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Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2) outbreak discussion

Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 49.3%

  • No

    Votes: 9 12.0%

  • Bigger than SARS, but not worldwide epidemic (Black Death/bubonic plague)

    Votes: 25 33.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Total voters
    75
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sptrawler said:
If it gets into Africa, there could be problems, HIV is still pretty rampant there from what I've read.
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That post was a year ago.
Well we are yet to see a HIV issue with the virus, but the new highly contagious strain has come out of Africa, so as we posed then the virus mutating in Africa was and is a real issue.
It really would be nice to now the whole truth with this virus IMO.
 
Aberfan survivor Bernard Thomas dies from coronavirus (msn.com)

Aberfan disaster - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org


The white arches in Bryntaf Cemetery, Aberfan, which mark the graves of children killed in the disaster.

How the people of Aberfan were repeatedly betrayed after the disaster

The disaster fund was plundered, the political response was inadequate and the inquest's verdict was accidental death
www.walesonline.co.uk

Fifty years on, the Aberfan disaster told by the people who were there

Many are telling their stories publicly for the first time.
aberfan.walesonline.co.uk
 
A number of ASF posters have been highlighting the value of Vitamin D supplements to improve the chances of people surviving/not getting COVID.

There's an excellent story in The Guardian which explores the outcomes around Vitamin D supplements. One fascinating point that came out in the story was that from 1940 to 2013 margarine had been fortified with Vitamin D to improve peoples health.

Does vitamin D combat Covid?

It’s cheap, widely available and might help us fend off the virus. So should we all be dosing up on the sunshine nutrient?
www.theguardian.com
 

Rather sad that it has to come from agitation by lay people rather than our so called "medical leaders"

I know it is hard to admit you are wrong but people are dying here, Doctor !
 
macca said:
Rather sad that it has to come from agitation by lay people rather than our so called "medical leaders"

I know it is hard to admit you are wrong but people are dying here, Doctor !
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Not quite so Macca. If you read the story it was clear that it was doctors and such who were trialing and experimenting with Vitamin D and pushing the case for widespread use as a "no regrets" option.
 
I agree that the small number of Docs mentioned in the article are OK but my main complaint is the blind arrogance of the medical leaders in most countries

If our illustrious medical leaders simply told everyone to ensure they get 30 minutes of sunshine each day our Vitamin D reserves would soar.

As it is, I have no doubt that our great run against Covid is because so many of us already have reasonable Vit D levels from our normal activities and the fact it is Summer.

All those poor old people in Melbourne, Victorian winter and a sedentary indoor lifestyle, a 1000iu Vit D pill each day may well have saved many of them.

We will never know but the Indonesian study suggests that we could have saved most of them if their Vit D levels were 50+

Hopefully someone will give greater publicity to the details in that article, ASF gets quite a few people but it needs to go to mainstream media for it be of greater value
 
Another article on the vitamin D issue, I'm not following the thread so no bias, but apparently this is one of the largest studies carried out.

Vitamin D supplements don't help ward off colds and flus, new research finds

How much vitamin D should a person take? The answer has long been a point of contention in the medical industry. Now a five-year research trial finds vitamin D supplements do not protect Australians from catching colds and flus.
www.abc.net.au
From the article:

Lead researcher, Professor Rachel Neale said while the findings showed taking vitamin D did not stop people from getting respiratory tract infections, there was some evidence that it reduced the length and severity of infection.

"The key message is that if you are not vitamin D deficient, taking vitamin D is unlikely to stop you from getting a head cold or the flu," Professor Neale said.

"It may reduce the length of it a little bit, but not enough to really warrant taking vitamin D if you're not already vitamin D deficient."
 

I can only assume there is a typo in there, taking one pill a month could not possibly be right, if it is then what a waste of time.

I have been to the publishers website but cannot get access to the report, but the summary does not say whether the participants Vit D level was assessed at any time during the study.

Obviously, that is crucial to the outcome, if someone already has a Vit D level of 75nmol then a pill a Day is not going to make much difference, let alone a pill a month.

It does not say what size pill was taken but if a person had 30 nmol then they are probably the ones that had a better result.

The whole principal with any supplement or vitamin is that they are of most benefit when there is a deficiency in the body. All good natural remedy people advocate that we get our requirements from food or in this case, from sunshine.

The study was done in Queensland, I would suggest that of all the places in the world that should have good Vit D levels then Qld could be the place with the highest average Vit D levels in the community.

A high percentage of people with pale skin living in a sunny location is a no brainer for high Vit D levels

As it has been written up by the ABC, to me the study was set up to fail, they must have been very disappointed that even though they set out to disprove Vit D effectiveness it still gave some improvement.
 
Who is the f&kwit who allowed overseas tennis players & entourage to land in Australia (two with Covid).
Australia is the dumb country. Obviously have not learnt from the Cruise liner fiasco in Sydney and that all new infections come from overseas visitors.
Heads should roll for this stupidity.
 
Follow the science, not the politics.

Good thread here:

 
@wayneL suggests above that we follow the science.
The linked tweet states:
"The evidence based science shows that medical face masks for the healthy do not alter rates of community transmission of SARSCoV2 while they contribute to the plastic pollution of planet. Cloth & masks of other materials increase rates of infection through nebulization spread." ​
First, the initial claim cannot be replicated scientifically as it is both unethical and physically impossible to establish the necessary parameters to research community transmission.
More importantly, all authorities advocate the wearing of masks for reasons proven in the linked tweet's science paper, showing only bandanas and gaiters to be as dangerous as not wearing a mask at all:



This statement from the linked science paper is a fair summary of its findings:
"In effect, the mask acts as a temporal low-pass filter, smoothens the droplet rate over time, and reduces the overall transmission."​

So when we follow the science it is easy to see why politicians who have also followed it are unanimous in mask advocacy.
 
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IFocus said:
Wasted my time reading his Twitter the man is a troll spouting rubbish making endless BS claims, seriously.
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Always interested in evidence and half the reason why I post a lot of these links

If you could explain which of these claims are BS, it would be greatly appreciated.
 
wayneL said:
Always interested in evidence and half the reason why I post a lot of these links

If you could explain which of these claims are BS, it would be greatly appreciated.
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There is endless misinformation regarding COVID you could start with lock downs don't work.
 
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