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Here we go again, I wasnt suggesting it would take a couple of years to build, only it will take a couple of years to expose the motivation.
Here we go again, I wasnt suggesting it would take a couple of years to build, only it will take a couple of years to expose the motivation.The feds have not done anything to progress the Pinkenba project, which remains on the table.
In the absence of action from the feds QLD's Premier gave Toowoomba's Wellcamp facility the go ahead as it expects to open in stages from end-2021 - not a couple years as you suggest.
The benefit is less than 4 months away.Here we go again, I wasnt suggesting it would take a couple of years to build, only it will take a couple of years to expose the motivation.
The link you made to Pinkemba contains nothing about Pinkemba at all. It is the statement about building Wellcamp.The feds have not done anything to progress the Pinkenba project, which remains on the table.
In the absence of action from the feds QLD's Premier gave Toowoomba's Wellcamp facility the go ahead as it expects to open in stages from end-2021 - not a couple years as you suggest.
Are you suggesting that they should have done something in the ensuing 12 days?“That means the Australian Government can get started building it, and once constructed, the Queensland Government will provide services to the facility.
Please read the relevant part of my link which confirmed the point made.The link you made to Pinkemba contains nothing about Pinkemba at all.
What was your point? And what is relevant?Please read the relevant part of my link which confirmed the point made.
Wellcamp is an international standard airport and Toowoomba is a decent size city with twice the population of Bunbury. It's about as close to Brisbane as both Sunshine and Gold Coast quarantine hotels, except once built transfers will take minutes rather than hours.Why would you build a quarantine facility in the middle of nowhere, with no acute care facilities and no airport with the ability to accept international flights?
Yes, you are completely wrong as these facilities could have been in place right now had the feds had a clue about quarantine arrangements and stopped playing a blame game.So I dont have any skin in the game, but it does smell from afar and I may be completely wrong.
You just don't get it - the feds should have done this in 2020 rather than fight with States, so time ran out ages ago.Time will tell, as it always does.
Prove the feds are actively pursuing this strategy as I have not seen any plans.The feds want the quarantine facilies built near hospital facilities that can cope and close to airports that can accept international arrivals and preferably on federal land which they already own as they are paying for it ( well the taxpayer is).
You should learn what facilities are available at Toowoomba before making silly comparisons.What Queensland is doing, is like W.A building a facility in Kalgoorlie.
What Scomo does speaks for itself - too little too late. He's a policy void with a record of incompetence that has lead to hundreds of deaths in aged care, and avoidable lockdowns had he accepted responsibility for international quarantine arrangements from the outset.but hey your hate for Scomo, yet again overides your common sense.
From the link:What was your point? And what is relevant?
You said that the feds had done nothing about Pinkemba, and put in a link that had nothing to do with Pinkemba.
End of story
Mick
But those who need acute care would have to be transferred, it doesn't make sense having it remote from the acute careWellcamp is an international standard airport and Toowoomba is a decent size city with twice the population of Bunbury. It's about as close to Brisbane as both Sunshine and Gold Coast quarantine hotels, except once built transfers will take minutes rather than hours.
These facilities haven't been required, as we haven't had the issue, the Feds and the States have been playing Games, in W.A the State Government wanted the facility built in Busselton, it is now going to be built at Pearce air base, makes much more sense.Yes, you are completely wrong as these facilities could have been in place right now had the feds had a clue about quarantine arrangements and stopped playing a blame game.
I think the Feds had enough on their plate in 2020, funding a bottomless pit of State government shutdowns, guess it depends on how you look at it.You just don't get it - the feds should have done this in 2020 rather than fight with States, so time ran out ages ago.
Obviously the State plans are that far advanced, they can't pull out, yet wanted the Feds to pay for it. Like I said it will be interesting when the real winners come out in a couple of years IMO.Prove the feds are actively pursuing this strategy as I have not seen any plans.
You should learn that you can't ask for the Australian public taxpayer, to pay for a State brain fart, that they want the Feds, which is us taxpayers, to pay for.You should learn what facilities are available at Toowoomba before making silly comparisons.
First, every positive international arrival in Qld is already taken to a hospital facility regardless of being symptomatic.
Second, Toowoomba's hospital - which already has acute care capability - is being upgraded as part of the State's recently announced $1.1 billion commitment to the Darling Downs and South West Hospital and Health Services.
What W.A and Queensland are doing, is kill the pig with royalties by keeping mining open and keeping all the spending inside the State, which is a great play, but blaming the Feds for piss poor decisions like the Toowoomba one will backfire because it smells of shonky deals IMO.What Scomo does speaks for itself - too little too late. He's a policy void with a record of incompetence that has lead to hundreds of deaths in aged care, and avoidable lockdowns had he accepted responsibility for international quarantine arrangements from the outset.
Again, it smells like someone, is buying something from someone.From the link:
“The Queensland Government will continue to work collaboratively to progress the Commonwealth’s Pinkenba facility, but we need more options to get returning Australians home safer.”Would you like me to explain the point as well?
It already exists in Toowoomba. You don't jump off a plane and need acute care anyway: everyone arriving had to show a negative result prior to boarding, so anyone infected would always be picked up in very early stages and, as I said, may be asymptomatic.But those who need acute care would have to be transferred, it doesn't make sense having it remote from the acute care
This is 2021 - their performance has been equally inept.I think the Feds had enough on their plate in 2020, funding a bottomless pit of State government shutdowns, guess it depends on how you look at it.
The cost has been a result of federal ineptitude and avoidance of their Constitutional responsibility.You should learn that you can't ask for the Australian public taxpayer, to pay for a State brain fart, that they want the Feds, which is us taxpayers, to pay for.
What part about the feds still not having done anything in any State to date don't you understand?but blaming the Feds for piss poor decisions like the Toowoomba one will backfire because it smells of shonky deals IMO.
The State Government wanted the Feds to fund it, with taxpayers money, not State money, the Feds said we will but we will put it on Federal Government land close to Brisbane, which you say is still proceeding.It already exists in Toowoomba. You don't jump off a plane and need acute care anyway: everyone arriving had to show a negative result prior to boarding, so anyone infected would always be picked up in very early stages and, as I said, may be asymptomatic.
Well it would be completely out of character, for you not to criticise the Feds, so that is becoming white noise.This is 2021 - their performance has been equally inept.
The cost has been a result of federal ineptitude and avoidance of their Constitutional responsibility.
What part about the feds still not having done anything in any State to date don't you understand?
Queensland has reduced its intake of arrivals as it has reduced local hotel quarantine capacity. Wellcamp will get more Australians back home sooner and integrated more safely.
In your haste to blame the feds for everything you seem to have overlooked the fact that the States demanded that each state be responsible for Quarantine from the beginning. The feds should never had agreed to it, but they did. Just look at the complete screw up that Victoria did in its Quarantine.It already exists in Toowoomba. You don't jump off a plane and need acute care anyway: everyone arriving had to show a negative result prior to boarding, so anyone infected would always be picked up in very early stages and, as I said, may be asymptomatic.
This is 2021 - their performance has been equally inept.
The cost has been a result of federal ineptitude and avoidance of their Constitutional responsibility.
What part about the feds still not having done anything in any State to date don't you understand?
Queensland has reduced its intake of arrivals as it has reduced local hotel quarantine capacity. Wellcamp will get more Australians back home sooner and integrated more safely.
OMG don't bust Sir Humphries bubble, he is likely to have a seizure, everything bad that is happening in the World is Scomo's fault, damn Scomo. Bushfires, global warming, vaccine hesitancy, calling for people to have AZ if it's available( oh that's ok now) it goes on and on, the white noise is deafening. ? ? ?To
In your haste to blame the feds for everything you seem to have overlooked the fact that the States demanded that each state be responsible for Quarantine from the beginning. The feds should never had agreed to it, but they did. Just look at the complete screw up that Victoria did in its Quarantine.
The ueensland state government only signed the NOU for Pinkemba 12 days ago.
Whose dragging their feet now?
The Feds were stupid to think that the states would do the cooperative thing and try to work with each other to get the best outcomesnduring this pandemic.
The biggest lie has been the bull**** statement "we are all in this together".
No chance, the states sniping at each other, sniping at the feds, the feds sniping at the states.
Everything about Phis Queensland foray into Wellcamp reeks of Politics.
All parties are to blame, the Feds, the States, the health bureacrats and the media that have feasted off the whole mess.
Blame game.
Just what we need.
And its reflected right here in this forum.
Mick
You won't accept that international quarantine arrangements have always been a federal responsibility. Morrison is the only PM to shirk this role and cost hundreds of lives as a result.The State Government wanted the Feds to fund it, with taxpayers money, not State money, the Feds said we will but we will put it on Federal Government land close to Brisbane, which you say is still proceeding.
You wont accept it, you're the one who is saying that the Queensland Government was building the wellcamp facility, because the Feds weren't building one, then in the next post you said Pinkenba was actually proceeding.You won't accept that international quarantine arrangements have always been a federal responsibility. Morrison is the only PM to shirk this role and cost hundreds of lives as a result.
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In your haste to blame the feds for everything you seem to have overlooked the fact that the States demanded that each state be responsible for Quarantine from the beginning.
That's o.k, I'm having fun. By the way thanks for jumping in to save his ar$e, good to see his fan club, punching above its weight. ?Nope Morrison dumped it on the states McGowan wanted nothing to do with it and repeated that numerus times.
Robs right SP not so much... sorry SP
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