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Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2) outbreak discussion

Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 49.3%

  • No

    Votes: 9 12.0%

  • Bigger than SARS, but not worldwide epidemic (Black Death/bubonic plague)

    Votes: 25 33.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Total voters
    75
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It seems that Facebook has labelled this report "fake news",

<<The report upon which the faulty narrative is based analyzed only a narrow set of 483 pieces of content over six weeks from only 30 groups, some of which are as small as 2,500 users. They are in no way representative of the hundreds of millions of posts that people have shared about COVID-19 vaccines in the past months on Facebook. Further, there is no explanation for how the organization behind the report identified the content they describe as “anti-vax” or how they chose the 30 groups they included in their analysis. There is no justification for their claim that their data constitute a “representative sample” of the content shared across our apps. >>

How We’re Taking Action Against Vaccine Misinformation Superspreaders | Meta

We've removed over 3,000 accounts, Pages and groups for repeatedly violating our rules against spreading COVID-19 and vaccine misinformation.
about.fb.com
 
martaart077 said:
So seems we dodged a bullet, or just maybe covid isn't quite as infectious as has been made out.
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Most likely the former. The reported transmissibility of COVID would have been based on results gleaned from millions of cases throughout the world. There will be many factors that determine its infectiousness, including the amount and nature of contact with an infected person as well as general environmental conditions in the area where contact occurs. But the person infected also plays an important part. Some people shed far more virus, and for a longer period of time, than others, perhaps because of differences in their immune system or the distribution of virus receptors in their body. A 2019 study of healthy people showed some breathe out many more particles than others when they talk. (The volume at which they spoke explained some of the variation.) People's behavior also plays a role. Having many social contacts or not washing your hands makes you more likely to pass on the virus. So results obtained from observations of those who came in contact with a single infected person is unlikely to be representative of general infectiousness. The later requires observations over a much larger population base.

Science | AAAS

www.science.org
 
John Hopkins published an interesting article (it was an opinion piece only) earlier this year on the difficulties in conducting such studies , for example requiring a large number of participants with daily testing and tracing. Fascinating stuff - at least to me.

Took a while but I've rediscovered the link.

Vaccination, Transmission, and Masks - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center

COVID-19 VACCINE MATTERS: A blog series discussing the evolving science and policy of COVID-19 vaccines, led by internationally renowned experts in vaccine development, Dr. Larry Corey of the Univeristy of Washington, and Dr. Chris Beyrer of Johns Hopkins University.
coronavirus.jhu.edu
 
Well we will soon see if the experts were right and it will be a catastrophe opening up at 80%. Well the media had a bit of a run with it in late August early Sept.

EXPERT REACTION: Modelling predicts 80 per cent adult COVID-19 vaccination won't be enough

EXPERT REACTION: Modelling predicts 80 per cent adult COVID-19 vaccination won't be enough A team modelling the outcome of reducing COVID-19 restrictions in Australia after 80 per cent of the adult population is vaccinated is warning that threshold is not high enough, publishing their resul
www.scimex.org

Now we have a run with the new info.

Elective surgery ‘likely’ to resume next week, says Health Minister

Postponed elective surgery procedures are set to return as early as next week as COVID-19 hospitalisations in NSW continue to decline.
www.smh.com.au

Guess we just have to roll with it, and keep reading to find out what the future holds.
 
Still a lot of hesitancy in W.A.

WA vaccine boss in strong plea to hesitant

Western Australia's COVID-19 vaccine commander is pleading for the state's vaccine-hesitant residents to get themselves protected before the virus reaches the local community.Chris Dawson says he remains confident WA will reach the target of 80 per cent double vaccinated among the eligible...
au.news.yahoo.com
 
After all the condemnation of the protesters in a number of states, I am yet to hear the MSM calling out the antifa protests.


I guess you can only catch covid from protesters who disagree with your views.

Mick
 
mullokintyre said:
After all the condemnation of the protesters in a number of states, I am yet to hear the MSM calling out the antifa protests.


I guess you can only catch covid from protesters who disagree with your views.

Mick
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Not many members. Are they yelling at a pro fascist rally or to the air?

I looked it up. No limit to outdoor gathering in QLD. So as there are less than 20 the police can't act.
 
mullokintyre said:
Still can't scratch your Ar$e here in Victoria without the permission of the stasi.
Almost enuff to make you want to shift to Queensland.
Mick
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Life is completely normal here in WA... apart from the stupid QR codes all over the damn place which everybody ignores.

But... We all feel that McClown is itching to pull the trigger and do a Mao Tse Dan, given the opportunity.
 
Its a clever tactic.

We will be able to spot the unvaccinated from a distance due to their long hair (no haircuts), their old clothing ( no shopping) and wild eyes (on the way to madness).
 
SirRumpole said:
If they let you in.
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Knobby22 said:
Its a clever tactic.

We will be able to spot the unvaccinated from a distance due to their long hair (no haircuts), their old clothing ( no shopping) and wild eyes (on the way to madness).
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What worries me is that the likes of you (the unthinking complicit) say that with a certain amount of glee. (No respect for others decisions)
 
wayneL said:
What worries me is that the likes of you (the unthinking complicit) say that with a certain amount of glee. (No respect for others decisions)
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No glee on my part. Its a public health issue afaic, not an ideological $hit fight.
 
SirRumpole said:
No glee on my part. Its a public health issue afaic, not an ideological $hit fight.
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A gold star for you... Or is it a gold star for me?? Hmmm.

Why not peruse the data? If you do, you might see it is ideological.
 
Its my black humour.
Won't happen. Vaccine passports will be history shortly after Christmas (except for air travel and cruise ships.)
 
Knobby22 said:
Its my black humour.
Won't happen. Vaccine passports will be history shortly after Christmas (except for air travel and cruise ships.)
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I wish I shared your optimism.

20th century history gives me cause for pessimism... At least until everyone wakes the **** up.
 
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