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glad to see @finicky took a read, liked., Jeremy Grantham writes well, & from experience. Of course there is a huge difference in approach running billions compared to decisions on the individual level. It's all about preservation of capital whether it's a mill or two, or just starting out with a small kitty.Executive Summary
The long, long bull market since 2009 has finally matured into a fully-fledged epic bubble. Featuring extreme overvaluation, explosive price increases, frenzied issuance, and hysterically speculative investor behavior, I believe this event will be recorded as one of the great bubbles of financial history, right along with the South Sea bubble, 1929, and 2000.
These great bubbles are where fortunes are made and lost – and where investors truly prove their mettle. For positioning a portfolio to avoid the worst pain of a major bubble breaking is likely the most difficult part. Every career incentive in the industry and every fault of individual human psychology will work toward sucking investors in.
But this bubble will burst in due time, no matter how hard the Fed tries to support it, with consequent damaging effects on the economy and on portfolios. Make no mistake – for the majority of investors today, this could very well be the most important event of your investing lives. Speaking as an old student and historian of markets, it is intellectually exciting and terrifying at the same time. It is a privilege to ride through a market like this one more time.
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All bubbles end with near universal acceptance that the current one will not end yet…because. Because in 1929 the economy had clicked into “a permanently high plateau”; because Greenspan’s Fed in 2000 was predicting an enduring improvement in productivity and was pledging its loyalty (or moral hazard) to the stock market; because Bernanke believed in 2006 that “U.S. house prices merely reflect a strong U.S. economy” as he perpetuated the moral hazard: if you win you’re on your own, but if you lose you can count on our support. Yellen, and now Powell, maintained this approach. All three of Powell’s predecessors claimed that the asset prices they helped inflate in turn aided the economy through the wealth effect. Which effect we all admit is real. But all three avoided claiming credit for the ensuing market breaks that inevitably followed: the equity bust of 2000 and the housing bust of 2008, each replete with the accompanying anti-wealth effect that came when we least needed it, exaggerating the already guaranteed weakness in the economy. This game surely is the ultimate deal with the devil.
Now once again the high prices this time will hold because…interest rates will be kept around nil forever, in the ultimate statement of moral hazard – the asymmetrical market risk we have come to know and depend on. The mantra of late 2020 was that engineered low rates can prevent a decline in asset prices. Forever! But of course, it was a fallacy in 2000 and it is a fallacy now. In the end, moral hazard did not stop the Tech bubble decline, with the NASDAQ falling 82%. Yes, 82%! Nor, in 2008, did it stop U.S. housing prices declining all the way back to trend and below – which in turn guaranteed first, a shocking loss of over eight trillion dollars of perceived value in housing; second, an ensuing weakness in the economy; and third, a broad rise in risk premia and a broad decline in global asset prices (see Exhibit 1). All the promises were in the end worth nothing, except for one; the Fed did what it could to pick up the pieces and help the markets get into stride for the next round of enhanced prices and ensuing decline. And here we are again, waiting for the last dance and, eventually, for the music to stop
Either way, the market is now checking off all the touchy-feely characteristics of a major bubble. The most impressive features are the intensity and enthusiasm of bulls, the breadth of coverage of stocks and the market, and, above all, the rising hostility toward bears. In 1929, to be a bear was to risk physical attack and guarantee character assassination. For us, 1999 was the only experience we have had of clients reacting as if we were deliberately and maliciously depriving them of gains. In comparison, 2008 was nothing. But in the last few months the hostile tone has been rapidly ratcheting up. The irony for bears though is that it’s exactly what we want to hear. It’s a classic precursor of the ultimate break; together with stocks rising, not for their fundamentals, but simply because they are rising.
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What to Do?
As often happens at bubbly peaks like 1929, 2000, and the Nifty Fifty of 1972 (a second-tier bubble in the company of champions), today’s market features extreme disparities in value by asset class, sector, and company. Those at the very cheap end include traditional value stocks all over the world, relative to growth stocks. Value stocks have had their worst-ever relative decade ending December 2019, followed by the worst-ever year in 2020, with spreads between Growth and Value performance averaging between 20 and 30 percentage points for the single year! Similarly, Emerging Market equities are at 1 of their 3, more or less co-equal, relative lows against the U.S. of the last 50 years. Not surprisingly, we believe it is in the overlap of these two ideas, Value and Emerging, that your relative bets should go, along with the greatest avoidance of U.S. Growth stocks that your career and business risk will allow. Good luck!
So, if he is normally 2yrs too early, where exactly do we sit, best guess/estii?
glad to see @finicky took a read, liked., Jeremy Grantham writes well, & from experience. Of course there is a huge difference in approach running billions compared to decisions on the individual level. It's all about preservation of capital whether it's a mill or two, or just starting out with a small kitty.
Waiting for the Last Dance
The long bull market since 2009 has matured into an epic bubble, featuring extreme overvaluation, explosive price increases, frenzied issuance, and hysterically speculative investor behavior.www.gmo.com
Where do we sit? Better to be six months early than six minutes late?? It is a bubble.
I won't derail the thread by commenting on the details but I can't help but notice that the overwhelmingly dominant theme there is energy both renewable and non-renewable.More news
Sorry for absence of chart.can not do right on the phone..Mr Duc,
I would like to bring the US dollar index dxy to your attention, especially the long term chart: 10y+
You will quickly notice that it has just reached the bottom of its range and has started its up move.this could be of importance for us, as foreigners, and as an extra cause of inflation
Mr Duc,
I would like to bring the US dollar index dxy to your attention, especially the long term chart: 10y+
You will quickly notice that it has just reached the bottom of its range and has started its up move.this could be of importance for us, as foreigners, and as an extra cause of inflation
@gartley i am a believer in cycles too,but we have to always use caution.When I first started to look at Elliott Waves and the Fibonacci sequence more than 25 years ago I noticed a very important time based fibonacci relationship. This has been such a good long term guide it amazes me to this day. Basically counting the number of Fibonacci/Lucas sequence years between past historic tops or bottoms:
1932 low to 1966 high: 34 Years (Fib No)
1932 low to 1987 high: 55 years (Fib No)
1932 low to 2000 high: 76 years (Lucas no)
1987 high to 2008 high: 21 Years (Fib No)
These are just some examples and there are more.
There is also a very important Fibonacci countdown in progress which ends in the year 2021 as follows:
1932 low to 2021: 89 Years
1966 high to 2021: 55 years
1987 low to 2021: 34 years
2000 high to 2021: 21 Years
2008 high to 2021: 13 years
Jan 2013 low to 2021: 8 years ( this low was when QE expanded)
2016 low 2021: 5 years
2018 low to 2021: 3 years
2020 low to 2021: 1year
This suggests 2021 to be a very volatile year and the Covid crash was probably just the warm up of what is about to start.
Looking at the long term Delta timing chart this suggests a peak sometime in the next 2 months plus or minus and the cycle projection for the SPX of around 4150 still has not been met.....
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