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Yes, Fox News is excellent.At least you can be relatively confident, that the information coming out of those Countries, has some basis in fact.
I think you are a bit of a 'voice in the wilderness Rob', I think most in Australia are fairly happy with their lot, those that aren't are free to go and live where they prefer.Yes, Fox News is excellent.
Or the New York Times.
Murdoch's empire is just the epitome of factual news!
How about our Epoch Times, quoted earlier by @pozindustrial?
Or whatever media you keep complaining about.
That's not really the point.I think you are a bit of a 'voice in the wilderness Rob', I think most in Australia are fairly happy with their lot, those that aren't are free to go and live where they prefer.
They also have a choice of media preferences, they have access to anything they wish to read.
Right, and none of their wars have had anything to do with maintaining supply of oil, “defending the free world” it’s funny that a lot of the people they are killing would also describe themselves as freedom fighters, the fact is no body ever thinks they are the bad guy.The USA has borne the brunt of the defence of the free world hence the large military spending.
If you want to be a subject of Russia or China, feel free to live there and see how you go.
Right, and none of their wars have had anything to do with maintaining supply of oil, “defending the free world” it’s funny that a lot of the people they are killing would also describe themselves as freedom fighters, the fact is no body ever thinks they are the bad guy.
The USA also has possibly the highest rates of police shooting their own citizens, and the highest rates of imprisonment too, how is it that the leader of the free world has more of its citizens jailed than any other nation, and its citizens are terrified of the police.
Explain what I wrote in this thread, that is wrong.That's not really the point.
You and others are posting stuff that is plain wrong!
If you are going to comment here, at least try to be informed, or make sense.
When I am in China I use what other Chinese use to access the world media - a proxy server!
You cannot go and live wherever you like! I could not even go to to live in America!Explain what I wrote in this thread, that is wrong.
I said people have choice of media here, whereas in China they don't, as you confirmed by stating you use a proxy server.
Also I'm very sure if you wrote the disparaging comments in China about their leader, that you do about Australia's leader, you would probably be locked up.
Maybe if China is so wonderful and great, you should relocate and enjoy the open rewarding lifestyle China can provide you. I assume as you worked as a policy writer for the Labor party in Canberra, you will be on a Commonwealth pension scheme, which would give you a terrific standard of living in the 'chosen' land. ?
No doubt there are renegades in the US police force, the country has a lot of problems to be sure. Are you actually promoting it should be a totalitarian state like China ?
Before you make assumptions about George Floyd watch this full video of his death, It’s easy to make up excuses for the cops until you watch this video.USA is full of guns in the hands of crims, a nightmare for law enforcement. I have seen on youtube a LEO delay shooting a defiant black guy in a car who seized a gun and took off running. He turned and shot the officer who had ample opportunity to fire the first shot. A lot of officers get killed or maimed but aren't national news stories. The llberal citizens who rely on them for their safe lives mourn the deaths of life long criminals like that icon of police savagery towards oppressed blacks, George Floyd, who almost certainly died of a lethal cocktail of fentanyl and meth, 75% blocked vital arteries and the stress of being arrested. Poor slightly built cop who's job was to subdue and detain a powerfully built agitated drug addict crim was thrown under the bus.
I think it’s a lot more than just a few renegades, I think they have institutional problems built in.
I am not saying America should be more like China, or vice versa, both have major issues, I see positives and negatives in both.
I just think it’s unhealthy to demonise one and hold the other up like an angel, especially when we have Buckley’s chance of changing either of them, but we can profit mightily by being every ones friend.
it’s a bit like you will never get your fat friend to be healthy by shaming them, it’s better to lead by example and hope change comes from within, which in both cases of the USA and China I think over time both will continue heading in the right direction.
I just think it’s unhealthy to demonise one and hold the other up like an angel, especially when we have Buckley’s chance of changing either of them, but we can profit mightily by being every ones friend.
I don’t think we have to take sides, we don’t have to do anything, look at Switzerland, it’s an extreme example, but it has just stuck to its knitting, and I don’t think either China or America have any harsh feeling towards it.That's a Utopian position and impossible with two gorillas arguing about ideology.
We eventually will have to take one side or the other.
Did you watch the video?How do you know "it wasn't the drugs" (or the 75% blocked coronary arteries, or the stress of being detained for yet another breaking of the law by St George)? The 'experts' apparently divide just like the whole disintegrated USA but one 'expert' examiner said the autopsy results of GF read without extraneous facts would have concluded that he died of a drug overdose complicated by coronary artery disease.
It is even contested that the knee was on the neck, but possibly on the upper shoulder - from both a different phone video view and from the autopsy fact that there was no damage or dislocation of the hyoid bone nor any rupture of capillaries - no sign at all of neck trauma.
Why was he convicted of murder not at 'best' for the prosecution's case of negligent manslaughter? Would any white cop intentionally kill a black in the race obsessed U.S in full view of a hostile crowd filming him? How can you murder with no intent to kill?
I might try to watch the video sometime but most of the coverage just makes me angry and I try and I avoid it.
Yes I read your post.Did you read my rebuttal? Nope, too quick.
As said, I might watch it but can almost guarantee i could find a vid agaist your vid, so what point?
You make a big deal of no attempt to revive but an ambulance officer arrived and did. How does a cop render aid when he has his knee on a perp restraining him. I assert he didn't know Floyd was unconscious let alone dead. A most damaging witness against Chauvin who took your tack was his own commanding officer who is the first black in his position and would have been demonised himself if he didn't rat out Chauvin.
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