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Hope it all works out for you we miss your wit and repartee
Bicycle Helmets Kill
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Garpal Gumnut
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Thanks mate, ASF and Australia in general have become victims of mousey thin soup mf poncey over regulation and lack of humour and joie de vive.
Once I'm out of Corrections I may very well move to Argentina or New Zealand where folk enjoy life and can cycle without those bloody bicycle helmets, which are shaped like sperm heads to fit the dickheads who wear em.
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GG,
I put the word out with some of my photog mates to see if they could track your whereabouts.
Got this unverified pic, apparently it's possibly you in transit, sans Arnage.
I can't be sure, my photog mate Lennie's not too reliable, rambles a bit, he's still living out of his Lada Niva since the bust up and still claims Jack Daniels is a brand of aftershave.
Hope it all works out mate.
I put the word out with some of my photog mates to see if they could track your whereabouts.
Got this unverified pic, apparently it's possibly you in transit, sans Arnage.
I can't be sure, my photog mate Lennie's not too reliable, rambles a bit, he's still living out of his Lada Niva since the bust up and still claims Jack Daniels is a brand of aftershave.
Hope it all works out mate.
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gg, your infinite capacity to mock and have fun at the expense of the more credulous amongst us is a joy indeed.
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http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/wel...end-retailers-into-a-spin-20101118-17zeq.html
Apparently the existing helmets are dangerous.
So they make new ones, what a joke.
gg
Apparently the existing helmets are dangerous.
So they make new ones, what a joke.
gg
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http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/helmet-law-hurting-shared-bike-scheme-20101128-18cf2.html
Even the Pravda of the Southern Hemisphere is not afraid to admit that Melbourne and Brisbane lag the world in providing free bicycles for inner city loan, but insist on the borrowers wearing those ridiculous helmets.
When will Australia relinquish this Green-ALP-Left Liberal conspiracy to make people riding bicycles wear these ridiculous pancake/seagullturd head helmets which deter bicycle riding, do not prevent deaths and make the ordinary punter less fit than even I?
gg
Even the Pravda of the Southern Hemisphere is not afraid to admit that Melbourne and Brisbane lag the world in providing free bicycles for inner city loan, but insist on the borrowers wearing those ridiculous helmets.
When will Australia relinquish this Green-ALP-Left Liberal conspiracy to make people riding bicycles wear these ridiculous pancake/seagullturd head helmets which deter bicycle riding, do not prevent deaths and make the ordinary punter less fit than even I?
gg
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Garpal's visionary approach would save the lives of children. Far from simply revoking the mandate on wearing them, perhaps now the actual availability of helmets ought to be restricted.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/playing-in-helmets-is-dangerous-20110102-19d2h.html
Playing in helmets is dangerous Amy Corderoy HEALTH
January 3, 2011
BICYCLE helmets are potentially deadly if they are worn by children who are playing, not riding bikes, doctors have warned.
Three Australian children died after being strangled by their helmet between 2003 and 2009, a review of forensic records has found.
The deaths occurred while the children were doing things other than riding bikes or skateboards, four pathologists said.
Story continues below "Accidental hanging is still occurring among young children who wear bicycle helmets while engaging in activities other than bicycle riding," they write in The Medical Journal of Australia.
"Although such deaths are rare, it is important for parents and child carers to ensure that bicycle helmets are only worn by children for their intended purpose."
The first child, 2, died after being suspended by his helmet strap between a bunk bed and a wall. Another boy, 3, was caught in a similar manner as he tried to climb out of a window. The third child, who was five, was suspended from a clothes line while jumping on a trampoline.
Allan Cala, a co-author of the report and a forensic pathologist, said children were particularly at risk if the straps on their helmet were done up too loosely.
"No one could have foreseen problems with the straps like this but hopefully as a result of the article, parents, particularly of little kids, will recognise the dangers and check their children's helmets are on properly.
"You can never make anything zero risk but it is important to be aware of these types of hazards".
Young boys in particular tended to throw themselves into physical activities and could be oblivious to the dangers, he said.
In North America and Scandinavia, accidental deaths of children wearing helmets while on playground equipment had led to warnings being issued to parents.
Australian cases showed that such hangings could occur anywhere, and often by unusual mechanisms.
"Our aim is to draw attention to this rare but entirely preventable cause of childhood death," the authors wrote.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/playing-in-helmets-is-dangerous-20110102-19d2h.html
Playing in helmets is dangerous Amy Corderoy HEALTH
January 3, 2011
BICYCLE helmets are potentially deadly if they are worn by children who are playing, not riding bikes, doctors have warned.
Three Australian children died after being strangled by their helmet between 2003 and 2009, a review of forensic records has found.
The deaths occurred while the children were doing things other than riding bikes or skateboards, four pathologists said.
Story continues below "Accidental hanging is still occurring among young children who wear bicycle helmets while engaging in activities other than bicycle riding," they write in The Medical Journal of Australia.
"Although such deaths are rare, it is important for parents and child carers to ensure that bicycle helmets are only worn by children for their intended purpose."
The first child, 2, died after being suspended by his helmet strap between a bunk bed and a wall. Another boy, 3, was caught in a similar manner as he tried to climb out of a window. The third child, who was five, was suspended from a clothes line while jumping on a trampoline.
Allan Cala, a co-author of the report and a forensic pathologist, said children were particularly at risk if the straps on their helmet were done up too loosely.
"No one could have foreseen problems with the straps like this but hopefully as a result of the article, parents, particularly of little kids, will recognise the dangers and check their children's helmets are on properly.
"You can never make anything zero risk but it is important to be aware of these types of hazards".
Young boys in particular tended to throw themselves into physical activities and could be oblivious to the dangers, he said.
In North America and Scandinavia, accidental deaths of children wearing helmets while on playground equipment had led to warnings being issued to parents.
Australian cases showed that such hangings could occur anywhere, and often by unusual mechanisms.
"Our aim is to draw attention to this rare but entirely preventable cause of childhood death," the authors wrote.
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Great thread.
And yes helmets are very bad. Theyblock out the guardian angel, God and all the saints from protecting your child.
I am with GG
And yes helmets are very bad. Theyblock out the guardian angel, God and all the saints from protecting your child.
I am with GG
Interesting this thread has come up. I have been thinking about this issue lately (got fined $100 quite a while ago for no helmet), so I thought I would contribute 
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The idea that the government has the right to control what people can and cannot wear in certain circumstances under threat of force, is about as F~!Cked up as it gets, when one thinks about it, and please forgive me for the language. This is the sort of behavior one would attribute to officials in Saudi Arabia, not Australia.
No one has ever killed anyone else as a result of riding without a helmet. Hence, this is purely a victim-less crime. It is merely violating peoples freedoms so politicians can feel powerful. It is based on the moral position that government officials need to control peoples behavior in their own private lives, even to the draconian extend of what they wear, for their own good. And they think they have the right!
Now, I personally am pretty charged to get into politics (and have been for a while) because of this sort of stuff (and a few other things).
I refuse to yell into the internet any longer about this stuff (although it has been good practice). I am going to join the fight.
.The idea that the government has the right to control what people can and cannot wear in certain circumstances under threat of force, is about as F~!Cked up as it gets, when one thinks about it, and please forgive me for the language. This is the sort of behavior one would attribute to officials in Saudi Arabia, not Australia.
No one has ever killed anyone else as a result of riding without a helmet. Hence, this is purely a victim-less crime. It is merely violating peoples freedoms so politicians can feel powerful. It is based on the moral position that government officials need to control peoples behavior in their own private lives, even to the draconian extend of what they wear, for their own good. And they think they have the right!
Now, I personally am pretty charged to get into politics (and have been for a while) because of this sort of stuff (and a few other things).
I refuse to yell into the internet any longer about this stuff (although it has been good practice). I am going to join the fight.
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That's incorrect tothemax.
A rider who rides on the road and sustains severe head injuries costs the TAC (ie. drivers) literally millions of dollars just for the one person's rehab. It also costs the person and his family dearly, as you might be able to imagine.
This is why cyclists should stick to bike paths. No need for helmet there.
A rider who rides on the road and sustains severe head injuries costs the TAC (ie. drivers) literally millions of dollars just for the one person's rehab. It also costs the person and his family dearly, as you might be able to imagine.
This is why cyclists should stick to bike paths. No need for helmet there.
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Meant to say, in Denmark they do cycling in a civilized manner.
They ride on bike paths (instead of the road), the don't bother with helmets or lycra (are all Aussie cyclists training for Le Tour?), they are relaxed about cycling (as opposed to Melbournian cyclists who treat it oh-so-seriously), and they use normal bikes (instead of $10,000 bikes designed for professional cyclists).
As I say, civilized.
They ride on bike paths (instead of the road), the don't bother with helmets or lycra (are all Aussie cyclists training for Le Tour?), they are relaxed about cycling (as opposed to Melbournian cyclists who treat it oh-so-seriously), and they use normal bikes (instead of $10,000 bikes designed for professional cyclists).
As I say, civilized.
This is not true.
I was fined for riding my bike on the pavement without a helmet - at like walking pace. I never ride it on the road because I don't agree with doing that (few cyclists actually get anywhere near the speed limit, although some do, which makes them a danger on the road).
And any misappropriation of fault by the justice system is a vice of the justice system, not a mans freedom to wear what he wishes. The judiciary should recognize, that if men wish to use a bicycle on the road as their vehicle, but ride it dangerously slow, they should bear part responsibility for accidents caused.
And if we are going to go down the path of 'it would cost his family', then logically, he should have no freedom. Anything a man does can affect his family, you open the gates to bans on motorcycles, bans of risky sports, limits on alcohol purchases government control of all his actions - you create the nanny state. And he is better off dead than a slave.
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Excellent, tothemax6. May I ask where you plan to stand (what district), what party you wish to represent (or perhaps you prefer to be an independent?), the lower house or the Senate?
I'd be happy to vote for you.
Well I don't plan to run for office just yetExcellent, tothemax6. May I ask where you plan to stand (what district), what party you wish to represent (or perhaps you prefer to be an independent?), the lower house or the Senate?
I'd be happy to vote for you.
. Just getting involved is my current goal.
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I was today, on The Strand, in North Ward, Townsville, stopped by the Police and my details taken and expect a summons to appear soon in court , for not wearing a bicycle helmet.
She said that I might have my drivers license taken off me.
Can the courts do this?
Are there any precedents in Queensland for "caught in company of a bicycle without a helmet"?
By the time she stopped me I was on the grass, I'm planning to use that in my defence.
gg
She said that I might have my drivers license taken off me.
Can the courts do this?
Are there any precedents in Queensland for "caught in company of a bicycle without a helmet"?
By the time she stopped me I was on the grass, I'm planning to use that in my defence.
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That might incur additional charges.
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Totally agree
Leave your puffing habits out of the courtroom drama that may unfold.
just pay the helmet fine and be thankful they did not raid the Garpulpad while you were discussing the legalities of riding stoned.
Happy to help.
yours sincerely
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Re: " on the grass "
Doc and nun, such a helpful duo, thanks.
English is such a beautiful language, however North of the Tropic of Capricorn, "grass" is walked upon , and "Yarndi" is smoked.
My point was that I was not on a public path, track, road, highway, street etc. when collared by a beautiful young lady police officer who out of uniform would have elicited quite a different response from me.
No I was not stoned, intoxicated, drunk, pissed or otherwise impaired by any substance except fresh sea air.
gg
Doc and nun, such a helpful duo, thanks.
English is such a beautiful language, however North of the Tropic of Capricorn, "grass" is walked upon , and "Yarndi" is smoked.
My point was that I was not on a public path, track, road, highway, street etc. when collared by a beautiful young lady police officer who out of uniform would have elicited quite a different response from me.
No I was not stoned, intoxicated, drunk, pissed or otherwise impaired by any substance except fresh sea air.
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having both one of my closest friends helmet shatter after impact from those texting clowns in 4 wheel drives, and also my sons helmet shatter in a similar impact.. the love of being able to still talk walk and live on the same planet with both of these dear souls outdoes any other argument against the steel vs flesh on the bitumen..
i can see how any law enforcement officer whom has to endure the trauma the cars and trucks inflict on cyclists may want to change the odds once in a while
despite the impending certainty of a long and severe term on incarceration.. i am certain time to reflect and perhaps use the exercise bike in the yard may be the only place you can enjoy riding without a helmet.
with a family member with permanent disabilities including inability to speak and living a life in a condition that i know no one would want to live, all from severe head trauma from an unrelated incident.. i can suggest that despite the ridicule and apathy that i as a cyclist endure on my daily rides, i know what head trauma is, what it bespeaks
i am all for freedoms, including the choice to text while driving.. who would want that to end?? but the freedom to be as you would want to be, without head trauma, is elevated by the presence of said foam plastic on cranium..
C'est la vie
i can see how any law enforcement officer whom has to endure the trauma the cars and trucks inflict on cyclists may want to change the odds once in a while
despite the impending certainty of a long and severe term on incarceration.. i am certain time to reflect and perhaps use the exercise bike in the yard may be the only place you can enjoy riding without a helmet.
with a family member with permanent disabilities including inability to speak and living a life in a condition that i know no one would want to live, all from severe head trauma from an unrelated incident.. i can suggest that despite the ridicule and apathy that i as a cyclist endure on my daily rides, i know what head trauma is, what it bespeaks
i am all for freedoms, including the choice to text while driving.. who would want that to end?? but the freedom to be as you would want to be, without head trauma, is elevated by the presence of said foam plastic on cranium..
C'est la vie
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I dunno GG, the defence looks a bit wobbly.
Being stopped suggests that when you were collared, you were in motion.
English is indeed a beautiful language.