Do you have a problem with Tasmanian fish farms that sell “Atlantic Salmon” ? The species is called Atlantic Salmon, but obviously they are growing it in Australia not the Atlantic.To me six of one and half a dozen of the other. i do have a thing about using the name Australian as I would assume that means the product has been sourced from here via import.
@finicky I have no personal angst against you and I am in no way a CCP supporter or denier, go to the left for that. But travel to a main Chinese metropolis: Shanghai Shenzen or even Beijing , then cross the pacif and visit NY or similar, this might change your mind.Relax .. they're a paper tiger. They're disintegrating.
Relax .. they're a paper tiger. They're disintegrating.
@qldfrog I have no need to travel to those benighted lands. I form my insightful opinions from the vantage of my mattress in my wi-fied bedroom.
Tsk tsk, so wrong. The correct narrative is they're filled with water for ballast because the crims have stolen the fuel! I remind you that this thread is reserved for anti CCP China bigots.purposely filling rockets with water
This argument imho is valid as long as you subscribe to the current scenario of what is strength: aircraft carriers to support OS expeditions and secure shipping lanes etc..the past US model but in my view this century will see emergence of a new type of strength, power thru economic, hacking, Satellites and deals.China is limited by geography and isn't going anywhere unless they take over some countries outside of East Asia. The only expansion prospects are Taiwan and the SCS, which they might get if they work it well while the US is occupied elsewhere. But, SE Asia might not even allow it. Who is next?
It's going to be very very interesting how they respond to the Taiwan election. The ambassador saying we were going over the edge of an abyss, or something, if we supported democracy is quite concerning.
am not so sure about 'empire ' , but a fair chance of a solid alliance ( as trading partners )This argument imho is valid as long as you subscribe to the current scenario of what is strength: aircraft carriers to support OS expeditions and secure shipping lanes etc..the past US model but in my view this century will see emergence of a new type of strength, power thru economic, hacking, Satellites and deals.
With Ukraine conflict, we gift China empire new borders from Sebastopol to Vladivostok,South China sea.
Direct land access to 2/3 if not 4/5th of the world population and all resources you can dream of.
The EU and US are self collapsing from within...
China will not replace the US, it will be part of a loose coalition doing that job..turkey Iran Russia India and later on Mexico once US empires cracks.
Alliances will shift and it will be more dangerous world.
We, in Australia, will hopefully play no role and be like Brazil/Argentina of the 20yh century.
The alternative is we side with he loser and go with a bang ..in the capital cities and a protectorate from Indonesia in the northern half voted in by our genuine owners as in occupied PNG..
I hopefully will not be around to see that.
The imports of raw materials/energy from Russia and Mongolia into India and China last year has been over the moon.
Interesting geopolitics but better lived from afar...we are too near
Indeedam not so sure about 'empire ' , but a fair chance of a solid alliance ( as trading partners )
i note the Bangladesh is building better relations with India ( which i see as a good thing )
Mongols and Manchus .. they weren't a commie totalitarian state then ffs. It's an evil tofu dreg society unravelling. China "non confrontational" - who are you - Penny Wong?
the Mongols were probably communists ( note the small 'c' ) as they lived is smallish communes most of the time ( that is very different to a Communist Government )
( i see small autonomous communes as an option which has merits )
why would China invade , when they can buy key assets/infrastructure ( like the universities ) and infiltrate/indoctrinate the target nations ( several nations are already enslaved to the love of money/debt )
all China needs to do is become the manufacturing/processing hub of the world , the rest flows like profits into a bank account
far from ridiculous , just highlighting how far the English language has been secularized and butcheredStop being ridiculous. Communism is a political ideology that didn't exist until Marx. If it existed during the times of the Mongols, the C(c)ommunist ideology wouldn't be attributed to Marx.
They have no religion/strong belief to indoctrinate other societies with. Since Mao died, China hasn't even tried to indoctrinate other countries on communism. And I suspect they never really wanted to.
Yeah they "target" countries for financial gain, mostly through trade. Definitely not militarily or doing something like enslaving a population that would have militaristic repercussions. They are so apathetic to external affairs it resulted in 100 years of stagnation in the 19th century. When the Indonesians and Cambodians were ethnic cleansing all of their Chinese population in the 1960s/1970s, China did literally nothing lol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_genocide -. "The government of the People's Republic of China did not protest against the killings of ethnic Chinese in Cambodia"
I can understand why a country like India would be spiteful because they want to replace China as the world's factory. I would argue if that were to happen the world would be a worse place - just look at happened when Indians/South Asians replaced all the taxi drivers, customer service, CEOs, prime ministers etc. And the US because they want to maintain their position in the world. However for a country like Australia there is nothing to gain by being a "crusader against China". We lose out on trade and gain nothing other than a kudos from America. It's pointless.
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