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I'm actually going to agree with GG.

I don't believe in laws such as the helmet law that take choices out of your hands that would ONLY affect yourself. It should be MY right as to whether or not I put a helmet on MY head before I ride.

Having said that, having seen first hand what happens to someone's skull when it hits the road hard (held the back of someone's brains into their skull (literally) waiting for the ambulance) I would never ride without a helmet in the first place.

Regardless, the government should not be allowed to take away certain freedoms that they deem is for our own good. It should be up to the individual to make the choice.
 
ice said:
Perhaps an optional IQ test would be the go.
If your IQ was found to be below say 80 you wouldn't be required to wear a helmet on the reasonable assumption that there wasn't a lot up there to damage.
Win-win solution.

ice
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Pure GOLD right here. Gonna get this one framed and hang in the den above the mantle. :freak3:

Is that a helmet and a shoe flying through the air? Yeppers ....... glad he was wearing a helmet.

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trainspotter said:
Pure GOLD right here. Gonna get this one framed and hang in the den above the mantle. :freak3:

Is that a helmet and a shoe flying through the air? Yeppers ....... glad he was wearing a helmet.

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I would never be in that situation.

Typical lycra luvvies, note how the bloody helmets come off in a proper prang, and all that skin showing.

I generally stick to bike paths, so don't need a helmet.

gg
 
subasurf said:
I'm actually going to agree with GG.

I don't believe in laws such as the helmet law that take choices out of your hands that would ONLY affect yourself. It should be MY right as to whether or not I put a helmet on MY head before I ride.

Having said that, having seen first hand what happens to someone's skull when it hits the road hard (held the back of someone's brains into their skull (literally) waiting for the ambulance) I would never ride without a helmet in the first place.

Regardless, the government should not be allowed to take away certain freedoms that they deem is for our own good. It should be up to the individual to make the choice.
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But Suba, an accident victim will need rehabilitation, community services, etc if (worst case scenario) they end up a vegetable. I'm pretty sure the cost of this is borne by the taxpayer as a whole.

Not to mention that these services could be provided to somebody else, say, someone who took all precautions necessary to avoid serious injury.

At the end of the day, the community pays for the results of accidents, and as a stakeholder, I think the government has a right to call for helmet laws.
 
starwars_guy456 said:
But Suba, an accident victim will need rehabilitation, community services, etc if (worst case scenario) they end up a vegetable. I'm pretty sure the cost of this is borne by the taxpayer as a whole.

Not to mention that these services could be provided to somebody else, say, someone who took all precautions necessary to avoid serious injury.

At the end of the day, the community pays for the results of accidents, and as a stakeholder, I think the government has a right to call for helmet laws.
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Sw_g, you need to take a shower, and consider.
How many people's health is compromised because they do not cycle because of these odious helmets?
What is the breakdown on serious injuries between Lycra lilliputianos and ordinary bike riding drinkers at the Ross Island Hotel?

The small matter of civil liberties you Nahhh voir you.

A quote from Whiskers on the Fluoride thread.

If you are so concerned about fluorosis then why don't you also turn your crusade against the companies that make fluoride toothpastes and fluoride tablets - history shows that these are the big contributors to fluorosis.
Well... only yesterday you might recall I said;
Stopped using it as a conscientious objection to their corrupt participation in the disposal of toxic fluoride contamination in the mid 1900's and continued sponsership of biased research and much unpublished data that they and their sponsered organisations don't want us to know... such as the Significant Caries index (SiC) data from ARCPOH.

The other significant distinguishing factor that you and medicowallet have no regard for is the civil rights of individuals. If individuals choose to use fluoride toothpaste, tablets, mouthwash etc, that's their individual choice and responsibility.

Whereas compulsary fluoridation goes against the notion of individual rights and responsibilities, especially for people who do not need mass medication forced on them.
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Now I must admit that my opinion of Fluoride protesters lies close to my opinions on Greens, godbotherers, warmists, carbonisifists and pacifiers, I must give it to Whiskers for his erudite defense of civil liberties.

So helmets are out, as a fascist imposition on the workers, the unfit, the suffering of this nation.

gg
 
gg It is my understanding that Nick Xenophon started out in politics because of his anger about poker machines. He has subsequently become perhaps the Australian politician to whom most would ascribe a value of integrity.

Perhaps you could consider taking a similar path with the cause of bicycle helmets as your motivator?

Whiskers could join you.

I would support you both on the basis of potential freedom from the bloody Nanny State.
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
So helmets are out, as a fascist imposition on the workers, the unfit, the suffering of this nation.

gg
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GG & other supporters of the Right To Bare Heads when cycling - are you aware of this Oz website?

http://www.situp-cycle.com/

Go to the article posted 13 Jan 2011 for an expose on Melbourne's farcical enforced-helmets share bike scheme ( a near total failure).

Some enlightening stuff in that site's blogs....

Cheers,

aj
 
Julia said:
gg It is my understanding that Nick Xenophon started out in politics because of his anger about poker machines. He has subsequently become perhaps the Australian politician to whom most would ascribe a value of integrity.

Perhaps you could consider taking a similar path with the cause of bicycle helmets as your motivator?

Whiskers could join you.

I would support you both on the basis of potential freedom from the bloody Nanny State.
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I shall contact Whiskers to start the "Free" Party.

Thanks Julia.

gg
 
Excellent. I look forward to being a founding member.
You might consider challenging the membership of ASF to come up with an inspiring title for your new party. Not sure "Free" will be evocative enough.:)
 
Aussiejeff said:
Ummm... maybe heart attack? Too much chocolate clogging the plumbing?? Nothing to do with the risk of cycling or not wearing a helmet??? :cool:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/04/19/3196100.htm
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GumbyLearner said:
You could be right Aussiejeff. He might have had a case of the Burt Baskin's. :dunno:
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I see them on a Sunday morning in one of my cafes, sipping hot chocolate and latte, in their lycra and wearing those bloody helmets.

It's a lifestyle thing, people who wear bicycle helmets die earlier.

It is a well known fact.

When was the last time you saw an old bastard wearing lycra, and look at all the old bastards riding bicycles without helmets or lycra around North Ward.

gg
 
GG
People in North Ward would have Carbon fiber composite push bikes equipped with 16 speeds and hand made Nike shoes with GPS, heart rate monitor, person to person intercom, Glow in the dark Lycra suits with an Ambo following them incase some one in a Roller runs over then.
The Strand could end up a scared site with Miden's made of Kevlar pushies.

If the Cluden bar is still open there should be photo's decking the walls in memory of old Charles Hood-Winkle or Francis Symthe -Jones riding their retirement toy.
All ex -bankesters
 
Glen48 said:
GG
People in North Ward would have Carbon fiber composite push bikes equipped with 16 speeds and hand made Nike shoes with GPS, heart rate monitor, person to person intercom, Glow in the dark Lycra suits with an Ambo following them incase some one in a Roller runs over then.
The Strand could end up a scared site with Miden's made of Kevlar pushies.

If the Cluden bar is still open there should be photo's decking the walls in memory of old Charles Hood-Winkle or Francis Symthe -Jones riding their retirement toy.
All ex -bankesters
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Great post Glen48.

The parody version


The un-ripoffed US republican party version
 
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Catchy tune... maybe bankers should have a classification for their mental status like Bi Polar or OCD's eg wearing Bike hell muts, desire to see people suffer, over blown ego's
or a phobia like fear of Rollers driving on the foot path.
They could suffer from Agrophobia and claustrophobia at the same time and get stuck in a doorwayThere motto:

I feel the need to breed
 
Studies show that the more cyclists there are, the less the mortality rate.

Thus there is safety in numbers.

A recent article from the Guardian UK, an anti-libertarian socialist organ, caught my eye. Even the elites now see the need for cyclists to be protected by increasing their numbers.

A major cause of unwillingness to cycle as evidenced by the failure of free bikes in Melbourne and Brisbane, is these bloody omellete helmets, which add little to safety and detract from comfort and aesthetics.

In Amsterdam, one is more likely to be run over by a cyclist sans helmet, than with.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2009/nov/06/cycle-casualties-deaths-statistics

Groups like the CTC are hopeful that the latest casualty figures will be just a blip. There is a well-accepted notion for cycling, known as safety in numbers, which decrees that in general, as the number of cyclists on the roads increases, each rider's chance of being hurt reduces. For example, the average cyclist in Denmark rides over 10 times further than his or her British peer every year but runs only 20% of the risk of being killed.
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Comrades,

Easter is a time of renewal, let us ride forth sans these bloody stupid helmets.

gg
 
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