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Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2) outbreak discussion

Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 49.3%

  • No

    Votes: 9 12.0%

  • Bigger than SARS, but not worldwide epidemic (Black Death/bubonic plague)

    Votes: 25 33.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Total voters
    75
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bellenuit said:
Same here. I sit outside now and keep away from others. I usually go for a coffee to also read the daily papers the cafe offers. Shared papers too will become a health hazard. Much as I like the physical paper, it might be worth taking out an online subscription to my favourites, at least for the next few months.
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the cafe attendants as well though, and whatever they're spreading. it would be a potential hotspot i suppose, and the toilets. I REALLY loved my daily caps. might get a cheap machine
 
Smurf1976 said:
Methylated spirits is just over 95% ethanol with the rest being water and a minor amount of bittering agent to discourage anyone from drinking it.

It needs to be 70%+ concentration to kill viruses on contact.

Isopropyl alcohol is completely different. I suppose it would kill viruses but no idea what strength you'd need so no comment there. :2twocents
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just mix it with water then, at that ratio, in a little bottle? and apply it on my hands ? but does it last for a day, or much longer?
 
got this tip online that it's good to gargle salt and water (we've all heard this). might experiment with doing that often. and carry 2 thermos with both that and warm liquid. just assume i'll get it and i'm working on killing it often a few times a day.


the usual stuff too - keep the throat moist by sipping warm liquid often. that way you swallow the virus. you want to stop it in it's tracks before it travels down the wind pipe and then into the lung.

had a normal cold now for a little over 2 weeks. just a little coughing now. but it is lingering on me. never had a fever though. probably delayed it by staying out in the cold and doing stuff.
 
grah33 said:
can i just do 2:1 with water instead, and put it in a little bottle?

i take it meth is same as isopropyl?
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I think soap is added to balance dryness and evaporation.i would bet any shampoo, glycerine, etc would do in anycase, it will kill the virus, after, may not be best hand cream but...
 
MrChow said:
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...logical-research-institute-develope-1.8665074

Scientists at Israel’s Institute for Biological Research are expected to announce in the coming days that they have completed development of a vaccine for the new coronavirus COVID-19.
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I am looking forward to it, the market will boom, plenty of shorting opportunities die to irrational exuberance.
I genuinely wish it will but needed tests will take months and months and if there is no proper testing well we might see the damages in a couple of years ...
 
Miss Hale said:
Yes, I've bought it there before but I suspect that it will all be gone from there too.
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Make your own ; Few days of fementing up a 44 of some sour mash, into the gin rig and whammo...
What doesn't everybody have one?

'40lbs'o yeast and some copper line'
'everybody knew's they was make'n moonshine'
'CopperHead rowwwww' boomm ..boomm ..boomm....''

Every thing Dutton has touched has to be disinfected...
who would have thought.. ?
just mentioning anything about him makes me feel unclean.
 
Smurf1976 said:
Methylated spirits is just over 95% ethanol with the rest being water and a minor amount of bittering agent to discourage anyone from drinking it.

It needs to be 70%+ concentration to kill viruses on contact.

Isopropyl alcohol is completely different. I suppose it would kill viruses but no idea what strength you'd need so no comment there. :2twocents
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yep I know that. 2:1 will be about 66% alcohol which is pretty good too, just have to rub a bit more and a few seconds longer to get the same effect. Plus 2:1 is easy to measure up in cups. If you wanna go 70% just add half a cup more should do the trick.

Isopropyl alcohol is the same story, 70% is the effective proportion. Manufaturers use Metho in the cheap shelf sanitisers. Hospital grade ones they use isopropyl as it more expensive and leave no residue.
 
grah33 said:
can i just do 2:1 with water instead, and put it in a little bottle?

i take it meth is same as isopropyl?
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Yes and yes.

The meth 2 to 1 mix with water is whats used in abattoirs I have been told the water is as important as the methylated spirits in the mix.
 
Clinical studies conducted by doctors in China, the company noted, suggest that anti-IL-6R MAbs may be used to treat COVID-19 patients who have lung damage and elevated IL-6 levels. Tiziana’s anti-IL-6R MAb binds the membrane-bound and soluble forms of IL-6R, depleting IL-6 levels in the blood. Excessive IL-6 is believed to drive chronic inflammation and is thought to be associated with the severe lung damage observed with COVID-19 infections.
https://www.bioworld.com/articles/433708-covid-19-drug-development-continues-to-surge
 
Klogg said:
Creating a vaccine isn't the problem. Going through clinical trials, getting FDA approval and producing en masse is what takes the time.
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China may not be the first with a vaccine that works, but I think they will be the first to the market with one that works. They will likely skip the trials that take place with animals etc and test directly with humans, probably on prisoners. If there are no serious side effects, then it will be released to the general population. Whether governments of other countries then chose to use it or not will depend on how serious a problem they have with COVID-19.
 
IFocus said:
Yes and yes.

The meth 2 to 1 mix with water is whats used in abattoirs I have been told the water is as important as the methylated spirits in the mix.
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Methylated spirits ("metho") is a mixture of ethyl alcohol (95%) and methyl alcohol (5%). The methyl alcohol is poisonous and is added to prevent the methylated spirits being used as cheap drinking alcohol.
 
bellenuit said:
China may not be the first with a vaccine that works, but I think they will be the first to the market with one that works. They will likely skip the trials that take place with animals etc and test directly with humans, probably on prisoners. If there are no serious side effects, then it will be released to the general population. Whether governments of other countries then chose to use it or not will depend on how serious a problem they have with COVID-19.
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That's where common folk think of vaccines too simply.

There is a testing phase on humans where you have to test on healthy people then get them infected to see if it works. And another phase you have to test on sick people and see if it works.

both phases take time and even in china its gonna take half year at least. A few months countries in Europe dont have.

thats assuming they can find a vaccine. Its been so many years since SARS and MERS and still no vaccine for either.
 
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