't a really nasty strain.
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They can pretty much stay closed as it's all mining.
Personally I wouldn't notice if they lock down for 5 years. Definitely a cult mentality lining up over there. Unfortunately today's hero's are often tomorrow's villains. Reminds me of the way Canada went.
 
moXJO said:
It's more likely it was a blood clot.

From what I understand, the recovery phase can involve heart attacks, various blood clots etc.
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Good points @moXJO Covid is essentially a clotting disease so unfortunately in Ms Horka's case, that makes sense.

Of course, we know that the vaccines are also known to cause clotting issues in some people, so it appears the media reporting in this case is presenting an unnecessary bias for the sake of yet another headline.

Not good journalism in my view, to the point of being disrespectful to the deceased and her family. :(
 
barney said:
I'm old fashioned and not particularly tech savvy @Knobby22 ...

What does this mean/and what are you referring to?? (Sorry if that is a dumb question) I am an old b@stard, lol
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Its a short video with the latest Covid rules that don't really work. Very funny, not political but a bit tragic also. Click on the picture.
 
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Knobby22 said:
Its a short video with the latest Covid rules that don't really work. Very funny, not political but a bit tragic also. Click on the picture.
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Lol .... For some reason the "picture" did not show up till today on my computer

Anyway, now I understand .....Crack up, lol :bucktooth:
 
IFocus said:
What screw it up ? ?
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Well the media is beginning to roll the narrative over, from the guy is an idiot, to it looks like what he said was right and it might be working.
Not that the media will ever put like that.

www.abc.net.au

These eight charts suggest Australia may have reached its Omicron peak, with one state ahead of the rest

The evidence is firming up that at least one state — New South Wales — has reached its hospitalisation peak for this wave of the pandemic.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
From the article:
The evidence is firming up that at least one state — New South Wales — has reached its hospitalisation peak for this wave of the pandemic.

It comes as new figures show the overall burden on the health system is lower than scenario modelling released by the government at the start of the year.

The silver lining to a deadly week in NSW also gives us some hints about when other states might reach a peak in the Omicron wave, while case numbers remain tricky to interpret.
 
""A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." Winston Churchill

It seems the truth may be at last be getting its pants on.

 
sptrawler said:
Well the media is beginning to roll the narrative over, from the guy is an idiot, to it looks like what he said was right and it might be working.
Not that the media will ever put like that.

www.abc.net.au

These eight charts suggest Australia may have reached its Omicron peak, with one state ahead of the rest

The evidence is firming up that at least one state — New South Wales — has reached its hospitalisation peak for this wave of the pandemic.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
From the article:
The evidence is firming up that at least one state — New South Wales — has reached its hospitalisation peak for this wave of the pandemic.

It comes as new figures show the overall burden on the health system is lower than scenario modelling released by the government at the start of the year.

The silver lining to a deadly week in NSW also gives us some hints about when other states might reach a peak in the Omicron wave, while case numbers remain tricky to interpret.
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You would have to hope what's happened is worth it, I wonder if we just get another variant and press replay guess no one really knows.
 
IFocus said:
You would have to hope what's happened is worth it, I wonder if we just get another variant and press replay guess no one really knows.
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That is what worries me, it is ok to keep a lid on it, but eventually alladin will get out of the lamp, I just hope when that happens in W.A it isnt a really bad variant.
 
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